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Return of the Sith -- Revenge of the Jedi by marduk666

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Preface

Ahhhh,  Return of the Jedi. I remember watching this opening day in the theater. I loved Star Wars so much that my father cut short our vacation fishing at the lake to watch it the day it came out. Memories.

As I grew older I just could not seem to enjoy it anymore, corny plans at jabbas palace, Han solo accidentally killing(?) the most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy, Letting Ewoks with spears hold up a desperate mission to destroy the deathstar with the entire rebel fleet on their way! Luke had just killed like three sail barges full of people with no hesitance 15 minutes before.

I don't want to pick it apart too much that steals the magic from it, it's Fantasy/Sci-fi after all, but thems some mighty big plot holes and I cannot quit thinking about them when I watch the damn thing.

Then There's the Prequel Trilogy. Too much to dislike in them so I will use one long word to describe them. "Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"

Then I came across this wonderful forum. Daneditors ROTJ radicle re-edit to be exact, and was inspired to do my own. I have been quietly reading these fourms every day for months and You people here know your sh-t. Thank you.

So now, like many editors before me, I am going to do something about it.

The Plan

Condense the Best/Meaningful/Important parts of I-III into one movie. "Return of the Sith" and re-arrange ROTJ into "Revenge of the Jedi" to be viewed in machete viewing order.

Planned Changes

ROTS

The Focus is on Anakin and his rise and fall.

Droids are now clone droids led by general grevious who has a very minor roll. Clone Troopers will now be Stormtroopers. No Jar Jar, Dooku, or Yoda with Lightsaber. And will remove as many cgi characters and animals as I can this will be an extreme cut but I think I can pull it togeather. Darth Maul may make the cut (HA!) and Jango may be recoloured to be Boba we'll see. My goal for running time is between 1:50 and 2:30. 

ROTJ

The goal of this edit is to remove Cheese and Ewoks. It'll be hard. I will move yoda to the beginning of the movie. Leia acts on Jabbas palace because she has no time and has to reunite with the alliance. after Yodas death Luke feels her in trouble and goes to rescue the whole bunch. Boba will not die, or even be there if I can Help it. The Rebels land on endor at night/predawn. Luke leaves because vader has sensed him. He then Runs into Obi-Wan on his way to Vader. Ewoks are Cut. The Battle of Endor commences. Luke realizes who his sister is during vader fight when Leia gets shot, Celebration/Vader Pyre/Tell Leia the News/More Celebrating. ~fin~

Any tips, advice, help will be needed and greatly appreciated. Thanks

Updated Current Status

1-1-15 Ripped Blu Rays to .m2ts using Movie Rescuer, Started this Topic, Started cutting the fat from the PT using Wondershare Video Editor.

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Are you planning on using Other Boleyn Girl footage to have Padme live through ROTS, or are you trimming Leia's dialogue about her in ROTJ? 

Interesting project. I wonder if machete Star Wars quadrilogy edits would do well to remove the "Episode __" subtitle from the opening crawls. 

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Hal 9000 said:

Are you planning on using Other Boleyn Girl footage to have Padme live through ROTS, or are you trimming Leia's dialogue about her in ROTJ? 

Interesting project. I wonder if machete Star Wars quadrilogy edits would do well to remove the "Episode __" subtitle from the opening crawls. 

first ones tough, I would like to have Padme live, I mean they can make you a new robot hand, but they can't mend a broken heart. Or get a real doctor, or Jedi heal, ya know where ben leans over and puts his hands on her forhead. Or holds her hand, or says comon padme don't leave us.. Noooooooo. Might just have to die and ben rescues the twins...somehow. It'll have to be different.

I can cut leia's dialouge in rotj, it really comes down to how I end rots. The plan is to have her and Lukes conversation to the end of the movie, at vaders funeral pyre. It won't be said outloud she is the one till the very end, even though you will know it for sometime. Not like we don't all know allready. I think it's good storytelling. I really just need it cut from the "Ben Scene. "But that he has a sister will be revealed.

Yes the plan is to have a set with no ""Episode__" subtitle" in the opening crawl.

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TV's Frink said:

I've never heard of that editing program.  Hopefully it's up to snuff.

 I have no idea either. I am a Noob at this. I was getting used to Womble and made an edit of Eastbound and Down, and I liked it very much, but it will not handle the m2ts files, or mkv. So I found this and it does. It handles much like womble so I will know soon enough.  Any suggestions will be appreciated.

And just a crazy question.

     Could a guy somehow take the isolated score and use it to remove the score from ROTJ That way It can be edited with dialouge and effects, then rescored. I understand the answer is probobly no so flame away.

And good news, I recieved permission from Harmy to use despecialized rotj in the project. So thanks Great Harmy.

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I don't think that's possible, at least not totally, or with high quality results.

But if you do work it out you should definitely rescore it with marduk music.  :P

^ Needs to pull the stick out.

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i hope you will add deleted scens in your movie.

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A small update:

So Wondershare Video Editor is not "up to snuff", or even close. So I have moved to power director 13 witch appears to be "up to snuff". I pretty much wasted what editing I had done, but no big deal. At least it was good practice.

A couple questions:

I had read somewhere that there's a fan edit that moves Emperor,Luke and DV to a super star destroyer. Does any one know where to find discussion about that. It is an interesting idea.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get luke his lightsaber without R2 being involved? Maybe Lando ends up with it I don't know. The problem is why he doesn't just go in with the saber. R2 gets through the door with it. Boshh goes through with her staff and a bomb, and a wookie on a leash. Luke goes in knowing he's gonna fight, He chokes two guards Jabba says no bargain and Luke just grabs a gun and tries to shoot jabba, in that crowd. He should have just had that damn saber. It makes no sense at all.

So i'm thinking maybe Bib takes it from him at the door and Lando somehow gets it, or it falls off when he falls in the rancor trap.

Hit me with some ideas people.

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the idea of recoloring Jango to be Boba is something ive actually thoguht about before! it would be very cool... id love to see somebody pull that off.

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So Now That I have been at this a couple weeks I can see that I have my work cut out for me. It's such a big project I find myself jumping around back and forth between the two movies. But I have come up with some good ideas and found some of the problems that still require some stratagy.

In ROTJ I have mainly focused on the Jabba scenes, I think it's gonna  come out pretty rockin tits. Here is a badly punctuated Breakdown of where I am going so far.

New Crawl Explaining Deathstar II Yodas declining health and that the fleet is about to move on the deathstar because they got stolen plans and Leia cannot wait for luke to rendezveux and go in without him.

I would like to have the original opening scene with the star destroyer but cut with the emperors tie parade and landing so that big papa palpy arrives on the death star at the beginning It makes the empire seem a step ahead. and gets the conversation out that he has been in charge of the death star II construction the whole time (perhaps as punishment for not retreiving the plans or shooting down luke, or catching luke) Then he says now I sense you want to continue your search for young skywalker thus setting up Darth tele harassing luke. And I think that since Palpy and Darth's story will be covered in Return of the Sith, Seeing them togeather at the beginning makes sense. Cut to Tatooine.

By Removing the Droids From Going in First..(or at all) I Need to Introduce Jabba a bit So I am using scenes from SE and DeSpec to introduce jabba Starting With the rebo band and Oola Dancing. Interlaced with jabbas dialouge from the boshh scene. it looks like theyre finished, Jabbas Chillin, Oola has a Seat, Jabba gets word from Bib that they found the spy is a dancing girl, He looks at her and says lets see you dance one more time pretty ho ho ho Se cut to her looking confused then she dances jabba says something about knowing shes a spy,  she says im not a tratior or something Bam Rancor trap with some of the SE rancor pit footage in there.

Then Boshh Comes in. With an introduction From Bib So as they did not blast their way in. Jabba Then I use the Jabba Scenes Mixed with the Boshh Scenes to Make it a conversation like Jabba So the mighty chewbacca,......Something from Boshh..........Jabba says not wise to have an unrestraind wooky why don't he just pull your arms off?  She says that he thinks his friends will come and save him. Then Bosh pulls out her little Flashy ball and says and if I die we all die....or something clever..Jabba Laughs Likes it Says well you won't be needing that here, besides he would hate to not live to see chewbacca frozen and hung by his Friend, Solo  -- Cut to Pan to solo from droids intro, just need to matt out Oola, or just use a hard cut to han in carbonite, there are several. Chewie gets taken away. No threepeo - No Boba. Cut to Dagobah.

Luke He has been on Dagobah finishing his training, just completed his lightsaber when he is visited telepathically by vader Prompting him to have an unexpededly fatal conversation with Yoda. (I think yoda just up and dying the way he does is silly like luke doesn't know at all and within two minutes of yoda mentioning it hes dead. It needs to appear that luke knew so I will make an attempt to make it like he does know. He will say there is another skywalker and all that bizz. Cause he could have logically held back info because he didn't know that luke knew that vader was whatever. Because holding important info like that for your last breath is kinda stupid. but wuteva. No ben scene...yet Now back to tatooine

Leia saves han, I'll have to crop or matt threepeeo out. I need some indy lines or other harrison ford lines for when they're dragging him off, like keep your hand's off her or you're making a mistake again, or something. Jabba says Aren't you a spicy taco or something and licks his lips Hard cut to Luke on Dagoba. Probly shot from ben where he says Leia, then shot of him standing outside his xwing then takeoff towards tatooine

You must unlearn what you have learned.

Keep in mind that no one at Jabbas knows anything about Luke Skywalker. So now  is where it gets tricky I want luke to come in pissed. No real plan but asskicking. Chokes the guards and comes through, Bib stops him, hopefully somehow takes his weapon. Maybe subtitle bib to say you must check you weapon with the guard at the door and somehow get it to lando. I was thinking lando is the one who kicks that guard down at the door, then crop to him looking at luke talking and pulling down his mask. Anyway by using scenes from the droids intrance  I can make Bib not look like a Boob and use lukes hologram intro to into himself bib can say he is not a jedi jabba says for luke to shutup and tell him he is not welcome here, and luke mindtricks bib then, to show he is a jedi, lukes second trick fails, so with leia and lando right there Luke flips straight for asskick mode and grabs a gun boom rancor pit. Then everyones togeather.

Bring me Solo and the Wookie.....I will cut the Han Chewie Reunite so I will prob have Han say Chewie and Chewie Gronk when theyre bringing them out.  Cut the threepeeo stuff Jaba explains it, they all speak huttineese.

Cut down Sailbarge scene of Boba Fett and droids Luke gets his Saber from Lando and instantly goes to asskick mode. it happes fast so that you don't get the impression that 30 rough gangster type guys can't shoot a stationary barge or the 4 people on it from 100 ft away all unarmed cept one who can only block shots. Don't have this scene nailed down yet but i'm getting there.

I think that's enough for now but note I plan on heavy subtitle changes and everyone speaking a different language will be subed. Cep't maybe Chewie for continuity.

Thats Enough for now.

Tell me what you think

Also I need Ideas for music for the Rebo band to be playing. Star warsy music.

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Well its been almost 4 months and progress is slow,  but thats the way things roll at the OT. 

I did however see the new battlefield trailor and think i can incorporate it into my battle for endor. I am having trouble getting an hd rip of it. But it could turn out to be the missing piece i need to make it all gel. And since im editing the droids out of the prequil i think i can use the scene of r2 and3po "if they needed our help they would have asked" to get them into the battle. And the deleted scenes where han keeps yelling for chewie to make it seem like chewie is missing. He turns up in the atst to save the day. 

Also does anyone know a way to rip the ep3  dvd deleted scenes. Mine come out with audio in the intros but not during the scenes. Arrrgh

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I had a thought i thought i should share, Would it not be cool if Jerjerrod is killed by Vader?

Here's how it might work Palpy sends Vader to Command ship Cut to ESB landing SE landing Vader gets there just as Tiderian arrives. Tiderian goes to land Vader goes back to deth star 2 and use vader landing cause i cut it earlier. Jerjerrod says welcome were honord by your presence yada yada then cut to delated scene of vader being denied access to  the elevator cuting off sharp with a lightsaber sound and a reverse of the deleted scene of vader in the elevator to come out into the Emporor's Throneroom and then " I thought I told you to remain on the command ship"  I Think it might work

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Here's a rough rough clip of Luke arriving at Jabbas Palace.

The goal is to have Luke Tell Bib who he is so he can introduce him to jabba because the droids along with his hologram are gone in my edit. This is really just to set up the flow. Lots of work to do cropping trimming subs sound efx and music.

comments welcome

https://www.mediafire.com/?ne6wvc29cwx0fd9

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http://www.4shared.com/video/KUFWzHObce/revenge_luke_intrance_rough_1.html

extra rough, I Know.

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What if... All Endor Shots were recolored to night time pre dawn.... even the deathstar exploding almost dark out. 

What if... When Yoda Dies and we skip the ben scene Flows like "I can't do this alone"..."Leia" cut from the Ben Scene" then Cut to Boshh unfrezing Han. Need this so Luke can pre cognate and be on his way arriving early making it clear that they have only been unfrozen/captured for a little while

What if ... Luke talks to 3p0 on the way to tatoine in his x wing 3P0 says The princess Lando and chewbacca never returned from that awful place, or whatever it can become.

What if... when anikin riding a swoop was repourposed to Luke arriving at Jabbas palace.

What if... Luke could be overdubbed to tell bib to "be calm" tell him who he is and what he wants  It works because it would also help if the crowd and jabba aren't asleep when he arrives, Music playing etc. to cover overdubbs.

What if... A photoshop matt magician could make it seem like the rebels are celebrating anywhere but Ewok Village Even just the Hugs and Handshakes. And also the Luke telling leia the Brother Thing Scene.

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I think a way Luke could end up with his saber without R2 could be like so:

Luke arrives, and Bib takes his lightsaber. Luke talks to Jabba, but instead of just reaching for some random blaster, he reaches out and plucks his saber from Bibs belt (maybe use footage from later in film when Luke grabs it from the Emperor, cropped so you can't see the Emperor's hand) and show reaction shot of Jabba surprised or something and hear saber ignition sound. When Jabba dumps Luke into the Rancor pit, show Lando lowering his mask, for Luke to see, and cut to a shot of him with the saber on his belt. Then later at the Sail Barge, when the craziness begins have Luke jump back up, Lando says something like "Skywalker!" and show Luke with his saber.

Not sure how effective this could be, but I think it works.

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Not enough people read the EU.

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Bingowings said:

What if crotchless cyborg spider Darth Maul was bitten by a radioactive spider with only two legs?

Damn, I hope George, Mickey, and JJ didn’t hear that or it will be our episode IX.

But honestly I still dick around with it but nothing turns out well. My biggest problem is the audio watch it with the sound off it makes sense. I have a job in construction not A/V so I have very little exp.

I would like to get this project done before ep IX Secret Star Wars but I will probobly require some help.

As for an update I put a couple shots from the fanfilm THX in. It’s just some troopers spotting the shuttle but it helps. Also now Luke doesn’t leave untill right after the speeder chase. Using the wicket encounter luke tells leia Vader can sense him and leaves. Had to keep the speeder chase because of the Luke breaking scouts neck scene I found on hundsorfx thread. And it gives seperate on for Luke to leave without saying goodbyes to everyone.

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