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Star Wars: Uprising Announce Trailer

^ Trailer for game set between ROTJ and TFA. Probably raises as many questions as it answers about the field of play going into TFA.

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Ryan McAvoy said:

Star Wars: Uprising Announce Trailer

^ Trailer for game set between ROTJ and TFA. Probably raises as many questions as it answers about the field of play going into TFA.

Kind of an interesting idea actually. Seems very political and since it's a mobile game I guess it might be very heavy on the plot as well. However I do doubt that this will have a big impact on the actual movie(s). Abrams and Kasdan seem to have written their own story pretty independently, and these games and other tie-ins will probably follow their story, and not the other way around. It will however be interesting to see how they decide to bridge the gap. 
I also get this feeling that the Empire (or First Order) will have more of a guerrilla army quality to it in both this game and the new movies. The game even seems to suggest a form of Imperial rebellion against the Rebels. It'll be interesting to see in TFA just how much the balance of power have shifted since the OT.

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Ryan McAvoy said:

Star Wars: Uprising Announce Trailer

^ Trailer for game set between ROTJ and TFA. Probably raises as many questions as it answers about the field of play going into TFA.

 This trailer shows the Death Star II blowing up with the ring from the Special Editions.

The SE is still the official canon and all those celebrations shown after the Empire was defeated at Endor that were inserted into RotJ somehow still aren't representative of what actually took place since we're getting sequels set 30+ years later.

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pablumatic said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Star Wars: Uprising Announce Trailer

^ Trailer for game set between ROTJ and TFA. Probably raises as many questions as it answers about the field of play going into TFA.

 This trailer shows the Death Star II blowing up with the ring from the Special Editions.

The SE is still the official canon and all those celebrations shown after the Empire was defeated at Endor that were inserted into RotJ somehow still aren't representative of what actually took place since we're getting sequels set 30+ years later.

One day of celebrations does not yield an entirely new government

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pablumatic said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Star Wars: Uprising Announce Trailer

^ Trailer for game set between ROTJ and TFA. Probably raises as many questions as it answers about the field of play going into TFA.

 This trailer shows the Death Star II blowing up with the ring from the Special Editions.

The SE is still the official canon and all those celebrations shown after the Empire was defeated at Endor that were inserted into RotJ somehow still aren't representative of what actually took place since we're getting sequels set 30+ years later.

Most franchises has this problem nowadays, contradicting story-elements due to different writers with different preferences. This is what happens when you hire fans to write the content. Hopefully Abrams and Kasdan will be doing their own thing, that is unless Disney pushes some content into the films. However it seems that so far Abrams have been mostly been allowed to do his own thing, so I don't think that this new game, or the new TV series, or any other Disney made/endorsed EU will have any impact on TFA. 

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timdiggerm said:

pablumatic said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Star Wars: Uprising Announce Trailer

^ Trailer for game set between ROTJ and TFA. Probably raises as many questions as it answers about the field of play going into TFA.

 This trailer shows the Death Star II blowing up with the ring from the Special Editions.

The SE is still the official canon and all those celebrations shown after the Empire was defeated at Endor that were inserted into RotJ somehow still aren't representative of what actually took place since we're getting sequels set 30+ years later.

One day of celebrations does not yield an entirely new government

I am aware that the EU no longer counts, but from what I recall there was a story where the uprising seen at the end of the SE of ROTJ was eventually stopped by Imperial forces and Coruscant was put back under Imperial control. Even though that specific story may no longer count, I'm sure Disney's new canon is going in a similar direction. This game seems like it's telling a similar story. 

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Couldn't you read the ROTJ celebration footage as flash forwards? I find it hard to believe that news could travel fast enough for the Bespin/Coruscant/Naboo/Tatooine stuff to be literally be happening concurrently with the festivities on Endor, so what's to say that those scenes don't happen weeks or months later (as opposed to the handful of days most people seem to assume)? If we're flashing forward either way there's no reason a short increment of time should be more valid than a longer one. And Bespin is the only planet shown that has anything to do with this Uprising game. I think that as long as there isn't a definite timestamp on that shot, fitting the new game into the timeline isnt a huge stretch.

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Couldn't you read the ROTJ celebration footage as flash forwards? I find it hard to believe that news could travel fast enough for the Bespin/Coruscant/Naboo/Tatooine stuff to be literally be happening concurrently with the festivities on Endor, so what's to say that those scenes don't happen weeks or months later (as opposed to the handful of days most people seem to assume)? If we're flashing forward either way there's no reason a short increment of time should be more valid than a longer one. And Bespin is the only planet shown that has anything to do with this Uprising game. I think that as long as there isn't a definite timestamp on that shot, fitting the new game into the timeline isnt a huge stretch.

I also find it hard to believe that a small backwards planet such as Tatooine would bother to coordinate their freedom celebration on the exact same day as Naboo or Corsuscant. However I don't think anyone here is suggesting that the celebration footage was meant to happen on the same day as the second Death Star blew up, but I doubt that it would be as much as months after the fact. Of course it hard to estimate just how long news travels in the SW universe. But for the sake of nitpicking, I can't help feel that Coruscant would have some way of getting the news pretty quickly being that it is the Imperial Center. However the trailer suggests that the game might be about stopping the uprising that we saw in ROTJ (SE).

The uprising we're referring to btw is mostly done through suggestion, as well as in the EU. If you look at the SE footage of the Coruscant celebration you can see a stormtrooper being attacked by the crowd and a statue of the emperor being tore down.
Best picture I could find:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120114004058/starwars/images/8/84/Corsectrooper.jpg

 

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^oh, I thought we were talking about whether the Star Wars: Uprising game that was just announced makes sense with the timeline of the SE, since some of it takes place on a still-Imperial Bespin immediately after the battle of Endor.

Edit: oh wait, you are talking about that. I'm sorry, I'm on a phone and paying attention to five different things right now.

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joefavs said:

^oh, I thought we were talking about whether the Star Wars: Uprising game that was just announced makes sense with the timeline of the SE, since some of it takes place on a still-Imperial Bespin immediately after the battle of Endor.

Edit: oh wait, you are talking about that. I'm sorry, I'm on a phone and paying attention to five different things right now.

Actually I'm not quite sure what we are talking about. Bespin? I was talking about Coruscant, because someone mentioned the uprising. However now that I re-watched the trailer it does look like they're on Bespin at some point. Or at least it looks like Cloud City in the background. I find it kind of strange to see a Hutt on Bespin however. I guess there's more than one floating city in the SW universe. If it is on Bespin however then you're right in that is kind of looks like it messes up the canon, unless of course all the shots from ROTJ's SE ending is as you suggested weeks or months apart and in the future.

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I read somewhere that the whole game is set in the Anoat sector, with Bespin, Hoth, and a third planet I don't recall (definitely one that wasn't in the films, possibly Anoat itself)

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Well now I'm definitively interested to see what that game really is about. I'm especially curious about the Hutt on Bespin and their explanation for that. Also, why Hoth? Can't be much left there but ruins and wreckage. I guess we'll just to to wait and see if it all makes any sense.

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Uprising is a 'Kabam' game.

So it's probably designed to be wildly addictive, free and fun at first and then when you are hooked like a desperate junkie, you are required to move your entire life savings over to Kabam's account, to be able to keep playing the game. Think I'll avoid it. Being a Star Wars property, it's probably twice as addictive.

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I wish Uprising was a 'Kyle Katarn' game.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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I wish Uprising was a 'Kyle Katarn' game.

 

Blue lightsaber. Bleech.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

ZkinandBonez said:

ATMachine said:

I wish Uprising was a 'Kyle Katarn' game.

 

Blue lightsaber. Bleech.

Kyle's lightsaber was always blue. Except for in Dark Forces II, but that wasn't his lightsaber. That belonged to Qu Rahn.

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ZkinandBonez said:

Kyle's lightsaber was always blue. Except for in Dark Forces II, but that wasn't his lightsaber. That belonged to Qu Rahn.

And then he got hold of Yun's lightsaber, which was yellow.

Probably the only reason they later decided to saddle him with a blue saber was to conform to the shitty RGB colour scheme from the prequels. They did that to virtually all the EU Jedi directly before and after AOTC came out, regardless of whether those characters appeared in the PT -- or the PT era -- at all.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Kyle's lightsaber was always blue. Except for in Dark Forces II, but that wasn't his lightsaber. That belonged to Qu Rahn.

And then he got hold of Yun's lightsaber, which was yellow.

Probably the only reason they later decided to saddle him with a blue saber was to conform to the shitty RGB colour scheme from the prequels. They did that to virtually all the EU Jedi directly before and after AOTC came out, regardless of whether those characters appeared in the PT -- or the PT era -- at all.

"The RGB colour scheme of the prequels"? The OT only had RGB, the PT added colours like yellow and purple into the mix. Of course Dark Forces II predates the PT, so technically they borrowed it from the EU. 

Kyle Did however have a blue lightsaber before he found the Green one. Dark Forces II never really explained how Kyle developed his force powers and lightsaber skills so quickly throughout the game because they released a tie-in novel(s) around the same time to explain that he was a jedi before the events of the DF II (and after DF I). So he technically had the blue lightsaber first.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Forces:_Soldier_for_the_Empire

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Mmmmm......Kyle's dad was a Jedi in hiding. Kyle discovered his Force potential through the story of DFII. The tie-in novels are an expanded retelling of DFII. The first saber he wields is his father's as depicted in the game. 

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