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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread — Page 207

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I'd hate to think of how those were advertised...

"Now on sale! This droid has a d*** and is spraying pure water for your privates shower! R2-D2 shower heads: the design was intentional.

...Also on sale, Darth Vader's Eye Scream shower head! Fool your friends, scare your enemies! Do Not Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnt!"

Nobody sang The Bunny Song in years…

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Perfect. Absolutely perfect...

Nobody sang The Bunny Song in years…

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“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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Danfun128 said:

Star Wars, The Phantom Menace, is about to hit Sweden's cinemas in 3D, dubbed into Swedish, a move which has infuriated die-hard fans and prompting them to lobby for a boycott of the film.

At first I thought the boycott was because it was TPM, even though it's my favorite of the prequels.

I don't understand what's wrong with dubbing when it comes to kids/family franchises, and Star Wars is just that. I'm sure the subbed version will still exist. Besides, what if the dub is very good?

A little late in answering, but if I understand the issues correctly, I believe it goes something like this (I don't necessarily believe ALL of this dogmatically, but I'm at least sympathetic to the arguments):

Point 1) Dubs (even good dubs) destroy artistic integrity. While both dubs and subs rely on translation, which loses all kinds of nuance, dubs actually erase the original vocal performance--aside from the words, the vocal characteristics, tones, and cues that separate acting from simply reading a script.  In this sense, Eastern bloc-style voiceover dubs are better than traditional dubs because they preserve the original performance, and voice it over with something "neutral" that doesn't attempt to replace that performance.

Point 2) There's a little pride among people and places that don't do dubs.  Reading subtitles isn't actually that advanced a skill beyond just reading--it just takes some practice.  So all but the youngest children can watch films with subtitles just fine (assuming they're onscreen long enough)--dubs simply provide a crutch that delays the age at which they will learn the valuable skill of reading subtitles.  Or learning another language.

So, to the boycott supporters, showing TPM dubbed is both destroying art and dumbing down their children.  And then there's the dubbing too! ;)

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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I'm not 100% what that is, but it looks beautiful.

Nobody sang The Bunny Song in years…

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canofhumdingers said:

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Lightsabers have been shown in several spots in the movies to be able to cut through anything.

So why does Luke go all the way up to the belly of the Snow walker when he could have just as easily cut through a thin point on the walker foot, the curved ankle hinge or lateral strut: (or whatever they're called)

Luke had several seconds while the foot was planted before it began the next step.

(insert blow up Yavin IV response)

 Well, at that point in the films it really hadn't been established that they could cut through anything.  But I have an explanation that I like for my own personal version of Star Wars:

While lightsabers ARE capable of cutting through many things, it isn't necessarily that easy to do.  Much like how there are historical accounts of samurai who could cut through multiple (as many as 4 or 5) human bodies (through the mid section, spine and all) with one strike.  That doesn't mean anyone who picks up a katana can do that.  You must be extremely skilled and have a tremendous amount of practice with proper cutting techniques.  In other words, just because the sword is capable doesn't mean the person weilding it is.  So I like to think lightsabers are much the same as a katana.  The sword itself is capable of incredible things, but only if the person weilding it has extreme amounts of training and skill.

And to get back to your original question...  Since, by that battle, Luke had recieved relatively little training in his short time with Ben, he wasn't capable of cutting through giant pieces of metal, even if it was possible.

Good point. Even in the opening of TPM it takes Qui-Gon several minutes to cut through a thick metal door, which is too long to force it open when faced with a squad of droidekas destroyer droids.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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Danfun128 said:

Star Wars, The Phantom Menace, is about to hit Sweden's cinemas in 3D, dubbed into Swedish, a move which has infuriated die-hard fans and prompting them to lobby for a boycott of the film.

At first I thought the boycott was because it was TPM, even though it's my favorite of the prequels.

I don't understand what's wrong with dubbing when it comes to kids/family franchises, and Star Wars is just that. I'm sure the subbed version will still exist. Besides, what if the dub is very good?

 Seriously. This is a unique opportunity to improve Jar-Jar's voice acting by replacing it all with vintage recordings of the Swedish Chef. ;)

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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My friend bought a sealed copy of The Story of Star Wars yesterday and we spun it at his place. It's crazy how easily I can picture that movie!  I kept looking at his TV expecting to see the film.  It didn't sound so great (don't know if it was the player or a bad pressing), but it was unique listening to the Williams score so lo-fi.  I'm not used to saying that about vinyl, lol.

Also, the narrator calls the Falcon a pirate ship. I'd forgotten that. The original's a sea picture in space. A classic adventure. It's dated for that reason, but I love it nonetheless.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

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bkev said:

My friend bought a sealed copy of The Story of Star Wars yesterday and we spun it at his place. It’s crazy how easily I can picture that movie!  I kept looking at his TV expecting to see the film.  It didn’t sound so great (don’t know if it was the player or a bad pressing), but it was unique listening to the Williams score so lo-fi.  I’m not used to saying that about vinyl, lol.

Also, the narrator calls the Falcon a pirate ship. I’d forgotten that. The original’s a sea picture in space. A classic adventure. It’s dated for that reason, but I love it nonetheless.

IIRC, the picture disc version, (which I amazingly still have) sounded atrocious after just a few plays. That translucent vinyl must have not been very durable. For decades TSOSW was the only way one could hear “close the blast doors!” from the mono mix.

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Awesome. I was only looking at my Story Of Star Wars album the other day. Great memories looking through the album pictures.

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Unless you knew someone with a bootleg videotape, it was the only way to “bring the movie home” before 1982. 😃

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