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What Didn't You Like About ROTS? — Page 3

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SilverWook said:

That would be like the President of the United States telling the Secret Service to take the night off. 😉

True, but you have to consider the Republic became the Empire very swiftly. I’m not trying to give ROTS too much credit but if you approach from this angle it makes sense. It’s basically the same reason why Palpatine allowed the Rebellion to attack his Death Star II. He is so prideful that he takes some serious risks which have paid out sometimes. It’s a bit of that whole “rhyming” Lucas is fond of.

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Small things:

  • In the opening scene there is a moment when Ewan McGregor makes a face like “oh, this is just soo corny”. And after that the movie was ruined. Even if I did not want it to feel corny, it did because of that scene.
  • Starship designs like the “Uglies” of EU: cobbled together from various parts of X-wing and TIE fighters that we are supposed to recognize from the original trilogy.
    For instance, the Jedi Fighter, which has large curved windows and TIE-fighter like window, with a thick beam separating them: right in front of the pilot’s eyes.
    “S-foils in attack position”: Eh, no. S-foils have guns on them. “Attack position” is when the guns are spread wide for wider dispersal of laser fire. Tiny flapping baby wings on larger wings do nothing.
  • “This is where the fun begins”, said non-ironically.
  • Buzz droids
  • New villain is a cartoon character
    … and that’s just the first few seconds of the movie.

Big things:

  • Padmé is diminished from starship-piloting warrior queen in previous movies to … someone who dies from a broken heart … over a complete dick.
  • Anakin’s fall to the Dark Side is weird.
  • The Emperor’s transition to wrinkly
  • So many unanswered questions in the previous movies that were not told in ROTS. Instead we had to get them from novels set before and after the movie.

Of all official Star Wars movies, I rate Revenge of the Sith last.

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TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Let’s not forget the Jedi Purge lasting all of a couple seconds.

FTFY

The Jedi are completely inept in the PT and it’s magnified in ROTS. They can’t sense Palpatine. They can’t tell Anakin is into some bad shit. They confront Palpatine four to one, and three die within two seconds. All the others are killed by fricking clones.

It’s so embarassing.

Yeah, that ruined Star Wars for me for a long time. I couldn’t believe the galaxy was in trouble without the Jedi in the OT because in the PT I couldn’t believe they would be smart or skilled enough to keep the peace for five seconds, let alone a thousand generations.

Oh and Lucas trying to force an Anakin and Obiwan friendship into the movie movie after all Anakin had done was complain about Obiwan in the last movie. I am sorry but I could not get over that, I just felt like Anakin was sucking up to his master in order to get a promotion, not that they were two good friends tragically driven apart. I wanted Obiwan to wake up and see what a back stabbing ass kisser Anakin was and kill him, so the climax of the whole series had no impact.

This is why it is my most hated of the PT, nothing in it had any impact. At least Jar jar was hateful enough that he had an emotional impact on me and in theory the climax to Episodes one and two either tied up their stories in way that would have made sense in a better movie or left us with a good cliffhanger, but the end of Episode three had no impact what so ever. It even ended with the exact shot i predicted the prequels would end with when they were first announced, and I was 12 when they were first announced so that is not a good thing!

So over all this is the only Star wars film I truly hate and will likely never be able to force myself to watch again.

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I share everyones sentiments on this subject. Other than all of those things, the one character that always bugged me was Sam Jackson as MW. I always thought Lawrence Fishburn wouldve made a far superior MW than Jackson. Like several actors, Jackson was so unbelievable as a Jedi Master.

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BobaJett said:

I share everyones sentiments on this subject. Other than all of those things, the one character that always bugged me was Sam Jackson as MW. I always thought Lawrence Fishburn wouldve made a far superior MW than Jackson. Like several actors, Jackson was so unbelievable as a Jedi Master.

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daileyxplanet said:

BobaJett said:

I share everyones sentiments on this subject. Other than all of those things, the one character that always bugged me was Sam Jackson as MW. I always thought Lawrence Fishburn wouldve made a far superior MW than Jackson. Like several actors, Jackson was so unbelievable as a Jedi Master.

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Not really. 😉

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“I think i’ll call you… hmmm… Vaaader. Yes, Vader”

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What “I” didn’t like about ROTS :

  • the characters
  • the story
  • the editing
  • the visual effects
  • the pacing
  • the never ending boring fight between Anakin and OB1
  • the dialogue
  • Anakin’s turn to the dark side
  • puffy monster face Palpatine
  • the costumes
  • the designs
  • CGI Yoda
  • CGI Jedi
  • the boring fake looking CGI robot monster(s)
  • Wookies

enough?

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moviefreakedmind said:

Yoda Is Your Father said:

“I think i’ll call you… hmmm… Vaaader. Yes, Vader”

I forgot about that. That was so terrible

Did that actually happen? I remember some pretty terrible dialogue from ROTS, but I don’t recall that specific exchange happening.

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ZkinandBonez said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Yoda Is Your Father said:

“I think i’ll call you… hmmm… Vaaader. Yes, Vader”

I forgot about that. That was so terrible

Did that actually happen? I remember some pretty terrible dialogue from ROTS, but I don’t recall that specific exchange happening.

Yes it did. The “hmmm” was added, but that’s how he got his new alias, right after he killed Samuel Jackson

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ZkinandBonez said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Yoda Is Your Father said:

“I think i’ll call you… hmmm… Vaaader. Yes, Vader”

I forgot about that. That was so terrible

Did that actually happen? I remember some pretty terrible dialogue from ROTS, but I don’t recall that specific exchange happening.

It’s more like “Henceforth you shall be known as Darth…heavy ass breathing…Vadah”

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pittrek said:

What “I” didn’t like about ROTS :

  • the characters
  • the story
  • the editing
  • the visual effects
  • the pacing
  • the never ending boring fight between Anakin and OB1
  • the dialogue
  • Anakin’s turn to the dark side
  • puffy monster face Palpatine
  • the costumes
  • the designs
  • CGI Yoda
  • CGI Jedi
  • the boring fake looking CGI robot monster(s)
  • Wookies

enough?

Not sure a practical Robot Monster would have helped…

I don’t recall any Wookies in the movie. The CGI Wookiees were a tad dodgy though. 😉

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  1. Too much CGI. Everything looked fake even by PT standards. I mean, literally everything. It feels like watching someone play a PS2 game or something. All the environments are fake, half the characters are fake. Lucas just went way overboard with the CGI in the second two prequels, but ROTS gets the worst of it. Never once am I able to be immersed in the movie. The lava on Mustafar is obviously fake, the space battles are obviously fake, the clone troopers are obviously fake, even things like the Jedi temple are obviously fake. Everything is overly shiny and clean. I just really hate the entire visual aesthetic of the film. At least Attack of the Clones had semi-interesting environments on Kamino and Geonosis.

  2. Bad writing, both characterization and dialogue. This is a constant throughout the trilogy, but some of the most baffling decisions are made here. People hate on Clones’ sand line, but “You are so beautiful - only because I’m so in love - no, no it’s because I’m so in love with you” is not only the worst line in a Star Wars movie, I genuinely believe it is the single worst line of all-time in any movie without exception. Also, in a span of like five minutes Anakin goes from Jedi to conflicted to SLAUGHTERING CHILDREN ULTRA-EVIL. The whole transformation is way too rushed and unbelievable. Knowing Anakin is a serial child murderer also makes it difficult to believe Vader could be redeemed later on and seems completely out of left field, out of character, and unnecessary. Lucas can’t claim that these are children’s movies and then throw in both shit like Jar Jar and mass child murder (by the protagonist no less). Talk about tonal inconsistency. The child birth death is a horrible plot device too. You’re telling me that in this extremely advanced society with amazing technology everywhere, people still die during childbirth? You can make blasters and ships that travel at the speed of light but you can’t think of a c-section? Wat.

  3. Tries too hard to tie everything together, in the process ironically creates more plot holes. Why did they wipe C3PO’s memory but not R2’s? How did Qui-Gon figure out how to become a force ghost, and if only he, Yoda, and Obi-Wan have this knowledge, how did Anakin become one? Why did Luke get stuck on a desert planet living a hard life as a poor farmer while Leia gets to literally be a princess? Why did Yoda and Obi-Wan give up so quickly? Why did they not fight the Emperor together? How were the clones so easily able to dispatch of every other Jedi? It’s like Lucas was just like “oh shit, I’ve wasted two movies without explaining any of the questions a prequel trilogy is supposed to, so let me just throw it all in here at the last minute.” It just doesn’t work and makes a jumbled mess. If Lucas had split the plot of ROTS over all three prequels instead of meandering with pointless stories about child Anakin, trade routes, a terrible love story, and clones, it might actually have been good. Literally the only important information in the prequels is shoved into this one movie.

And keep in mind this is still the best of the prequels. Says a lot about how bad the other two are.

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I mean ROTS is more entertaining on the surface than the other two. I can watch it without smoking weed being a prerequisite.

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I would have to say that ROTS is definitely not the most watchable prequel IMO. TPM at least looks nice 1/3 of the time. Also, I can ignore Jar Jar’s antics to an extent, what I can’t is the ever present dialogue, the ever present ugly environments, and of course, “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”.

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Dek Rollins said:

I would have to say that ROTS is definitely not the most watchable prequel IMO. TPM at least looks nice 1/3 of the time. Also, I can ignore Jar Jar’s antics to an extent, what I can’t is the ever present dialogue, the ever present ugly environments, and of course, “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”.

I think TPM feels and looks the most like Star Wars but ROTS has a few scenes that are really well done, John Williams’ score is also much better in ROTS

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I actually prefer TPM’s score to ROTS. Different tastes are different tastes. Though, I think we can all agree that even having discussions like this is giving the PT too much credit, since they’re all crap, regardless of which one of the three is better.

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