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#1348549
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<strong>Empire Strikes Back</strong> - 'Behind The Scenes / Making Of' <strong>images</strong> thread
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Slavicuss said:

ATMachine said:
Looks like Leia’s Hoth hairstyle may have been different originally, with two long dangling plaits instead of a crown braid.

I think she also played a background extra (female rebel soldier). A completely different character to Leia - hence the different hairstyle - and costume.

“And this background extra will be played by Harrison Ford wearing a fake mustache.”

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#1348302
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<strong>Empire Strikes Back</strong> - 'Behind The Scenes / Making Of' <strong>images</strong> thread
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In the photos I posted above George Lucas is meeting with toy executives from Kenner. Gotta get the merchandise out on time, after all! 😉

The eyes on the helmet remind me of the eyes painted on the prow of ancient Greek ships. Would make sense if Boba Fett was originally supposed to kill Han or Leia in Greek tragedy fashion, leaving Luke as “the character who survives Star Wars III”.

(Or maybe Fett could actually be Luke’s lost sister and they get together Game of Thrones-style, with fateful consequences in an Episode IX set 20 years or so later.)

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#1348300
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<strong>Empire Strikes Back</strong> - 'Behind The Scenes / Making Of' <strong>images</strong> thread
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Apparently there were two different designs of the Boba Fett helmet with “eyes”:

The version with lower eyes and pupils evidently came first, followed by a more stylized design placed higher up on the helmet. The Boba Fett Fan Club site has an excellent rundown of the variations.

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#1348279
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<strong>Empire Strikes Back</strong> - 'Behind The Scenes / Making Of' <strong>images</strong> thread
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ZkinandBonez said:

This one’s pretty interesting. Those markings weren’t on the helmet in the finished film so I’m guessing this is from a costume test or something like that.

Back in the day the Boba Fett fandom knew all about how his armor changed color between films, and about various costume tests, both this one and the all-white version. Interesting how that sort of thing gets forgotten generationally.

ZkinandBonez said:

Always fun to see Jim Henson in SW photos.

Indeed. 😄

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#1348133
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<strong>Empire Strikes Back</strong> - 'Behind The Scenes / Making Of' <strong>images</strong> thread
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Looks like Leia’s Hoth hairstyle may have been different originally, with two long dangling plaits instead of a crown braid.

Never seen this concept art for Vader’s meditation sphere before.

Asteroid weaving.

Interesting to see that Luke’s jacket under his flight harness is detailed to be camera-ready.

Frank Oz with an early Yoda design that more resembles the Ralph McQuarrie/Joe Johnston sketches.

Yoda with legs! (The outfit was worn by Deep Roy.)

The “evil tree” became the “evil cave”.

Seems they tried using a puppet Luke head for the cave sequence and it looked obviously fake, so they went with having Mark Hamill stick his head in a diorama.

This droid is ALIVE!

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#1348121
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<strong>Empire Strikes Back</strong> - 'Behind The Scenes / Making Of' <strong>images</strong> thread
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ZkinandBonez said:

Shopping Maul said:

ZkinandBonez said:

BTW, does anyone know why they didn’t build the entire set for some of these shots, like in the photo above? Al the windows are clearly there in some BTS photos, and its really obvious (pre-SE anyway) that all but the central window has been added in post when you watch the actual movie.

I’m assuming that middle shot is from ROTJ? They built the entire bridge for Jedi but only the single window for Empire (as far as I know).

Ah, that makes sense. The person who uploaded all the photos to imgur had it among the ESB photos so I just assumed it was from that movie.

Still an odd thing to do though. I can’t imagine adding a few more windows would have cost them much, seems more like the kind of budget cut you’d do for a TV series not a big blockbuster movie.

Apparently there was a concern that Ralph McQuarrie’s bridge design with the different sizes and angles of the windows might be too expensive to build. Some of Joe Johnston’s ESB storyboards show a simplified version with rectangular windows instead. I guess they compromised by choosing McQuarrie’s design but executing it mostly via matte paintings.

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#1347544
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Best Performance in the Original Trilogy
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But as Alan Arnold pointed out, he was well enough to attend protests at 10 Downing Street against a tax that would raise the price of cinema tickets.

If Guinness ever enjoyed working on SW, that time surely passed when Lucas decided to kill off Obi-Wan. It does seem like Guinness regarded that change as an unforgivable betrayal. It almost certainly offended his sense of professionalism, and I don’t think his attitude to the series and to Lucas ever really recovered from that.

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#1342825
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Small details that took you <em><strong>FOREVER</strong></em> to notice in the <em>Star Wars</em> films
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NeverarGreat said:

ATMachine said:

That’s not a compositing error. That TIE is flying from the foreground into the background, in an opposite directon to the Falcon.

Shouldn’t they still be behind the Falcon though, based on their size? They’re clearly too small to be in front of the Falcon.

If you watch the shot in motion, they start out much larger in the foreground and head backwards into the distance as the Falcon approaches from the opposite direction. I agree that the scale is a bit wonky, but the composition in terms of relative planes seems fine.

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#1340363
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<strong>Star Wars (1977)</strong> - a General <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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Looks to me like in the second image she’s covering her breasts with her right arm (which is bent at the elbow accordingly) and holding a blaster in her left hand. Though I guess it could also be the top of her dress, with her right arm held behind Luke’s back.

But the first sketch does look like Leia is topless: her skin tone is drawn slightly darker than the loincloth she’s wearing. And in the third image her left breast has popped out of her shirt while she’s being tortured (you can see the line where the fabric has slipped under her bust).

Also: this sort of thing is probably the real reason why Lucas thought Leia wouldn’t wear a bra under that dress.