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I prefer the Clone Wars Multimedia Project over TCW and affiliated media, but I like Ahsoka as a character, so I like to think she existed. In my head-canon, she has the same personality as her Rebels version and the same physical appearance as her own adult version that is seen in the Mortis arc in TCW. She was trained by a random master who has never been seen in the films and was never part of the Council, one master among many, and was appointed as a Jedi Knight before the Battle of Geonosis. During the Clone Wars, she was 22 years old (the same age as Anakin in ROTS) and was in command of her own battalion of Clones. She fought heroically during the war, as she was convinced that it was necessary to restore peace to the Galaxy and defeat the Separatists and the Sith. However, during the course of the war she began to mature ideological and philosophical differences with the Jedi Order and begun to convince herself that the strict rules of the Order were wrong, so much so that she started to develop feelings for one of her commanders. She even planned to leave the Order and go her own way after the war, but unfortunately she was killed during Order 66. She never had anything to do with Anakin, Obi-Wan, Padmé, etc.

«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)

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The new Disney+ shows (Mandolorian, Bad Batch, Book of Fett, etc.) replace the ST and there are now 3 timelines.

I’m not really that much of a movie purist. I really should’ve thought my name out a bit more.

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You do realize they’re eventually gonna tie into the ST one way or another.

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I like the idea that Palpatine used the Dark Side of the Force to create Anakin and that Snoke was a failed attempt to clone Plagueis before they cloned Palpatine. I’m up for whatever the official canon rolls out, but in my head that’s the way I see them.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

You do realize they’re eventually gonna tie into the ST one way or another.

Yeah, but it’s nice to have a temporary illusion of a fresh start.

I’m not really that much of a movie purist. I really should’ve thought my name out a bit more.

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This is less of a headcanon and more just my child mind interpreting the films weirdly, but as a kid, I imagined that in RotJ, Luke was visiting Yoda on his 900th Birthday. Meaning he was 899 during Empire.

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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Well canonically he was exactly 900 when died in RotJ, believe it or not. I guess that’s just the result of the EU interpreting his line “When 900 years old you reach” a little too literally.

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This isn’t that much of a stretch as it’s supported by the new comic books and bits of context from the films but I fully believe Snoke is a homunculus made from a fairly equal mix of Palpatine’s and Luke Skywalker’s DNA.

The reason he’s so hellbent on destroying Luke and his legacy, other than Palpy’s manipulations, is because some part of him knows what he is and hates himself for it, but is so twisted by the dark side that killing his unwitting progenitor seems like the only thing worth living for. Snoke to me is this tragic, insane, artificially-aged, perverted amalgam of Palpatine, and the one man he hates most in the universe.

His monologues in TLJ have a real sadness to them for me now tbh.

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All people who are not Force sensitive are able to keep their consciousness in an eternal limbo. Non-Force-sensitive people cannot become Force ghosts, but they still keep their consciousness in a kind of limbo, and Force ghosts can enter this limbo. So, after his death in ROTJ Anakin reunited with Padmé in the afterlife. There’s no one who will ever convince me otherwise, not even George Lucas.

I absolutely need to believe this. I simply can’t accept the fact that Padmé is gone forever and that Anakin can never reunite with her. I need to believe that the two of them reunited in the afterlife, otherwise I feel really bad. I love them both too much to think they’ll never get together again.

«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)

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All this head-canons MUST be read in the context of the old Expanded Universe.

  1. We know every time Anakin was given periods of leave from military service during the Clone Wars, he took advantage of it to spend time with Padmé. Well, during a week of leave granted to him by the Council, one evening Anakin returned to Padmé’s apartment completely drunk. Since Padmé’s handmaidens all resemble her and since Anakin was completely drunk, he accidentally kissed Dormé thinking she was Padmé. No one has ever known it except Anakin, Padmé (Anakin told her later) and Dormé herself.
  2. Sabé (Padmé’s handmaiden) has a crush on Obi-Wan. It’s a completely useless head-canon, but at the same time I like to think it, because I recently read a Fanfiction based on it, and after reading it I like to think she had a crush on him hahaha. 😄
  3. I don’t take into account the Revenge of the Sith novelization, because I don’t like the way Matthew Stover portrayed Anakin and Padmé’s relationship. However, the part of the novelization In which it’s said that Anakin wanted access to the restricted section of the Temple archives is still Canon to me. So, while I don’t take into account the whole novelization, in my head canon the reasons Anakin wanted to become a Jedi master are the same as in the novelization.
  4. After Attack of the Clones, Jar Jar began taking diction lessons in order to better speak Galactic Basic. At the time in wich the events of Revenge of the Sith happened he was already able to correctly pronounce sentences like all humans, but we don’t see it because in the film he didn’t say a single word.

«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)

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Darth Malgus said:
but we don’t see it because in the film he didn’t say a single word.

He says excuse me

Reading R + L ≠ J theories

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I believe that force ghosts, if they feel like it, can be seen even by non-Force users, thus, the Hayden Force Ghost in ROTJ can represent what everyone else sees (the young-ish heroes of the prequels), while Luke sees the original Shaw and Guinness ghosts.

Pretty much, I think that a force ghost appears differently to different people, depending on how that person last saw the other.

I’m not really that much of a movie purist. I really should’ve thought my name out a bit more.

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The more “kiddie” and simplistic episodes of Clone Wars (like Malevolence and the Jar-Jar episodes) are in-universe Republic propaganda films, which is why the Republic’s corruption is glossed over and the Separatists are shown as incompetent morons. The more mature and complex episodes (like Umbara and Ahsoka leaving the Jedi) are the actual truth of what happened.

Taking a que from Robot Chicken, Boba was insanely drunk on Malastarian gargle-blasters during the sail barge battle, which is why he was stumbling around in an almost intoxicated way while trying to fight Luke. His pain and suffering as the Tuskens dragged his acid-scarred body through the Dune Sea was accompanied by the worst hangover of his life.

Jar Jar is a dark side user, although he isn’t a Sith. He was banished from his tribe for discovering ancient Sith texts hidden in Naboo’s Sacred Place, and he used the knowledge contained in those texts to obtain vast dark side power. His signature technique was a subtle form of mind control, manifesting through apparent coincidence. When the Queen’s ship made it to Coruscant, Palpatine sensed Jar Jar’s power, and formed an alliance with him. Jar Jar would mind control the Senate into giving Palpatine absolute power, and in return Palpatine would have Jar Jar be one of his top advisors. However, this deal was a ruse, and Palpatine killed Jar Jar soon after the rise of the Empire.

My preferred Skywalker Saga experience:
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Jar Jar is a dark side user, although he isn’t a Sith. He was banished from his tribe for discovering ancient Sith texts hidden in Naboo’s Sacred Place, and he used the knowledge contained in those texts to obtain vast dark side power. His signature technique was a subtle form of mind control, manifesting through apparent coincidence. When the Queen’s ship made it to Coruscant, Palpatine sensed Jar Jar’s power, and formed an alliance with him. Jar Jar would mind control the Senate into giving Palpatine absolute power, and in return Palpatine would have Jar Jar be one of his top advisors. However, this deal was a ruse, and Palpatine killed Jar Jar soon after the rise of the Empire.

I like more the “Jar Jar is just an idiot” version. I mean, I like him precisely for this reason hahaha 😄

«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)

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Before Snoke was turned into a pickled puppet, I figured that his monsterous scarring was from losing a duel with Luke. Either before Kylo’s turn or possibly even after, like perhaps after the temple was destroyed, Luke found Snoke and ‘killed’ him, and Luke’s exile was in part because he felt dangerously close to turning dark himself.

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Here are some from me:

  • I don’t like the ages in canon at all. I put Anakin as a 10 year old in TPM, Padmé 14 and Obi-Wan 25. Them saying in AOTC that “haven’t seen her in 10 years” and all those references to 10 years are just a way to round it, when in fact 11 years passed between TPM and AOTC (every year counts, trust me!). That puts Anakin at 21 and Padmé at 25, Obi-Wan at 36 in AOTC.
  • As a folow-up, the Clone Wars lasted for seven years. Several parts of the ROTS novelization are canon to me here, especially the ones about Obi-Wan and Anakin’s relationship - “The war made them one. There is no Obi-Wan without Anakin” and stuff like that. The war made Anakin deeply paranoid especially about his relationship to Padmé, and every time they meet is like in ROTS or the 2D Tartakovsky show - something really desperate and sort of hidden, not knowing when the next time will be.
  • All of this adds up meaning that by ROTS, Anakin is 28, Padmé 32 and Obi-Wan 43.
  • Anakin barely gets any sleep during ROTS, and doesn’t really eat. He’s going completely on auto-pilot, like he’s numb. Nothing feels real to him. It’s all a dream, or a nightmare.
  • 23 years pass between ROTS and the original Star Wars, meaning ROTS takes place in 23 BBY. Kenobi takes place in 13 BBY, Solo takes place in 8 BBY, and Rebels doesn’t end on the same year Star Wars takes place.
  • Luke and Leia are 23 in Star Wars, Ben is 66, Vader is 51, Han is 31.
  • In Star Wars, the Death Star was mostly empty, and the only pilots it had available are the ones sent to fight the Rebel spaceships. That’s because the Empire desperately wanted it out there doing work, even when they really should’ve waited more months to arm it up and have its full capablities of personnel filled.
  • 3 years pass between Star Wars and Empire. A lot happened in those three years.
  • For Luke, he studied more and more of the Force, but was very much not a patient and calm kid. The disturbance in the Force felt by Vader and the Emperor in Empire is Luke finally being able to make the Force “obey one of his commands”, as opposed to only “controlling his actions” as it had done up to that point. That was when he managed to be calm, at peace, in focus and grab the lightsaber in the Wampa cave, which really made him go that extra step in his connection to the Force and made him atuned enough with it in order for Ben to appear before him, who sent him to Dagobah in the next step of his journey. All of that combined means there’s a new player in town.
  • In those three years, Leia and Han hooked up several times but nothing ever came out of it. It’s why Han is so sure of his advances in Empire, and it really takes all of the predatory nature of the relationship out of the equation if something already happened between them.
  • Time passes differently in Dagobah, but not because of any sci-fi reason, but because of the Force. Han and Leia’s adventure in Empire lasts for a couple weeks, while Luke spends months in Dagobah.
  • Finally, two years pass between Empire and Jedi. Vader dies aged 56, Luke and Leia are 28, Han is 36.
  • The Force is something that if you have enough outside guidance you can mostly improve at it yourself. Luke is essentially a self-taught Jedi, and he spent the two years between Empire and Jedi honing his skills and enhancing his connection to the Force, working his ways around problems he knew existed from his time with Yoda.

As for more general stuff:

  • Force potential can’t be passed down by blood. The Skywalker family is strong in particular because they’re a family that “shouldn’t even exist.” It’s the result of the Force itself acting and trying to course correct the state of the Galaxy. Anakin fails and it falls upon his children, who are indeed the two “chosen ones”, if there’s such a thing.
  • I like to think the PT Jedi misinterpreted the Chosen One prophecy with Anakin and it’s what caused theirs and his doom, and that the PT is more of a subversion of that trope à la Matrix than actually just the trope.
  • The Force isn’t like Harry Potter magic, meaning, you can’t “use it by accident just because you have it”, like Ezra does all the time for instance. It’s my main issue with Rebels. That’s not how the Force works. Like Ben says, the Force controls your actions like it does for Luke in the first film (but even that takes effort! Neither Luke nor Anakin ever use it “by accident”), but you have to work hard and study a ton to have control over it and be one with it. It’s like mastering a martial art, or an instrument, or any skill like that. Gotta devote yourself and really be passionate.
  • This is something Pablo Hidalgo actually mentioned on twitter yesterday: Darth Vader wasn’t very well known before the original film, after which Death Squadron (Vader’s fleet) is formed to personally hunt down the Alliance after there’s a person of interest (Luke) with them. The reactions from Motti/Ozzel/Jerjerrod are a good indication of Vader’s reputation within the Empire and out by the time of each film.
  • The back to back hit Scarif/Yavin is what made the Rebellion really grow in size and the Empire take them seriously.

JEDIT: Among some little fixes here and there to this, I’d like to add that I’ve personally added several headcanons from this thread into mine. For instance, the one about the Death Star II really being a shell that can’t even blow up planets and simply exists for political reasons (I’d arrived at it only existing for political reasons, but the stuff about it barely being a Death Star makes so much sense it’s almost obvious, thanks!), or the one about Anakin’s final moment being seeing Padmé in Luke. There was also mention of Bail and Breha’s final moments be mourning Leia since Tarkin had signed her termination - really dark stuff that you don’t even consider watching the original film. Talk about extra material making things more important…

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I don’t like the ages in canon at all. I put Anakin as a 10 year old in TPM, Padmé 14 and Obi-Wan 25.

I do the same thing. However, I like to keep the time gap between The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones as officially established, and the same goes for the time gap between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. So, in Attack of the Clones Anakin is 20, Padmé is 24 and Obi-Wan is 35, while in Revenge of the Sith Anakin is 23, Padmé is 27 and Obi-Wan is 38. In addition, I also keep the original time gap between the rest of the films, so Luke, Han and Leia’s ages don’t change. By the way, the official gap between Hope and Empire is 3 years, so your change isn’t a real change.

Time passes differently in Dagobah, but not because of any sci-fi reason, but because of the Force. Han and Leia’s adventure in Empire lasts for a couple weeks, while Luke spends months in Dagobah.

I like this a lot, too.

«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)

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Luke already foresaw through the Force how his conflict with Jabba was going to end, or at least what the ideal outcome for him and his friends was. He just wanted to give Jabba a chance to solve things nonviolently.

You can notice that Luke nods along and looks almost pleased when 3PO is announcing their death sentence from Jabba. At that point, Luke has exhausted every alternative option (bargaining, stealth, Force persuasion), and he knew beforehand that this was what was most likely to happen.

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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This is actually something I’m wanting to imply in an eventual ROTJ edit with some added Jabba subtitles!

Luke: You should’ve bargained, Jabba.

Jabba: [as Jabba waves them off] Why? Have you seen the future?

Luke: This is the last mistake you’ll ever make.

Shot of Leia being tugged closer to Jabba.

Jabba: [added line] Your vision fails you, Jedi.

I might not do both lines, but it would come right after that head nod like you mentioned. I think there are some really good explanations of their plan, but I think audiences would accept their crazy plan even more if the idea that Luke saw how events would unfold was hinted at. It also sort of parallels how the Emperor foresaw how events would unfold in the final act as well. In this version of the story, both Luke and the Emperor sets up traps for their enemies based on their future visions.

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“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

Also known as Mr. Liquid Jungle.

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In terms of raw power, Luke was never one of the strongest Force users. He wasn’t loaded with midichlorians, and he was a relatively mid-level Jedi, overall.

This reinforces to me the idea that Luke wasn’t made great by his power, but by his kindness and moral quality.

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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The prequel trilogy are holonet biopic dramas.

Which, I suppose explains the Shakespearian writing and acting and other theatrical reinterpretations.

“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

Also known as Mr. Liquid Jungle.