Tantive3+1 said:
ray_afraid said:
Hey, thanks!
I don’t think the idea suits the ideas behind Ady’s edit, but I’d love to see it come to life someday.
I got to admit that the pacing in the beginning of the film never worked for me. It starts off with Vader arriving in the DSII, then it cuts to Tatooine at Jabba’s palace rescuing Han where they get captured and fight at the Sarlaac pit for about 30 minutes, then the core of the story gets back on track on Dagobah with the Yoda and Obi-Wan scenes.
I also doubt that ady would implement something like this (he’s said in the past no deleted scenes) but it sounds cool for another edit. However i agree the pacing is a bit weird in the original. it doesn’t feel like the first half of the movie has anything todo with second so they chopped up the middle and sprinkled it all over the first act. the edit would also help with the whole luke not finishing his training but we do miss the whole “what i told you was true, from a certain point of view” which isn’t a good explination but its better than totally avoiding it. i would say that it would be better if it happened on endor tho. think about it, we open on dagubah, luke saying goo bye to yoda, then rather than luke just meeting obi wan there he would be stuck waiting, having not talked to him since esb, perhaps because obiwan is waiting till luke is ready. So luke would be struggling with anger the whole movie and make that moment he overcomes his anger way more powerful becasue he would have a more evident reason to be angry - obi wan was ignoring him for months/years - then when on endor when he is preparing to leave, he meets obiwan, who explains everything, tells him about leia and then we get the convo with her.
that way we have a more grounded opening before moving into tatooine and the ds scenes would feel less out of place because we could cut to vader after yoda says “you must face vader” (i think thats what he says). it would also work intercut with the tatooine sequence as it would explain where luke is and why they did the plan how they did, perhaps luke was going to be more active but he had to go see yoda again as he was dying. but they tried to go ahead with the plan without him, so he comes back late.
why not wait?? well they don’t know if han is still alive in there and he was coming closer to death everyday, hibernation sickness, (which temporarily blinds him) could have been worse with more time and could kill him. so they didn’t know what yoda wanted or if luke would be back for training for a long time (im guessing that luke did more training between the two movies, but had to leave to find a crystal for his saber).
but yeah that was way longer than i was planning, i think the pacing can never be perfect on rotj, but its not that good rn, so it could be changed for the better. (im not saying what ive said is better, but in my head it works, need to test it to be sure oc, one day … one day)