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#1345410
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Return of the Jedi (My saga edit - V1 Released - <em>V2 in development</em>)
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Not just on that scene.

Your added colors and effects are great!

But the untouched elements from the new masters just look grey and dull to me. It looks like gamma is off or something.
I wonder if they mastered this to something other than BT.709…

You improved it a bit but it’s still too dark in general.
It’s perfect on the Admiral Ackbar scene. So go for that look.
But it’s awful on the first Luke image. He’s brown over a gray background…

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#1327382
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Enter the Dragon
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I played a bit with this movie and it can be improved by some scene reordering and trimming of Roper and Williams.
Basically:

  • Open with Roper and Williams flashbacks
  • Tighten pacing on Lee’s fight, abbot scene, recruitment.
  • Tighten boat sequence to get them all to the island quick.
  • Add deleted scenes to show Lee as a master (show his book)
  • On the island, tighten dinner scene around Lee
  • Only one night passes (condense all action to one night)
  • All tournament sequences happen the following morning/day, trim Roper and Williams fights.

Just putting this here because it works reasonably well and fits the existing footage.

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#1321524
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Return of the Jedi (My saga edit - V1 Released - <em>V2 in development</em>)
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I agree that ROTJ needs visual intensity. So anything done in that regard is good.
May I suggest adding some fog elements ?
There’s some decent green screen fog/dust footage that you could use for Endor. Perhaps alternate between sunlight and fog to show different places ?
As it is we get the impression that it was all filmed in the same small stretch of forest…

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#1321164
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Return of the Jedi (My saga edit - V1 Released - <em>V2 in development</em>)
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Not sure Added Lucrehulk, Hammerhead and U-wing to a couple of shots during the battle. They are from YouTube’s green screen, so I’ll keep them if they are at least bearable.

In the background and slightly blurred the should look fine. Try the fan film “Battle of the Dreadnoughts” for some extra battle footage…

Not sure Added a couple of shots from deleted scenes (probably the rebels firing from the Falcon’s turrets).

Yes, because those guys are seen behind Lando and then disappear. And if I’m not mistaken one of the dudes is seen on TROS firing the turret 😉

(I’d also recommend you add some of the bunker action, to make up for the trimmed Ewok action)

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#1320182
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&quot;Champions of the Force&quot;; Snooker's Attack of the Clones edit
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About the Obi/Mace scene and the theatrical version with Obi/Mace/Yoda do we really need it in the movie ?
We have a previous Jedi council scene where they assign the Kamino mission, and there should be some urgency to this.
It’s odd having Obi-Wan speaking to Mace in a relaxed manner when he needs to pursue the Bounty Hunter.
So I’d just cut this scene out.

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#1319911
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Original Trilogy &quot;Faces&quot; LD Preservation &amp; Upscale project
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Just to add that the colorspace on those LDs is different from what’s used today on most devices (sRGB).

In fact, there are 3 NTSC color spaces, with the older ones having more information than sRGB:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_spaces_with_RGB_primaries#Specifications_with_RGB_Primaries

And those LDs might even use the older (pre 1987) NTSC primaries ( https://www.saji8k.com/displays/color-space/ntsc-1953/ ), that give a larger color space than sRGB.

This is technical, but something to take into account if you are interested in preserving the original color timing.
You need to convert the colorspace to get that.

A quick conversion of the stills posted above to sRGB gives me this:

No clue on how to do it for a video file…

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#1319565
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Return of the Jedi (My saga edit - V1 Released - <em>V2 in development</em>)
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I’ll explain better later, but you can check AOTC for good examples of digital zooming and panning 😁

OK here’s a good example of what I’m talking about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mDyGc68hpM

All the zooms and most of the pans on that video are digital. That is, they were added in editing to create dynamic and better framing. You can do the same with Jedi’s mostly static effect shots. Just don’t go crazy with it, zoom only up to 105%, it doesn’t need much.

(if you like the video please subscribe to the channel - it’s mine 😉 and it really needs a boost 😉 )

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#1319480
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Return of the Jedi (My saga edit - V1 Released - <em>V2 in development</em>)
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Subtle but good color correction 😉

The second image shows how uninspired ROTJ can be. Just look at that framing, with half the image showing… trees.
One think you can do to improve this is to crop and reframe shots, adding some minor camera movement or zoom.
Lucas does the same on the prequels so it’s fair game I think!

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#1319443
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Star Wars - The Lost Cut is not exactly what you think it is....
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Good work on the shoot out!
For the the main problem remaining in your version is that we hear those arms grabbing the Tantive, but on the exterior shot the ship is still being pulled.
Perhaps you can use some Rogue One footage to make up for the missing footage ?
There’s a shot from the Destroyer towards the Tantive that might work.

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#1319319
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Return of the Jedi (My saga edit - V1 Released - <em>V2 in development</em>)
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About new mattes, the problem is that new art is mostly CGI and it doesn’t match with the rest.
If we had replacement paintings (could be based on CGI elements, but with the style needs to be hand painted) it might work.

Yet I’ve also looked everywhere for better backgrounds but there aren’t any…

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#1318785
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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SparkySywer said:
Frankly I don’t think TLJ contradicts TFA, it’s really only TLJ and TRoS that cause issues with each other.

Strongly disagree here.
The characters are not the same between TLJ and the other two. It’s like we are seeing alternate universes…

Let’s consider Luke’s sabre. If you go with TLJ take on the universe, the sabre is not important.
But it’s central to TFA and very important in TROS. That’s a contradiction to me 😉

This is not about liking TJL or not. I don’t, but I’d still love to see a ST redux expanding on it’s themes 😃

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#1318290
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&quot;Champions of the Force&quot;; Snooker's Attack of the Clones edit
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SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

4throck said:

Geonosis is also poorly edited with many out of sequence scenes.

Could you elaborate on what is specifically out of sequence? I don’t recall anything out of sequence continuity wise…Or are you referring to overall tone?

The most noticeable part is Mace’s entrance.
It’s possible to tighten it and the interaction with Jango, Doku & Mace.
Here’s my version: https://streamable.com/tqa5n
Just sharing because it explains better what I mean, I don’t wish to hijack the thread.
My point is just that Geonosis can be improved 😉

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#1318051
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&quot;Champions of the Force&quot;; Snooker's Attack of the Clones edit
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If I may, I suggest you start by tackling the pursuit/disco scene and the Geonosis arena fight.
For me those are the most challenging sequences regarding action sequence tone. Geonosis is also poorly edited with many out of sequence scenes. I think that if you succeed in getting them right, the rest of the edit will go smoothly.

Are you considering story changes or sequence reorder ?
I have some suggestions based on things I’ve tried and work well, but don’t want to steal your thread 😉