I always figured Palpatine was the one pulling the strings when i saw Force Awakens and they had that ridiculous fade in of the hologram of Snoke being imposing and giant.
I said this is Wizard of Oz stuff that Palpatine was behind the curtain.
But then i didn’t think anything further of it when he was cut in half and discarded like the cast off knockoff darksider non Sith/ fake Palpatine he always was. So when he was just a stupid puppet clone in a vat in ROS i laughed.
I chuckled even harder when i realized Kylo’s vision of speaking to Vader were just visions given to him by the Emperor, so obvious Anakin was redeemed Vader doesn’t exist. But this kid held onto the concept of Vader and he wanted to finish what he started. And Luke is afraid he’ll become another Vader so he exiled himself and refuses to pick up a lightsaber again and takes the barash vow. And Ben lets himself be corrupted by anger and resentment over having imperfect but loving parents, when many of the galaxy’s children are orphans.
He is contemptible and evil for no reason. Only because the plot requires it. The worst part he killed his father over a lie. A trick of a Sith Lord. And somehow Leia and Luke never mentioned Anakin’s redemption and somehow Hayden Anakin never appeared to him as a force ghost to set him straight. Its plenty convenient.