Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 493

You're going to have to be more specific to get any meaningful answers on this.  What kind of sound system are you using, and how is it hooked up?  Are you trying to bitstream multichannel lossless audio to a home theatre receiver with an HDMI cable?  Is the playback software supposed to be decoding it to multichannel PCM?  Multichannel analog?  Are you downmixing it to stereo?  More information is required.  Please be as specific as possible so I'll have more to go on.

Also keep in mind that the difference between DTS at 1509 kbps and the full uncompressed track is going to be a subtle one.  Unless your analog gear is of sufficiently high quality, it will be very difficult to tell them apart in a blind test.  You don't have to feel like you're missing out too much by listening to the core DTS track, because it will still deliver the soundtrack quite excellently.

CatBus said:

Just to close the loop on this, there is certainly an error here, and it's like that on the GOUT, which means it likely has been an error on most Castilian dubs of the OT since it was first out on home video.  IIRC there's a reel change right in the middle of the trash compactor scene, so if, perhaps, there was damage on their Castilian audio at the end of one reel, maybe some wise guy thought they could just splice in the Latino audio and nobody would care.  When they went back and re-did things for the Special Editions, they either found some undamaged audio or managed to repair or re-record it, so it's correct on the Blu-rays.  Since that scene isn't very much altered, it should be a piece of cake to restore.

It reminds me very much of what happened with the missing dialogue on the German dub, and I wonder if the other pre-home-video dubs (French, Italian) may need some looking over too.  RobotWalrus has checked the rest of the trilogy and the Castilian dubs for those are fine.

I'll make a fixed track and make it available to any interested parties.  I don't have it yet, but let me know if you're interested.

I wouldn't be too surprised about the wise guy part, since these kinds of mishaps are not unheard of in my country. I own myself a copy of the Castillian DVD of the 20th Anniversary edition of The Name of the Rose, which restored a couple of scenes that were deleted from the theatrical release, and instead of re-casting the original Spanish voice actors (or just leave the new scenes in English and adding subtitles if they so needed to be cheap about it), they filled in the blanks with audio parts performed by obviously amateur actors whose voices sounded nothing like the originals (the butchery begins at about 0:47).

Also, for puritism's sake (which I failed to mention in our PM exchanges), I compared the audio in the Special Edition of the film with my (circa 1986) VHS copy of the original, unaltered film. The Castillian audio for the trash compactor scene is exactly the same in both copies, no dialogues were re-recorded for the Special Edition. :)

Needless to say, I'm definitely interested in obtaining the fixed audio track. :3

The same was done on Slovak dubs of the prequels on the Bluray cuts - the dubs were done for theatrical cuts and for the BD cuts they simply redubbed the new scenes with completely different (and MUCH worse) actors.

I think the Despecialized Edition that Harmy & Company have put together is simply "magical". Lucas farted on my childhood, and you guys have brought back the great memories to it's original glory. Thank you!

CatBus said:

It reminds me very much of what happened with the missing dialogue on the German dub, [...]

pittrek said:

The same was done on Slovak dubs of the prequels on the Bluray cuts - the dubs were done for theatrical cuts and for the BD cuts they simply redubbed the new scenes with completely different (and MUCH worse) actors.

Harmy said:

Same for Czech, I think, only it was done for DVD.

Harmy said:

OK guys, how's this:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0dtCY1O9WXzN2hXRmxGRjU3cFU/edit?usp=sharing

(It's just the new Oscar intro)

 I think this perfect. People forget that the academy praised it as much as the fans for what it did to change cinema today !

I do think the crawl is out of place as well.

This comparison is amazing as well. !

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/88841

CatBus said:

RobotWalrus said:

Sweet Lord. I had attributed the problem with the Castillian track to either a honest mistake by whoever put together the GOUT edition or just lazy editing, but after reading what you all mention, I'm beginning to think that they are doing it on purpose.

Not to mention the Russian dub mixes PAL and film-speed sources without pitch-correcting them to match. I get the feeling that dubbing is an afterthought in a lot of places, and not just with Star Wars. The only place I've noticed that dubs get a real professional level of attention is in France.  In fact, I personally had a pretty low opinion of dubbing in general until I heard some French audio for some films.

It is, dubbing is done on the cheap by people who refuse to consider it a proper way to watch the movie anyway, and it's mostly looked down on.

If I was a director i'd probably refuse to let anyone dub my movie anyway.

Just downloaded the 17 gig MKV and there is no voice...music is there but no voice or sound effects ect just using windows media player to play it with codec pack installed...any help on how to fix this would be great...ok thank you...and thank you Harmy this is so awesome :)

Axiom9 said:

Just downloaded the 17 gig MKV and there is no voice...music is there but no voice or sound effects ect just using windows media player to play it with codec pack installed...any help on how to fix this would be great...ok thank you...and thank you Harmy this is so awesome :)

Harmy said:

In its heyday, Czech dubbing used to have excellent quality (this was in the 60s and 70s and to a lesser extent in the 80s and 90s) - it used to employ famous Czech film and stage actors, so the acting was actually very good - this has changed in recent years and most current Czech dubs are very sub-par.

Thanks RobotWalrus I feel like a total noob...should have just tried another player...but im old so i can use that as my excuse :)

Axiom9 said:

Thanks RobotWalrus I feel like a total noob...should have just tried another player...but im old so i can use that as my excuse :)

Btw....another story just went up with Harmy's interview!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/star-wars-george-lucas-doesnt-150000465.html