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#238032
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General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238032/action/topic#238032
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Bleh, Sorceror's Stone. I hate that. I never call it that.

But it's always made me wonder. Did the movie have two separate takes whenever the stone was mentioned, and Sorceror's Stone was used in U.S. and Philosopher's Stone in the U.K., or was it Sorceror's Stone in both countries for the movie?


Separate takes for all the Philosopher's Stone lines. You can actually buy Philosophers Stone on NTSC DVD from Canada. Or PAL in the UK.
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#238026
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Info: article on censoring Tom And Jerry
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238026/action/topic#238026
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The pussification of America continues ...

I am a cartoon junkie, and they never once made me want to smoke. I never said "Hey mom, if Andy Capp smokes, why can't I?"

If they're going to re-edit smoking from cartoons, then they should also ban the Swedish Chef from spreading real butter on his toast. After all, both are responsible for rampant heart disease.

The notion of revising history does nothing to keep the next generation from repeating it. If they're so damn concerned that Jerry puffing a last cigarette will encourage kids to smoke, maybe the parents should spend more time with their kids instead of plopping them in front of the TV. And maybe MGM should run an anti-smoking PSA where they show a good lung and a tar-filled lung before the cartoons.
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#237632
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General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237632/action/topic#237632
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Originally posted by: Lord Phillock

what do you mean? I was just stating that having the "Batman" name before "The Dark Knight" hence "Batman: The Dark Knight"
would have a compatibility to the previous "Batman Begins"... is that so hard to understand?

It works for me, and it's easier to alphabetize in the catalogue.
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#236787
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General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236787/action/topic#236787
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I understood Ra's Al Ghul to be his title, not his name. I also understood him to be of British origin. But again, my comic experience is very limited.

On the subect of church desecration, it's a question of intent. After all, it was just a set, not a real church anyway. But the point is, they chose to film a pointless scene of Batman desecrating a sanctuary before climbing the bell tower for the actual fight. That's what I had the problem with then and now. It was the intent behind it that I think was less than noble, both to the story and to Christians. I'm no Bible-thumper by a LONG shot, but this always got under my skin.
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#236214
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General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236214/action/topic#236214
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Just out of curiosity, what problems did you have with The Penguin and the rest of the Burton movies aside from Catwoman?
The more time that passes from Burton's universe, the more it seems like the Adam West era. Schumaker's goes without saying as that was a deliberate attempt to return the films to their 60s camp, but Burtons films, which were supposed to be different, feel more and more like the 60s as time goes on. But that's just me. My specific issues:

* Keaton never completely sold me as being Batman. If Burton wanted to cast a Beetlejuice alumnus, he should've cast Alec Baldwin.
* Vicky Vale, who won The Pulitzer with photos of charred bodies on the front lines war, reduced herself to screaming at every turn throughout the second half of "Batman." Not only was it annoying, it was so wrong for her character.
* The fact that "Batman" should have been called "The Joker" instead due to overdeveloping the villain and underdeveloping the hero.
* The pointless desecration of a church for the finale of "Batman" was an anti-Christian vibe I picked up on from the first viewing. If you're going to desecrate a church in the name of art, at least make it a relevant plot point. I can deal with Hudson Hawk desecrating the Vatican just fine -- it is germane to the plot.
* The ham-fisted loss of Vicky Vale in the second film, and of Catwoman in the third film. These set up important character development arcs that were just flushed away for the sake of getting a fresh face.
* Missile-toting Assassin Penguins!
* The droning circus freak chick's countdown to Armageddon.
* Society muckety-mucks leaving their kids unattended at home on Christmas Eve. Apparently Gotham has no babysitters.

There is still a lot that was good in both films, but these were major flaws that kept me from ever truly loving and embracing them. And I LOVE Tim Burton flicks.

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
(well, I honestly haven't seen Begins yet)

Make this your first order of business. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Go straight to the video store and rent this film.

I actually got rid of all my Burton/Schumaker DVDs after seeing this film.
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#235864
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General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235864/action/topic#235864
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In the Burton/Schumaker films, the Catwoman story is really the only one that was filmed with taste and an appreciation of the craft. Not being a comic book guy, I don't know how far that strayed from the source, but I always liked how it was handled on film. The Penguin's treatment kinda ruined that film, but the entire Catwoman plot has made it my favorite of the films in that era.

However, the entire series became dead to me after Batman Begins. Nolan made me finally able to forget four films that were all too damn imperfect and replace them with something no less than perfect. I positively can't wait for TDK, though if Phillipe joins, I may return to my usual skepticism.