STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED ** — Page 19

doubleofive said:
So does the exterior nose, which means some background replacement for the docking bay set instead of replacing every set piece.

And for that reason too 😃

I am, however, very much in favor of seeing a string of thousands of various cargo/construction crafts moving between the Death Star and the moon, which can include the Zeta-class; for there it makes sense and I hope we see it.

I was thinking of this too, but does the current dialog on the Star Destroyer allow for Tydirium to just be one of hundreds they’ve seen today? And would they all have to pass right over the Destroyer and “fly casual”?

I believe the current dialogue can still work, definitely.

Although, and this may be opening a can of space worms here 😉 but if possible, I am hopeful Ady may be able to edit it so now it will be a technician on the DS, instead of on the Executor, who allows the heroes through the shield (like how it was established at the beginning)?

NeverarGreat said:
It would be cool to see dozens of shuttles milling about the Death Star, but since the moon only contains the shield generator and this is operational, there shouldn’t be many craft traveling that way.

It makes me very curious, then, where and how is the Empire quickly and secretly getting all of their parts from if it weren’t from the moon? That’s why I am thinking, if Ady can and wanted to, edit the moon to have a huge mining operation there near where the generator is. This way, if the Empire is getting their parts made locally by literally dissecting this isolated moon for the resources to do so, it could help make it seem more believable for the audience how the DS is being built as quickly as it is (since that’s one of the handful of complaints about it) and more believable how the Rebels never found out about it all that while until the Emperor let it be known. There can still be some occasional shuttles coming from other places (there would have to be, if the heroes’ shuttle could at all be legit), but if all of the parts were coming from multiple other systems, instead of predominantly from the moon, I would find it hard to believe that there weren’t plenty of opportunities for Rebel sympathizers to find out and leak the info very early on in the stages. At least that’s why I’m thinking it’d be good to have this whole operation feel as isolated as possible… and so if that were to be, a string of shuttles between the DS and moon, funneled by the tear-drop-shaped shield, could work then 😃

So perhaps Tydirium is in a line of shuttles headed for the Death Star but breaks away for the moon, taking it across the path of the destroyer.

Otherwise I too like this idea!

Sure would make brainstorming easier if we knew exactly how far Ady could and is willing to go for this edit 😄

According to the EU (I know, I know) the gas giant Endor has nine moons. The mining operation could take place on one or more of these moons, and we could see a partially destroyed moon passing in front of Endor prime in one shot. There’s some potential here for striking imagery, ala Avatar:

^ Interesting idea! So they could be moving from moon to moon and so now, at the time of ROTJ, they are making work on the forest moon of Endor. That would be visually cool to see some “skeletal” moons 😃

doubleofive said:

NeverarGreat said:

doubleofive said:

.Mac. said:

The interior of the Sentinel’s cockpit is similar to the Lambda’s anyway (unlike the Zeta), so he wouldn’t have to change anything there.

So does the exterior nose, which means some background replacement for the docking bay set instead of replacing every set piece.

I am, however, very much in favor of seeing a string of thousands of various cargo/construction crafts moving between the Death Star and the moon, which can include the Zeta-class; for there it makes sense and I hope we see it.

I was thinking of this too, but does the current dialog on the Star Destroyer allow for Tydirium to just be one of hundreds they’ve seen today? And would they all have to pass right over the Destroyer and “fly casual”?

It would be cool to see dozens of shuttles milling about the Death Star, but since the moon only contains the shield generator and this is operational, there shouldn’t be many craft traveling that way. So perhaps Tydirium is in a line of shuttles headed for the Death Star but breaks away for the moon, taking it across the path of the destroyer.

“Where is that shuttle going?” Could work!

That idea makes a good amount of sense. There should be ALOT of activity for building another death star quickly “out in the middle of no where.” I agree too that Vader’s line would fit nicely still without having to alter any dialogue.

doubleofive said:

Thanks to him and ImageShack, the mockups are mostly gone, but the list is just private if I had the momentum to clean it up.

Now hosting all the images on the Wordpress, we’re back up.

https://doubleofive.wordpress.com/rotj-fanedit-wishlist/

I always thought they should land on endor at night it makes sense because would do a raid in the middle of the day you would think having the cover of night would be beneficial, I mean they didn’t even know there was a back door untIL the ewoks told them…when they got to the bunker.

Axe the ewoks Hans team is on a time crunch, no time to hang out all night in care bear land. And what did the other troops do while our hero’s were at the village anyway?

Jedit
Another benefit to it being dark is being able to see endor prime and the ds2 in the sky, like when they’re standing outside at gunpoint maybe they can see the space battle above even the ds2 popping off shots making it even more dramatic…!!!
I’ve even thought about taking chewie out of the bunker, in the deleted scenes Han call s for chewie a lot. I would like to think chewie senses it’s a trap and seeks off and comma deers the atst.

That’s how they get free from being captured. Chewie just starts blasting away at them from out of nowhere.

Never would have noticed the problem until you pointed it out, and now it’s all I can see. Thanks.

doubleofive said:

NeverarGreat said:

doubleofive said:

.Mac. said:

The interior of the Sentinel’s cockpit is similar to the Lambda’s anyway (unlike the Zeta), so he wouldn’t have to change anything there.

So does the exterior nose, which means some background replacement for the docking bay set instead of replacing every set piece.

I am, however, very much in favor of seeing a string of thousands of various cargo/construction crafts moving between the Death Star and the moon, which can include the Zeta-class; for there it makes sense and I hope we see it.

I was thinking of this too, but does the current dialog on the Star Destroyer allow for Tydirium to just be one of hundreds they’ve seen today? And would they all have to pass right over the Destroyer and “fly casual”?

It would be cool to see dozens of shuttles milling about the Death Star, but since the moon only contains the shield generator and this is operational, there shouldn’t be many craft traveling that way. So perhaps Tydirium is in a line of shuttles headed for the Death Star but breaks away for the moon, taking it across the path of the destroyer.

“Where is that shuttle going?” Could work!

Definitely like that idea A LOT.

Han’s piloting skills to try and break for the moon by ‘flying casual’ would make that a bigger punchline.

I love that image of the Rebel Briefing Room looking at the ceiling to see Sullust and other Rebel fleet outside. Love the camouflaged Stormtroopers as well. That would be a mammoth task though, wouldn’t it?

Another suggestion: wouldn’t it be cool to show establishing footage of the Forest Moon as the shuttle Tydirium enters its atmosphere. Maybe hire a helicopter and shoot some footage of the Redwood Forest in California then simply insert all the necessary props etc. Sounds expensive what with hiring a helicopter and pilot though, huh?

Tobar said:

Helicopter? We live in the age of the drone.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 👍

Tobar said:

Helicopter? We live in the age of the drone.

Oh nice! Yeah I’d strongly encourage the use of a drone for the unit shooting in the Redwoods.

.Mac. said:

Tobar said:

Helicopter? We live in the age of the drone.

Oh nice! Yeah I’d strongly encourage the use of a drone for the unit shooting in the Redwoods.

That was awesome indeed. Now, all we need is somebody who has a keen eye like Roger Deakins. 😉

nhoj3 said:

First time trying to post an image, so please forgive me if it takes a few attempts. I found this concept art for DS1 (Episode III) that I found interesting. I thought that visually it was different enough to separate itself from DS1 (as seen in Episode IV) while still eventually being in the same class of super weapon. Being in an early stage it also helps quell the argument that the Empire couldn’t have built it in the allotted time.

I’m not sure if there’s appetite to replace the iconic DS2 silhouette, but thought that it was at least worth considering.

I think it would be a bad idea to mess with the silhouette, but since we’ve never seen the reverse side of it, there’s a lot of room for creativity there, and that image you posted could still serve as inspiration for additional shots. The DS2 could still be mostly hollow for all we know - only the reactor and the path to it are known to be closed in.

trimboNZ said:

nhoj3 said:

First time trying to post an image, so please forgive me if it takes a few attempts. I found this concept art for DS1 (Episode III) that I found interesting. I thought that visually it was different enough to separate itself from DS1 (as seen in Episode IV) while still eventually being in the same class of super weapon. Being in an early stage it also helps quell the argument that the Empire couldn’t have built it in the allotted time.

I’m not sure if there’s appetite to replace the iconic DS2 silhouette, but thought that it was at least worth considering.

I think it would be a bad idea to mess with the silhouette, but since we’ve never seen the reverse side of it, there’s a lot of room for creativity there, and that image you posted could still serve as inspiration for additional shots. The DS2 could still be mostly hollow for all we know - only the reactor and the path to it are known to be closed in.

Yeah, while I’d say it is a worthwhile suggestion to consider having a less complete version of the Death Star II (or something entirely new besides another DS, for that matter), the one that we know should remain - it is too iconic. I would love to see varying perspectives/sides of the DS, though. But I am very curious, if Ady were to attempt that, how might he go about it? Would this merit the use of CGI? Photoshop? If only one had access to that original model… It still baffles me that the model creators went through the hard work of creating that entire DS and yet all they filmed were shots from, pretty much, just the one angle.