Turns out the the pan/scannd TWC328/RotJ_TP pans far enough to the right to catch the cue markers for the recently mentioned reel change. Oddly this first marker is split over two shots. Luke running toward Leia and the bike and Leia getting on the bike.
and the change over is when Han flips the trooper:
http://www.starburstmagazine.com/features/feature-articles/336-star-wars-from-a-certain-point-of-view
But skirting around vaguely dodgy circles my Dad came home with a few tapes that were amazing quality bootlegs and I finally had my hands on the third film of the trilogy.
Return of the Jedi is probably the film I’ve seen most in my time on this planet
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/star-wars-35th-anniversary_n_1542414.html
Jay Chandrasekhar ("Super Troopers," "The Babymakers")
My family was an early adopter of home-entertainment technology: We owned both a large-screen projection television and an early-model VCR. And in 1979, my dad went to a medical conference in Houston, TX, and returned with something that made me the most popular kid in the neighborhood: a bootleg VHS copy of "Star Wars." Yes, the picture quality was lousy -- it was staticky and small chunks of the film just weren’t there. But it was "Star Wars," in my basement, and I was the kid who owned it. We wore out that tape, watching it close to 50 times. As I think back on it, bringing back that tape was a wildly uncharacteristic move for my dad. You have to understand, my dad is a highly moral man, who always overpaid his taxes, and returned money at stores when he was given too much change. But when faced with the prospect of obtaining a "Star Wars" bootleg, he buckled. He wanted to make his kid happy. He violated his own moral code to do something he knew was wrong. He couldn’t resist. After all, he was the dad that brought home "Star Wars." Thanks, Dad.
http://christianfighterpilot.com/blog/2012/05/09/do-the-right-thing-bootleg-movies-and-deployed-troops/
The movie Star Wars III was available on DVD on the street outside Osan Air Base less than 24 hours after it hit theaters in the states. Many military members — including some Christians — seemed to have no problem purchasing a $5 DVD even though it was obviously pirated; many rationalized it…
http://cinematreasures.org/blog/2012/5/25/celebrating-the-original-star-wars-on-its-35th-anniversary
Edward Havens on May 25, 2012 at 9:10 am
As chance would have it, one of my friends from school was one of the first families to have a VHS player, and somehow his dad had gotten ahold of a top-quality bootleg tape of Star Wars. He lived right across the street from school, so every day after school for an entire year, we’d rush over to his house and watch Star Wars. We easily watched it three hundred times.
Later member of Centropy release group is kickstarting a book. interview:
http://torrentfreak.com/i-was-a-member-of-centropy-the-worlds-leading-movie-piracy-group-120526/
http://bluebattinghelmet.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/the-movie-that-changed-everything/
The year after Star Wars came out, I saw a pirated copy of it on a Betamax machine. It was a glimpse into the future of home entertainment, I suppose.
After years of having lost this, I was going through my old hard drives and finally found my (incomplete) copy of the very rare TPM Thai-subtitled telecine I picked up shortly after the 'Z' version made the rounds in 1999. I think I first posted about this here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Idea-Original-Theatrical-Prequels/post/105168/#TopicPost105168
It appears to have been an EViLiSO VCD distribution, as detailed from an old trade list:
DT Name Time Format Gen Source Q Id# Notes
99 Phantom Menace, The 130 VCDRX2 0 Tel 5 E003 EViLiSO
Here's a few screen shots, cropped in VLC to 16:9. Sadly, I only have the beginning and opening shot from the first half, and part of the pod race to the part where Boss Nass makes Jar Jar general from the second half:
Above, you can see scratches on the frame...this is immediately followed by jump cut where the film was spliced.
This frame above exhibits an interesting artifact.
This scene bootleg is out there in its complete form, somewhere. I was never able to get the whole thing because the FTP site went down before my days-long download could complete back in 1999. The historical value of this 100% theatrical copy is priceless.
--SKot
Projects:
Return Of The Ewok and Other Short Films (with OCPmovie) [COMPLETED]
Preserving the…cringe…Star Wars Holiday Special [COMPLETED]
The Star Wars TV Commercials Project [DORMANT]
Felix the Cat 1919-1930 early film shorts preservation [ONGOING]
Lights Out! (lost TV anthology shows) [ONGOING]
Iznogoud (1995 animated series) English audio preservation [ONGOING]
Just realized this is not technically a theater performance copy, and this is the wrong thread for this post. Can we move this to a more relevant thread?
--SKot
Projects:
Return Of The Ewok and Other Short Films (with OCPmovie) [COMPLETED]
Preserving the…cringe…Star Wars Holiday Special [COMPLETED]
The Star Wars TV Commercials Project [DORMANT]
Felix the Cat 1919-1930 early film shorts preservation [ONGOING]
Lights Out! (lost TV anthology shows) [ONGOING]
Iznogoud (1995 animated series) English audio preservation [ONGOING]
^ It's fine to me. I believe I wrote early on that this threads ideal goal would be versions which contained crowd interaction and were showcasing not just how the movies once were but also how people interacted with the films, but understood that discussion would turn predominately toward early bootlegs and the aspects of the films which have been lost in home video variations. This EViLiSO TPM seems like the counterpart to the Centropy AotC. I'm fine with conversation continuing here, it may get a larger audience in it's own thread, and maybe it's worth cross contaminating some other TPM preservation threads to get word out.
EDIT
The cropping of TPM has been one of those unknown quantities as the home video versions got seriously clipped. The 'Z' version gives a good sense of the cropping, curious as this is a telecine, how much might have been lopped off in that process? Or is a telecine typically very close to full frame as it's a mechanical process.
Here's the .nfo from the version in current discussion.
File name: vcdeu-tpmtc.nfo
VCDE-Uknowwho & LookAsArtz(TW) PRESENTS:
STAR WARS EPISODE 1 The PHANTOM MENACE
WIDESCREEN-SCREENER (SUBTITLED)
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When the evil Trade Federation plots to take over the peaceful planet of
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Some links/info SKot uncovered:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.videos.bootlegs/browse_thread/thread/ca7e84da98ab3cb7/128d37bd93fbe127?q=phantom+menace+telecine#128d37bd93fbe127
In article <37a3c080.22072...@news.giganews.com>, sociall...@iname.com wrote:Jonathan,
>I'm sure many people out there have the 'Z' version of Phantom Menace
>and are now wondering if they should bother to get the Screener. I
>threw together a webpage comparing screen shots that hopefully can
>help. Have a look and decide for yourself!
Its not a screener, its a telecine. there is not screener of SWEP1, then again
a telecine in my view is better then most screeners as its widescreen its very
rare that you see a telecine. I can name only 4 movies this year that have
been telecine rips.
waybackmachine archive of that page:
http://web.archive.org/web/19991012214838/http://geocities.com/~sociallove/movies.html
http://web.archive.org/web/19991013014615/http://geocities.com/~sociallove/swcompare.html
Initial thought because of the thai subs is that EViLiSO is one and the same as the above .nfo. But as the .nfo is dated 1999.07.10 and the link below places EViLiSO closer to opening day, the .nfo could be a repack.
Seems EViLiSO's TPM was released on 1999.05.24
http://web.textfiles.com/ezines/NWR/nwr48.txt
05241999 - Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - Telesync - VCD-EUROPE 05241999 - Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace - Telesync - EVILISO
Do not bother with VCD-Europe's pathetic attempt at getting the glory from this movie. Eviliso has produced the best telesync I've seen. Very few sound glitches and a nearly perfect picture. Mass props to them for the respect shown by only releasing a TS worthy of the film.
and as the .nfo is called vcdeu that's gotta be VCD-Europe as mentioned above. Confusing, is this a bash of different .nfo with different bin/cue files?
and the EViLiSO names was used in some articles on piracy in the months after release:
http://www.laweekly.com/content/printVersion/31007/
In other words, regardless of George Lucas' paranoia, online Star Wars piracy will have little impact, restricted by oppressive download waits. Episode II is safe. Safe, that is, from everyone but Evil ISO and their nefarious ilk, who will be there with camcorders ready and aimed at the screens.
This is odd:
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/07/circuits/articles/29pira.html
There are 15 to 20 groups, with names like Eviliso and VCD-Europe, that are regularly found on pirate Web sites. (Eviliso digitally brands its copies with a letter Z that appears in the corner of the screen.)
http://articles.latimes.com/2001/nov/01/business/fi-64061
Police in Thailand for the first time have uncovered an underground factory that produced illegal DVDs, increasing movie industry fears about the rapid rise of DVD piracy.
The Thai factory had two production lines, one for VCDs and the second for DVDs. Thai police confiscated 3,000 VCDs, including copies of "Dr. Dolittle 2" and "The Mummy Returns;" 7,000 DVDs, including "Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace"
I'm guessing these TPM bootleg DVDs probably used the official DVD which came out a month or two prior to this article.
http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/1999/05/19562
"We have referred certain matters to the FBI," said attorney Terrence P. McMahon, whose firm, Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe, is Lucasfilm's Phantom piracy representative. "We are combining forces with law enforcement and the motion picture industry to attempt to eliminate the distribution of bootleg and pirated copies of Episode I."
Perhaps that's why Lucasfilm has seemingly decided that the best defense is swift offense. Last week Lucasfilm representatives sent letters to about 700 ISPs, warning them that unauthorized distribution of copyrighted material on their servers would bring swift retribution under the aegis of the October 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act. The prospect of Lucasfilm and attorneys swooping down on noncompliant fan sites is a scary one for Star Wars fans -- but not as scary as the possible outcome of rampant piracy.
"The fans need to listen to what Lucas has said about piracy," Jacobsen said. "If no income is generated from this movie, we won't be seeing the next episode."
It's definitely very confusing...maybe both EViLiSO and VCD-Europe got their hands on the same telecine transfer and put out their own releases? Anyway, if that film really got telecine transferred by May 24th, that's pretty amazing...5 days after the film's release!
Funny that that ezine text file referenced above repeatedly calls both groups' release of the film a telesync, when it obviously is a telecine.
I really hope we can turn up a complete copy of this for posterity.
--SKot
Projects:
Return Of The Ewok and Other Short Films (with OCPmovie) [COMPLETED]
Preserving the…cringe…Star Wars Holiday Special [COMPLETED]
The Star Wars TV Commercials Project [DORMANT]
Felix the Cat 1919-1930 early film shorts preservation [ONGOING]
Lights Out! (lost TV anthology shows) [ONGOING]
Iznogoud (1995 animated series) English audio preservation [ONGOING]
SKot said:
After years of having lost this, I was going through my old hard drives and finally found my (incomplete) copy of the very rare TPM Thai-subtitled telecine I picked up shortly after the 'Z' version made the rounds in 1999. I think I first posted about this here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Idea-Original-Theatrical-Prequels/post/105168/#TopicPost105168
It appears to have been an EViLiSO VCD distribution, as detailed from an old trade list:
DT Name Time Format Gen Source Q Id# Notes
99 Phantom Menace, The 130 VCDRX2 0 Tel 5 E003 EViLiSOHere's a few screen shots, cropped in VLC to 16:9. Sadly, I only have the beginning and opening shot from the first half, and part of the pod race to the part where Boss Nass makes Jar Jar general from the second half:
Above, you can see scratches on the frame...this is immediately followed by jump cut where the film was spliced.
This frame above exhibits an interesting artifact.
This scene bootleg is out there in its complete form, somewhere. I was never able to get the whole thing because the FTP site went down before my days-long download could complete back in 1999. The historical value of this 100% theatrical copy is priceless.
--SKot
This would certainly be a nice reference for the TPM Theatrical Preservation especially where color timing and how it looked "before" changes are concerned.
:)
Tape Recording of Star Wars In The Theater From 1977 With My Mother by William Forsche
could someone provide me with the BrianM 70mm audio recording? I tried downloading it via Usenet but it didn't work.
thank you
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מלחמת הכוכבים: הכוח מתעורר *תרגום מובנה* Star Wars The Force Awakens
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Please don’t talk about TFA bootlegs at this time.
Where were you in '77?
From a legal perspective, I don’t think any time is the right time; but from the perspective of version preservation, this seems like the perfect time to be gathering information on the theatrical presentation to compare to the DVD/BR/Digital HD release. But forum rules come first.
From a legal perspective, I don’t think any time is the right time; but from the perspective of version preservation, this seems like the perfect time to be gathering information on the theatrical presentation to compare to the DVD/BR/Digital HD release. But forum rules come first.
Yeah, rules are rules but it’s not like it magically become legal if we wait a bit.
Technically Return of the Jedi cam bootlegs are still illegal.
The point is that until the bluray is officially released, bootlegs can still be seen as taking money away from the studio, and I don’t think any one here wants that negative connotation.
until the bluray is officially released, bootlegs can still be seen as taking money away from the studio
I’d say that fact is extremely debatable, but regardless I’m not disagreeing with the forum rules, I know the negative connotations it comes with; just pointing out that a bootleg is a bootleg.
Regardless I’ve got a feeling the job for any Theater Performance Preservations of all the films henceforth (not just E7) will be much larger in scale. The digital age is great but it also means an insane amount to sift through.
From 2011-01-21 to 2016-08-09, the Theatrical Performance Preservations mentioned in this thread sat on a public server for those that made the connection. In that time, zero complaints were filed, either with the domain hosting service or the search engines which indexed those files. No one wrote to say thank you. This was a test to show that this type of content is culturally irrelevant, a bizarre form of orphaned work or abandonware, considering the time and place this experiment took place. Society, it could be said, agreed in this context. The files would have sat for a longer period of time, but the domain hosting service revised their terms of service. Unlimited plans of the past are now being restricted with different clauses so that people can be rebilled as they migrate to cloud services.
I’m so sorry to read that. Thank you very very much for the 5 years.
Quick questions: Two ROTJ bootlegs available from usenet. This VideoCollector and Treadwell releases. Which is better version?
RotJ VideoCollector discussion starts on page 2:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Theater-Performance-Preservations/id/12161/page/2
RotJ Treadwell discussion starts on page 9:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Theater-Performance-Preservations/id/12161/page/9
TWC328 has some minutes/sections not in the ROTJ_TP. ROTJ_TP has the British title card. TWC328 might have slightly better quality. Screencaps for both are still online from the first post links.
ESB TP Ending crawl (Video Collector version) different deinterlace methods used, created two variations.
This V1 and V2. Poll these stuff, which better? (V1focused from reducing interlace glitches.)
V1: https://ulozto.net/live/!u4SNGpCuS/esb-tp-ending-v1-avi
V2: https://ulozto.net/live/!rdhVTeuJM/esb-tp-ending-v2-avi
SW 1977 Catnap sample: https://ulozto.net/!RQ8Qh3kK1/sample-mkv
This full x264 encoded Catnap RIPs available. ESB TP coming soon. (OFF: And 1982 Rental Starkiller VHSRIPs x264/HEVC versions available in few days.)
ESB TP sample*: https://ulozto.net/!pACuiHJpE/esb-tp-sample-avi
My reasons for DVD5 source:
*Interlace glitches fixed (not all! focusing these deinterlace filters from fixing.) And vhs noise removed. (probably ~95% or higher, remained very low noise) Pixel noise very minimalized.
RAW screens from :F:L:I:M:S:I:P:L:A:S:T:😄:A:T:A:B:A:S:E: site. Checking RAW vs. Denoised version.
puzosep said:
ESB TP sample*: https://ulozto.net/!pACuiHJpE/esb-tp-sample-aviMy reasons for DVD5 source:
- This movie not properly (over)sharpened --> pixel noise
- RAW MPEG-2/Lossless digitized --> X --> Authorized DVD5 release not properly resized, (de?)interlaced --> various interlace glitches.
*Interlace glitches fixed (not all! focusing these deinterlace filters from fixing.) And vhs noise removed. (probably ~95% or higher, remained very low noise) Pixel noise very minimalized.
Yes, my capture of this was down and dirty like I detailed at the time in this very thread. No sharpening or other “enhancements” were attempted. The only thing I did was resize the image to the correct aspect ratio (for 16:9 encoding on DVD). This was done at the encoding stage in TMPEG Enc. This is probably where the deinterlacing was applied, but I it could have been in my capture device. I just don’t have the tech knowledge to tell.
I did send the raw files to Antcufaalb but am happy that someone is attempting to make this a little more watchable. Are you doing the entire film?
Visit my *NEW* Star Wars on Video Collection site:
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Yes, my capture of this was down and dirty like I detailed at the time in this very thread. No sharpening or other “enhancements” were attempted. The only thing I did was resize the image to the correct aspect ratio (for 16:9 encoding on DVD). This was done at the encoding stage in TMPEG Enc. This is probably where the deinterlacing was applied, but I it could have been in my capture device. I just don’t have the tech knowledge to tell.
I did send the raw files to Antcufaalb but am happy that someone is attempting to make this a little more watchable. Are you doing the entire film?
This RAW files format? AVI/MPEG2/Lossless compressed?.
Yes. Asked from X911 this movie 99% done, fixing minimal denoising/other glitches for 1-2 small (few seconds.) scenes. This movie probably available in future days. (uploading speed very slow.) And sending PM from DL links from future time.
Video Collector said:
I did send the raw files to Antcufaalb but am happy that someone is attempting to make this a little more watchable. Are you doing the entire film?This RAW files format? AVI/MPEG2/Lossless compressed?.
Yes. Asked from X911 this movie 99% done, fixing minimal denoising/other glitches for 1-2 small (few seconds.) scenes. This movie probably available in future days. (uploading speed very slow.) And sending PM from DL links from future time.
The “Raw” files are the real-time MPEG2 captures from my desktop DVD recorder at +/- 9 mb/s bitrate (roughly 8GB in size).
Your samples look great, and I don’t think there’s much more quality you can wring out of this capture. I would love to see your finished results, so please PM me when you’re done.
Visit my *NEW* Star Wars on Video Collection site:
Tape Recording of Star Wars In The Theater From 1977 With My Mother by William Forsche
I love these sorts of things. It’s one thing to tell about how special this film was to people, but for those of us who weren’t around then, this makes it real.
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)