What is your personal canon? — Page 3

Tyrphanax said:

DominicCobb said:

The concept of personal canon is such a weird and intangible thing to me. Do you guys really see all these things fit together when you consume these movies/TV shows/comics/etc.? Or is it just simply you compiling what bits of Star Wars content you like and think are worthy of existing (for lack of a better term)? Or is it picking the things you think make sense together and should be things that happened in this universe?

Going off the last one is a tricky one. So many of these things contradict each other or are so different in tone/characterization or what have you that it’s hard to put them all in the context of one another. For example, some of my absolute favorite Star Wars content is the original Marvel run of comics (and the Goodwin/Williamson strip), but I find a lot of that very hard to reconcile with the world established in the films. Similarly, as much as I loved the PT as a kid, I’ve spent about the last decade coming to terms with the fact that it just does not fit at all with the OT (fan edits are an effort to fix this, but can they ever really?).

Anyway, point is, hard for me to genuinely come up with a “personal canon” in the typical sense of the world (what I view as the ‘history of the Star Wars universe’). I could list the Star Wars stuff that I like but I don’t know, feel like that’s kind of boring?

May do it later anyway.

I will say I totally understand people with multiple canons. It’s definitely a different experience watching the original film as just a standalone feature in comparison to watching it in the larger context of the OT (on that note, I’ve tried numerous times to watch it in the context of the PT but it just doesn’t work).

Yeah this is kinda what I was trying to convey in my post. I get the idea of a personal canon, because there are a lot of things that are annoyingly officially canon in Star Wars, but it seems weird to be reading a book or something and get to a part where you’re like “Okay that didn’t happen in my canon”

Except Boba Fett. I just assume they killed the kid off between Clones and Empire and a real Mandalorian took over. =P

There is actually a theory about that.

I don’t have one. I’ve never been one to form personal canons, and instead follow along with what the official canon is. It tends to be easier for discussions if we’re all on the same page, and even if I personally dislike a work, if it’s canon to that continuity its existence has to be acknowledged when discussions veer in that direction.

Now, fan theories, speculation & ideas about things not explained in some source, that’s a different matter entirely…

DominicCobb said:

The concept of personal canon is such a weird and intangible thing to me. Do you guys really see all these things fit together when you consume these movies/TV shows/comics/etc.? Or is it just simply you compiling what bits of Star Wars content you like and think are worthy of existing (for lack of a better term)? Or is it picking the things you think make sense together and should be things that happened in this universe?

I’ll take Door #2.

DominicCobb said:

The concept of personal canon is such a weird and intangible thing to me. Do you guys really see all these things fit together when you consume these movies/TV shows/comics/etc.? Or is it just simply you compiling what bits of Star Wars content you like and think are worthy of existing (for lack of a better term)? Or is it picking the things you think make sense together and should be things that happened in this universe?

Going off the last one is a tricky one. So many of these things contradict each other or are so different in tone/characterization or what have you that it’s hard to put them all in the context of one another. For example, some of my absolute favorite Star Wars content is the original Marvel run of comics (and the Goodwin/Williamson strip), but I find a lot of that very hard to reconcile with the world established in the films. Similarly, as much as I loved the PT as a kid, I’ve spent about the last decade coming to terms with the fact that it just does not fit at all with the OT (fan edits are an effort to fix this, but can they ever really?).

Anyway, point is, hard for me to genuinely come up with a “personal canon” in the typical sense of the world (what I view as the ‘history of the Star Wars universe’). I could list the Star Wars stuff that I like but I don’t know, feel like that’s kind of boring?

May do it later anyway.

I will say I totally understand people with multiple canons. It’s definitely a different experience watching the original film as just a standalone feature in comparison to watching it in the larger context of the OT (on that note, I’ve tried numerous times to watch it in the context of the PT but it just doesn’t work).

To me personal canon is what you love about it. The things you enjoy and what you think of when you think of Star Wars. It doesn’t have to perfectly agree, that isn’t the point. Also, for something that has grown so big, a personal canon is also what you focus on. I never liked what the expanded universe did after a certain point. I liked Mara Jade and the Skywalker and Solo children, but I didn’t care for the stories. I didn’t really like the Trawn trilogy that much. So my concept of personal canon are the stories I really like. The ones that build the Star Wars universe as I imagine it.

The Star Wars Holiday Special.

Everything else is just EU fan fiction in my mind.

Lord Haseo said:

I can’t speak for everyone else but none of the things in my list conflict with each other and I have omitted stuff like the Thrawn Trilogy because it conflicts with TFA.

Its been a very long time since I read them but how so? I don’t remember anything about them being impossible to go with TFA. It was only like 5 years after rotj whereas tfa was like 20 to 25 or more.

Possessed said:

Lord Haseo said:

I can’t speak for everyone else but none of the things in my list conflict with each other and I have omitted stuff like the Thrawn Trilogy because it conflicts with TFA.

Its been a very long time since I read them but how so? I don’t remember anything about them being impossible to go with TFA. It was only like 5 years after rotj whereas tfa was like 20 to 25 or more.

I could have sworn Jacen and Jana were born (and named) in The Last Command

DominicCobb said:

Yeah I could probably make a list of SW stuff I like that doesn’t totally contradict each other, but then there’s also the matter of believability in the universe. Specifically I’m thinking of Rebels and The Clone Wars.

Well for my timeline the Freedon Nadd/Exar Kun stuff plays a small part in Kotor and it’s sequel. From there it connects to the Revan novel then to SWTOR. The Darth Bane trilogy bleeds into Plagueis and so on and so forth.

There’s stuff in the Clone Wars that I like a lot but on the whole I don’t think Ashoka makes any sense and there are some weird and silly ways they messed with continuity.

How so? That’s an obscure observation regarding Akhsoka.

My canon consists of “I don’t care, I just like good stories.”

My favourite tradegy is the one with the most mispellings.

ZkinandBonez said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Colson said:

My personal canon is actually three separate personal canons.

Canon 1: Star Wars, by itself (original theatrical, of course). This allows for things like Luke and Leia not being related, Vader not being Luke’s father, etc. I like this idea simply because it allows me to enjoy Star Wars as a standalone film with its own separate story. Whereas Empire and Return were explicitly as sequels, Star Wars was its own, independent movie.

Canon 2: The original trilogy in its unaltered state. I consider this trilogy to be its “own thing” in that I consider it to be a story that does and should exist separately from everything else.

Canon 3: The original trilogy in its unaltered state, plus any new Disney movies that might come out. I justify not including the Special Editions/prequels by assuming that the people working on the new movies have a love for the originals similar my own love, so their head canon probably involves the unaltered originals and not the Special Editions.

I like this.

Ditto.

ZkinandBonez said:

HansiG said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Colson said:

My personal canon is actually three separate personal canons.

Canon 1: Star Wars, by itself (original theatrical, of course). This allows for things like Luke and Leia not being related, Vader not being Luke’s father, etc. I like this idea simply because it allows me to enjoy Star Wars as a standalone film with its own separate story. Whereas Empire and Return were explicitly as sequels, Star Wars was its own, independent movie.

Canon 2: The original trilogy in its unaltered state. I consider this trilogy to be its “own thing” in that I consider it to be a story that does and should exist separately from everything else.

Canon 3: The original trilogy in its unaltered state, plus any new Disney movies that might come out. I justify not including the Special Editions/prequels by assuming that the people working on the new movies have a love for the originals similar my own love, so their head canon probably involves the unaltered originals and not the Special Editions.

I like this.

Ditto.

Huh?

Sums up every reasonable reaction to Hansi posts.

Dek Rollins said:

Lord Haseo said:

DominicCobb said:

There’s stuff in the Clone Wars that I like a lot but on the whole I don’t think Ashoka makes any sense and there are some weird and silly ways they messed with continuity.

How so? That’s an obscure observation regarding Akhsoka.

Ahsoka shouldn’t exist. She was contrived for the series, and then conveniently dispatched from the Jedi order, and she is never mentioned in ROTS.

Pretty much yeah.

Also I never much cared for the character. She often undermines Anakin (and other characters) and I don’t think the voice actress is all that good.