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- #93429
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- Arthur Miller 1915-2005
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- #92978
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- Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92978/action/topic#92978
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- #92669
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- Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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But, man, you can do wipes like Kevin Smith did in Dogma with NO problem.

In short, the product needs two enhancements:
1) soft edge controls on its transitions
2) not downmixing multi-channel audio when they're mixed.
That said, it does have the ability to handle two audio sources with some decent control on volume and fading. The intent is to let you place an original audio source (say, the direct audio from a handheld camera's mic) and then place and control background music in the second layer. The two layers get mixed together in the export process. On the whole, this is a great feature and allows for better crossfading when manipulating stereo sources. But if any crossfading or volume changes happen in a 5.1 file, it downmixes it. That's is main audio drawback. Oh, and I think if you downmix to PCM it actually converts it to Mono. I found that out after messing with a different film.
If you're editing together home movies, this program is a dream. For some of the more professional touches we're trying to accomplish on these (or other) "real" films, the product needs some more development.
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- #92641
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- Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92641/action/topic#92641
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Its audio tools are worse though. You definitely have to have the same audio bitrate and you cannot do any crossfading, else it will downmix to stereo and force output to PCM or Layer I or II. But if you're only splicing as I have, then it manages to just splice the audio without changing type or, from what I can tell, recompressing. If the audio splice doesn't sound good where the video splice is, I've found that sometimes the audio splice point can be moved one direction or the other. It's a creative change, but if it makes a better transition, so be it. I ended up needing to do this both at the Dewback removal and the Jabba removal specifically. On the latter, Kenobi's dialogue would have been trimmed, which would not be good.
This isn't a great edit in the end, but it isn't bad either. Feedback on the finished product from you all is what I'm looking forward to most of all. (At least I'm not claiming I've made the best version of Star Wars ever!

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- #92542
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- Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92542/action/topic#92542
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- #92544
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- What would you like to see in a scifi/fantasy web site? The time has come for a change...
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On a completely different note, I have something to recommend AVOIDING as you try to monetize the site. Popups. Even some -- ne, most -- of the good entertainment sites have succumbed to this temptation. I strongly recommend against it. While banner blindness remains a problem that can't be ignored, pop-up blocking is on the rise because pop ups are more annoying and more intrusive than banner ads ever were. Interstitials are almost as bad. Anything that gets in the way of being able to actually read the content is detrimental to building a loyal user base.
As I've said in the past, I recommend judicious placement of ads and links to other sites who share a cut of any proceeds with the referrer. Then, it's a matter of placing appropriate ads. There is a lot of SW-related stuff (esp. on eBay and Amazon) to which you can link, which speaks to the audience here. If we users can discipline ourselves to use this site as a click-through to these other sites, then revenue can be generated for the site just from our regular online buying habits. Seriously, if a link to Amazon guarantees a cut of the proceeds from a subsequent purchase, I'd be sure to not enter the URL directly and always go through a site I cared enough about. This merits more research as I don't fully understand the terms of these deals. But I do know that many sites have placed ads to several of the major online sites with such affiliate programs in place.
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- #92439
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- Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92439/action/topic#92439
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- #92443
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- Blinded by Star Wars
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92443/action/topic#92443
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- #92401
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- Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92401/action/topic#92401
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I've done decent attempt at de-SEing ANH now and think I may release this as a precursor to my ultimate project. Sadly, the precursor might end up being more popular as it lops out more SE stuff than I want to for my version. Not every element can be excised, but a lot can just by lopping out extensions here and there. Here's what I've taken out/fixed:
1) An attempt at fixing the title card. Using the Spanish angle, I grabbed that version of the title card, then did a video crossfade when the crawl begins (early) to help mask the frame jump as best as possible with my limited resources and experience. On the whole I think it looks decent. Not perfect, but an improvement to be certain.
2) The extended dewback sequence. Hard cut from the sand crawler to the shot with the dewback(s) in the background. I don't have the ability to do soft wipes, and the hard wipes look worse than a hard cut. So be it. I intend to keep this shot in the long run, but I wanted to really take a stab at DE-SE'ing the DVD as much as possible tonight.
3) Mos Eisley. Hard cut from the drive into the city to the scene where they get "pulled over." Technically, losing the Ronto does lose some of the OT footage, as the Ronto was superimposed into the existing shot. To get rid of this, the entire thing needed to be killed. There are still other CG additions to the mind trick scene and cantina exterior, but this still removes most of the mos eisley sequence that's so offensive to so many.
4) Greedo's shot. It's gone. No explanation necessary.
5) Jabba. Though I intend to keep him in my ultimate version (with an automatic skip feature built in), I know a lot of people hate this sequence, so this one's being done for you guys on this particular version. I did a video fade between the surrounding edit points to try to mimic the original fade at this point. Hopefully it will suffice.
6) Biggs. I intend to keep him in the long run as well, but if this was an attempt to de-SE the DVD as much as possible, he had to go too in all fairness.
That's it, really. Battle of Yavin is untouched as I don't have any appropriate way to restore shots there. I still haven't the ability to fix Luke's green saber, which has bothered me more than anything other than Greedo shooting first from the day this DVD was put on sale. Hell or high water, I intend to fix it or bribe one of you to help get that fixed, but am in a holding pattern right now.
Stay tuned.
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- #91933
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- Greetings from Wookie Groomer; Split Screen Project (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91933/action/topic#91933
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- #91952
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- Forget bluray and hd-dvd, check out hvd
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91952/action/topic#91952
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- #91950
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- ROTS Pictures (SPOILERS!!!!)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91950/action/topic#91950
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- #91842
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- The Theatrical Differences
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91842/action/topic#91842
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I now need to pull out the DVD to see if the stereo track has one set of changes while the surround has the opposing set of changes.
Edit: Nope. The DVD has "We've Stopped" and "Close the Blast Doors" in both tracks.
Now THAT would be a cool feature. The (relative) sound mix of each version as a selectable option. Mono, stereo or surround with the corresponding differences. Video option of the true original crawl.
MBJ, Zion, you guys listening?

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- #91841
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- State of the Union
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91841/action/topic#91841
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The vast majority of the talking heads on the regular networks, news networks, local channels, magazines, newspapers and Internet blog sites means that while free speech is alive and well, what is being said is getting diluted and twisted more and more. The proof is in the pudding: The accuracy of polls and pundit's predictions is growing more and more askew as time passes. Therefore, I don't put as much stock in what they have to say. For every truly informed and balanced talking head like Russert, there are dozens of O'Reillys and Carlsons and Kinsley's who are throwing darts.
Keep in mind that very few of these schmucks even studied political science. Most of them studied journalism (or it's bastard step-child "broadcast journalism"), which is little more than a specialization in language skills. Not that a certain failed Texas oil baron studied much of anything, but he has been given the authority to do more than just talk. He has been given the authority to ramrod an agenda. Fortunately in our form of government, checks and balances were created to keep him from turning agenda into law by his will alone. Therefore, when he goes before Congress, his cabinet, the judiciary and the nation as a whole to set his agenda, it is the duty of citizens to pay attention and hold him accountable. We do that by voicing our own opinions in forums where a difference can be made, and by influencing our other elected officials who can stop such an agenda if it doesn't agree with the will of the masses.
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- #91830
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- State of the Union
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91830/action/topic#91830
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All this said, the State of the Union is perhaps the most important speech for any U.S. citizen to tune in to (to everybody else, I apologize on the country's behalf for pre-empting your prime time shows). Yes, it is carefully penned, but it is far from B.S. It is the one constitutionally mandated speech where the three branches of government convene to hear the President's legislative agenda for the coming year. It illustrates the direction he intends to take the country more than any campaign speech ever will. Furthermore, when you watch, you can see where the opposition party intends to support the agenda, and where the opposition intends to block.
Given that our hard-earned and easily wasted tax dollars are at stake, we should give a damn about them. Furthermore, you should be incited to act based on what the President says. If on any given point you disagree with the President's agenda, it is imperative that you write your Representative and Senators -- even before writing on, say, this forum. After all, Jay may be the Emperor of OriginalTrilogy.com, but he doesn't have any discretion over how tax dollars get alloted. Remember, free speech was intended to petition the government, not just to protect the right to grouse among your friends. People have been doing that -- even in oppressive societies -- for centuries. Washington counts on our apathy to see that things stay as they are. But when people actually get involved, that is what creates change.
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- #91826
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- Ossie Davis, 1917-2005
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91826/action/topic#91826
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- #91825
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- ROTS Pictures (SPOILERS!!!!)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91825/action/topic#91825
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- #91588
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- State of the Union
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91588/action/topic#91588
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- #91462
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- Firefox browser
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91462/action/topic#91462
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But then again, if I had anything related to Girl Scouts on my computer, that would be a bad thing.
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- #91359
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- Beautiful Women
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91359/action/topic#91359
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- #91269
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- Idea -- Original Theatrical Prequels
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91269/action/topic#91269
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- #91258
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- MagnoliaFan Edits: Ep I "Balance Of The Force", and Ep II "The Clone War" (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91258/action/topic#91258
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One point ... the Kaiburr Crystal was actually a plot point for the original Star Wars in an earlier draft. It ended up being central to the plot of "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" which was a novel that came out between Star Wars and Empire. The origin of the Expanded Universe. MF dug this plot device back up, and it made the very end of BOTF so much better, as it gave explanation to what this Crystal Ball was that Padme gave to Nass. Hopefully that gives a little more background to where it came from.
Again, welcome to the boards. Look forward to your participation.
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- #91294
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- Beautiful Women
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91294/action/topic#91294
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- #91292
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- Firefox browser
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91292/action/topic#91292
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- #91107
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- Firefox browser
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91107/action/topic#91107
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