ATMachine

ATMachine said:

ATMachine said:

ATMachine said:

ATMachine said:

For the cryptographers among you… a SW thought so random, it doesn’t even appear to relate to SW at first.

By way of explanation I should note that this matrix is actually rather interesting, given its apparent subject: clothing as plot. Or rather, costume design as foreshadowing.

As Doc Brown likes to say, the future isn’t written.

An explanation of the labels:

The X-axis represents Luke’s relationship with Vader; namely, is Darth Vader his father (ie, his real father, not Annikin Skywalker) or his elder brother?

The Y-axis represents the nature of Luke’s relationship with Leia: Incestuous, Not Incestuous, or she’s Dead by the end of ROTJ.

As for the various cultural allusions: they’re notes to John Mollo for the middle section of Star Wars, circa 1975.

Due to a printer’s error, the above chart was incorrectly arranged. The people responsible have been sacked.

This is how it should have looked:

Due to a typesetter’s error, a line was left out of the above chart by mistake. The people responsible for sacking the people who have been sacked, have been sacked.

A further corrected version of the chart follows below.

The new row of data, under the Y-axis label LH, refers to the scenario where Leia falls in love with Han Solo (rather than Luke), and the pair survive to the end of the OT.

Additionally, here’s a costume/makeup reference chart in the same vein, for the planned ending c. 1975 of the film that would become ROTJ.

I wish I could’ve held out on buying these as long as you have. I admire your willpower. (It was the deleted scenes that got me to buy them at all – and I still feel guilty about it.)

ATMachine said:

ATMachine said:

ATMachine said:

For the cryptographers among you… a SW thought so random, it doesn’t even appear to relate to SW at first.

By way of explanation I should note that this matrix is actually rather interesting, given its apparent subject: clothing as plot. Or rather, costume design as foreshadowing.

As Doc Brown likes to say, the future isn’t written.

An explanation of the labels:

The X-axis represents Luke’s relationship with Vader; namely, is Darth Vader his father (ie, his real father, not Annikin Skywalker) or his elder brother?

The Y-axis represents the nature of Luke’s relationship with Leia: Incestuous, Not Incestuous, or she’s Dead by the end of ROTJ.

As for the various cultural allusions: they’re notes to John Mollo for the middle section of Star Wars, circa 1975.

Due to a printer’s error, the above chart was incorrectly arranged. The people responsible have been sacked.

This is how it should have looked:

yhwx said:

Lord Haseo said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Lord Haseo said:

“Who’s scruffy looking” exchange wouldn’t work in the present.

That’s 'cause the present sucks.

It’s sad that that’s not even really debatable.

Fast forward 40 years:

Person 1 — That’s because the present sucks.

Person 2 — It’s sad that that’s not even really debatable.

SilverWook said:

This is supposed to be the ROTS Tarkin makeup test, and it looks better than what was in the movie!

That actually looks pretty damn good. Only problem is that he looks just as old as Tarkin in STAR WARS.

Really? To my eye there’s something wrong. He looks way to week and fragile. Just doesn’t look right to me—almost repulses me.

The problem in both cases is that the makeup is designed to look like Peter Cushing in the original SW film – despite the fact that the ending of ROTS takes place roughly 20 years beforehand. The result is a weirdly uncanny makeup that looks like an old man with dyed brown hair.

A makeup that made the actor look like Cushing circa Horror of Dracula would have been much better suited.

And yes, I agree that late 20th-century films did aging makeups much better than today’s movies. Strange.

TV’s Frink said:

ATMachine said:

ATMachine said:

ATMachine said:

For the cryptographers among you… a SW thought so random, it doesn’t even appear to relate to SW at first.

By way of explanation I should note that this matrix is actually rather interesting, given its apparent subject: clothing as plot. Or rather, costume design as foreshadowing.

As Doc Brown likes to say, the future isn’t written.

An explanation of the labels:

The X-axis represents Luke’s relationship with Vader; namely, is Darth Vader his father (ie, his real father, not Annikin Skywalker) or his elder brother?

The Y-axis represents the nature of Luke’s relationship with Leia: Incestuous, Not Incestuous, or she’s Dead by the end of ROTJ.

As for the various cultural allusions: they’re notes to John Mollo for the middle section of Star Wars, circa 1975.

You ok my friend?

Fine, I’m fine.

I didn’t realize Yoda was a follower of the battlefield tactics of General Westmoreland.

Also: watching the Celebration 2016 footage, I’m reminded that Warwick Davis’ character in TPM was named Wald after the German for “forest.” Because the willow submits to the wind until it becomes many willows.

ATMachine said:

ATMachine said:

For the cryptographers among you… a SW thought so random, it doesn’t even appear to relate to SW at first.

By way of explanation I should note that this matrix is actually rather interesting, given its apparent subject: clothing as plot. Or rather, costume design as foreshadowing.

As Doc Brown likes to say, the future isn’t written.

An explanation of the labels:

The X-axis represents Luke’s relationship with Vader; namely, is Darth Vader his father (ie, his real father, not Annikin Skywalker) or his elder brother?

The Y-axis represents the nature of Luke’s relationship with Leia: Incestuous, Not Incestuous, or she’s Dead by the end of ROTJ.

As for the various cultural allusions: they’re notes to John Mollo for the middle section of Star Wars, circa 1975.

Because I double posted accidentally, here’s another random SW thought:

I like how the lightsaber props used for filming TFA are basically the same as the Master Replicas glowy sabers.

Cassian Andor: Kyle Katarn::
Dash Rendar: Han Solo

Speaking of SW conundra: the SDCC plushies this year seem to be really channeling the spirit of Deuteronomy.

ATMachine said:

For the cryptographers among you… a SW thought so random, it doesn’t even appear to relate to SW at first.

By way of explanation I should note that this matrix is actually rather interesting, given its apparent subject: clothing as plot. Or rather, costume design as foreshadowing.

As Doc Brown likes to say, the future isn’t written.

For the cryptographers among you… a SW thought so random, it doesn’t even appear to relate to SW at first.

Bingowings said:

Trooperman37 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

But no, GL just had to replace the voice. It was so incredibly important and necessary!!!

They’re his movies and he can do what he wants to with them.

(crosses arms stubbornly)

So if I buy the declaration of Independence I can eat it the fourth of July?

That’s capitalism, baby. Welcome to Nixonland America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavus_Adolphus_of_Sweden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Holst

No, the Swedish monarch! Of course I’m talking about Gustav Holst.

Who’s afraid of Gustav Holst?

As much as I dislike the idea of a prequel exploring Palpatine’s backstory, I do like the idea of him being shown as a person rather than some devilish sorcerer who came out of nowhere, and had no reason whatsoever for his desires for conquest.

As Tolkien puts it in LOTR: “For nothing was evil in the beginning. Even Sauron was not so.”

DominicCobb said:

yhwx said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usXca7W_jvM

Thanks, though it’s too bad whoever edited that video used wipes too. Confusing.

Don’t feel like counting but it must be close to 40 or so. I think TFA had like 10.

Yeah, it kind of undermines the whole point of such a montage.

In other news: Gillian Anderson dresses her dog as Chewbacca and has it lick almond butter off her face. For charity.

(and I thought I had issues…)

Well, it’s true! Liam Neeson’s character was Dooku’s apprentice.

Also, the oddest thing going on with Leia in TFA is her Gary Oldman Dracula hairstyle.

People like you are no fun.

Tobar said:

In addition to Whitaker’s reveal. We also now have a full character list. THANKFULLY, they’re not the incredibly stupid names that have seemingly become the norm the last few years:

• Captain Cassian Andor
• Chirrut Imwe
• Baze Malbus
• K-2SO
• Bodhi Rook
• Galen Erso
• Director Orson Krennic

This film is really shaping up.

So Not-Jan Ors and Prince Caspian team up with Cheroot the stoned hippie “spiritual warrior” to fight the evil Director Orson Welles?

I’d watch it.

To make plainer the idea behind the earlier posts:

Maybe one of George Lucas’ private “experimental films” was actually a remake of the 1974 draft of The Star Wars, filmed circa 1997, with Gillian Anderson as Princess Leia?

And if so, did GL hire somebody to improve the dialogue from the initial script?

From March 1997 (one month after the Rolling Stone photoshoot above):

nudge nudge wink wink

And another cover from January 1997:

(“The princess’ uncle, ruler of Ophuchi, rewards the bureaucrats, who for the first time see the princess revealed as her true goddess-like self.”)

(“Turning and turning in the widening gyre / The falcon cannot hear the falconer…”)

(“Look, Your Worshipfulness, let’s get one thing straight. I take orders from just one person: me.”)

Anyways: these magazine covers reminds me of the days when George Lucas wasn’t yet a laughing stock.

Presented for your consideration: a picture of Gillian Anderson re-enacting the movie Creature from the Black Lagoon, featured on the February 1997 cover of Rolling Stone.

Only… there may be more to this than meets the eye.

If you recall the 1974 rough draft of The Star Wars, sixteen-year-old Princess Leia Aquilae had red (well, auburn) hair:

The princess, her long auburn hair tied in braids, moves to the general and he bows before her.

GENERAL
May your studies do you honor.

Leia is somewhat embarrassed by the general’s formality and can only manage an awkward smile before returning to her parents at the speeder.

Same shade, more or less, as Gillian Anderson’s hair in the 1990s, seen above.

But that’s not all - in the 1974 draft, the character of “Han Solo” (really more of a Chewbacca sidekick figure) was "a huge, green skinned monster with no nose and large gills". This heroic alien with the familiar name was a “Ureallian”… who just happened to look like a long-lost cousin to the Creature from the Black Lagoon.

However, others of Han Solo’s species weren’t nearly as nice. Later in the script, when the heroes crash-land on the jungle world of Yavin, a band of nine Ureallian trappers capture (and by implication gang-rape) Leia:

Two of the trappers yell at one another in a friendly argument. One shirtless creature goes into a “crawler,” and the remaining eight laugh hysterically. Starkiller moves further out on the limb to get a better view. A couple of pieces of bark break loose, and float a hundred feet to the ground. The trappers fail to notice. Moments later, the shirtless trapper emerges from the crawler with Princess Leia held unconscious and half naked over his head.

So - if this photoshoot is any indication - maybe Gillian Anderson knows a lot more about Star Wars (and The Star Wars) than most people?

After all, her Tumblr account name is “Chewbacca’s Girlfriend”…