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BTW I found a perfect line for when Rey slams her bags down. Will show it when I come back to the computer in an hour or so.

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Neerb said:

DominicCobb said:

Neerb said:

This might seem kinda needless, but there’s something else I think might be worth touching in that scene.

After Rey says “I don’t want to go without your blessing, but I will,” we get a reaction shot of Leia look up at her. I think that shot would be better as the very last shot of the scene, after Rey says “It’s what you would do.” I think that better sells that Leia/Carrie is actually there reacting to Rey/Daisy, and that Rey’s words are why Leia returns the saber in the next scene.

I’ve tried this before. It works decently, though I’m still not sure if I’m going to do it.

Is there a particular issue that makes you unsure?

It’s been a minute so I don’t remember what didn’t sell me on it completely. I’ll have to check again.

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Alright I got two options for Leia lines when Rey is messing with the bags. I put them both in the same video:

https://youtu.be/StyzmM6L4Zs

So the first one I like because Leia is basically saying that they have finished the training session for the day. And then Rey responds that actually she DIDN’T finish the course. Feels like a natural conversation.

The second one mostly would be there to let the viewer know who Rey is talking to before the camera reveals Leia.

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I’m really glad this edit has taken the time to implement so many ideas. So much stuff has been added since the first version, when it seemed like things were over; I honestly hope this edit gets as much time as it can so it reach its full potential. This more than most edits for me, has really transformed the movie.

Filmic Crossroads, Daniel L. Isidore

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Alright I got two options for Leia lines when Rey is messing with the bags. I put them both in the same video:

https://youtu.be/StyzmM6L4Zs

That first one sounds really great if someone can fix it up abit to match the scene.

Filmic Crossroads, Daniel L. Isidore

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I’m sure there are plenty of examples of Rey saying no. In fact, I might as well look in the game files again lol.

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https://youtu.be/fjPku0eKscE

I never realised how much of a gold mine of dialogue is in Lego: Star Wars the force awakens, especially since they got the actual cast to record stuff.

Filmic Crossroads, Daniel L. Isidore

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Cinefy said:

https://youtu.be/fjPku0eKscE

I never realised how much of a gold mine of dialogue is in Lego: Star Wars the force awakens, especially since they got the actual cast to record stuff.

Absolutely haha. That reminds me, are they doing a similar thing for the upcoming Skywalker Saga Lego game?

Anyways, I wasn’t able to find a good instance of Rey saying “no” in the files surprisingly. So it would have to be taken from somewhere else unfortunately. I did find one but she sounds frustrated, which is contrasted with her monotone of the next line.

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Awesome tests!

I know there is a pretty brief time period before Rey begins speaking, but I actually think it’d be nice to combine both examples, “Well, that’s the important stuff dealt with.”

I don’t know if there is enough time to fit in Rey saying “No”. (I think having her say “I” at the beginning of that sentence would be nice, too) I think “Well” would work better if it was inflected like a question. Like, “Well?” or “So?” I know there are very limited options though.

Looking back at that scene, even if we couldn’t find something perfect to fit in the beginning, I think it would be nice to have Leia ask, “Why?” in that wide shot, at the very least. So it goes like:

Rey: Didn’t finish the training course. Got distracted.

Leia: Why?

Rey: I’m just not feeling myself.

See? Just one extra word makes it feel more like an actual conversation. “Tell me” could fit in there too.

Also, I feel like the added lines could potentially be ever so slightly pitched down or something. Leia just seems to speak a little deeper in TROS than she did in TFA, or her Lego lines more specifically.

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You’re right RL, that’s the original line haha. I cut it into two because the entire thing didn’t fit in the amount of space given.

I tried using “no” but as a result Leia’s line had to be pushed back. Way too squished. And this isn’t the “no” I would like anyways:

https://youtu.be/Q0xFpODyWK8
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pk6n1BxaGc81WTtMltXHDVcAknV-dDnd/view?usp=sharing

And I’m not sure why her voice sounds different. I’d imagine they would have been recorded around the same time as TFA.

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At this point, I’m thinking these might be the most seamless options:

For that scene, keep Rey’s line first. Take Leia saying “Tell me” from the Exegol conversation and let that be Leia’s response in that wide shot.

Rey: Didn’t finish the training course. Got distracted.

Leia: Tell me.

Rey: I’m just not feeling myself. I know it, it looks like I’m making excuses…

Leia: Don’t tell me what things look like, tell me what they are.

I think it fits there naturally in the conversation, and I feel like that wide shot desperately needs some kind of response from Leia. It’s like Rey’s just continuing the conversation with herself while Leia just stands there. It might make more sense to have Leia say something there, than to squeeze in a line where there is not much space for the other line to breathe.

And then for the Exegol conversation, maybe we could just try to trim the pause so it feels like Leia doesn’t even have time to give Rey a reason not to go.

If we can’t get the new lines to feel seamless, this might be the best way to work with what we have.

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I do have a clip of Leia saying “Alright?”, but the problem is that once again she is speaking in a higher-pitched voice that contrasts her next line. Otherwise it would work as a replacement for “tell me”.

EDIT: NVM just found the golden ticket. There’s a line here of her saying, “There’s been a lot of that lately.” Perfection!

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Unfortunately it’s not working for me, the tone doesn’t feel right for that scene.

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Hmm, I do like what you’re going for, but I also worry that using too much would make the artificiality of Leia’s performance feel even more noticeable than it was before.

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DominicCobb said:

Unfortunately it’s not working for me, the tone doesn’t feel right for that scene.

I get what you mean. I think it’s because she was recording the lines for a children’s game. But for me personally, I am willing to overlook that. The lines make her seem more like a real person and less like a Woody doll playing catchphrases every so often.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

I’m sure there are plenty of examples of Rey saying no. In fact, I might as well look in the game files again lol.

Theres a ton of Daisy Ridley in Battlefront II if you ever need to search for dialogue like that.

Filmic Crossroads, Daniel L. Isidore

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NeverarGreat said:

The first lines are also lighter in implementation - they have more treble whereas the lines in the movie have more bass.

I’m definitely no audio professional. I just downloaded Audacity last week lol.

Would it be possible to augment these ones to have more bass? They probably sound off because I simply turned down the DB on the gain volume filter.

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I feel like part of the problem with Leia’s dialogue in that scene is that the line “don’t tell me what things look like, tell me what they are” sounds… wrong somehow, in terms of audio quality. Like it was recorded on a completely different microphone much closer to her face compared to the rest of the dialogue in that scene.

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Am I making Carrie Fisher’s ghost proud?”
Well, are ya, punk?

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Is the loudness of a line supposed to scale with where the camera is in comparison to the character? Because my thinking was that for the first two lines the camera was further away from her, while the final was much closer to her face.

I think I should just share the lines here again for everyone. I don’t really know what I’m doing with audio so maybe the reason it sounds off is because I’m doing something wrong.

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Cinefy said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I’m sure there are plenty of examples of Rey saying no. In fact, I might as well look in the game files again lol.

Theres a ton of Daisy Ridley in Battlefront II if you ever need to search for dialogue like that.

In addition to the BFII and Lego TFA game files, there’s also the Disney Infinity 3.0 game which Daisy, Adam, Oscar and John all recorded unique lines for. Might be worth combing through to see if there’s anything usable for either this or any of the other line insert/replacement ideas currently being floated!

Disney Infinity 3.0 Rey Lines (the other character’s full voice lines are uploaded on the same user’s channel): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC7ex3Ekhx4

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Jar Jar’s question: I don’t think it has to do with the loudness; though, honestly, I don’t really know what it is that makes it sound different. If I had to guess, I’d say it’s that higher frequencies travel farther, so when someone’s mouth is right next to a microphone it sounds more bass-heavy than what you’d hear if you were talking to them at a reasonable distance.

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Am I making Carrie Fisher’s ghost proud?”
Well, are ya, punk?