Small details that took you FOREVER to notice in the Star Wars films — Page 11

Well, he might have been on the other side of the moon for all we know. There must be more Imperial garrisons than that one platform. Even the legion of troops had to come somewhere. Vader could have just travelled from another spot to meet Luke.

Shopping Maul said:

screams in the void said:

I watched Return Of The Jedi last night and caught something that I never gave much thought …when the Emperor tells Vader to go to the sanctuary moon and wait for Skywalker , he does not arrive on the moon until after nightfall .In the scene right after Vader has his talk with Palps ,the rebels land on Endor and a full day passes into night before Luke goes off to meet Vader . Was there that much travel time between Death Star 2 and Endor via shuttle ? Or did Vader go off and meditate for a while before departing ? I guess this could be open to a lot of speculation .

Also Luke says to Leia “Vader’s here - on this moon…” when Vader hasn’t landed yet.

Hmm. That’s kinda interesting.
I’m bring this up elsewhere…

I didn’t actualy notice this one on my own, but during the Obi-Wan vs Grevious scene on Utapau, you can very briefly, behind the big lizard creature, see a clone trooper boxing a battle droid.

https://youtu.be/qJg8Pui6KZk?t=189

LexX said:

Well, he might have been on the other side of the moon for all we know.

Maybe? But it doesn’t make visual sense. You shouldn’t have to rationalize it.

There must be more Imperial garrisons than that one platform.

Why? They’re just protecting the shield generator.
Why would they need platforms on the other side of the planet? Why would Vader arrive there & then have to travel all the way around the entire planet to get where he was trying to go? He knew what the Rebels were up to & about where they’d be.

So apparently in the SW universe the driver’s seat is on the right.

As a side note, the speeder was built around the chassis of a British Bond Bug.

ray_afraid said:

LexX said:

Well, he might have been on the other side of the moon for all we know.

Maybe? But it doesn’t make visual sense. You shouldn’t have to rationalize it.

You also shouldn’t think about it at all.

There must be more Imperial garrisons than that one platform.

Why? They’re just protecting the shield generator.
Why would they need platforms on the other side of the planet? Why would Vader arrive there & then have to travel all the way around the entire planet to get where he was trying to go? He knew what the Rebels were up to & about where they’d be.

Because the Emperor said there was an entire legion waiting for the rebels and that was the entire plan. There were walkers, speeder bikes and even the scout trooper said there was a base. It wouldn’t be that far fetched that Vader was giving latest info on the rebels or something before meeting Luke if you have to wonder where he came from in the first place.

LexX said:

ray_afraid said:

LexX said:

Well, he might have been on the other side of the moon for all we know.

Maybe? But it doesn’t make visual sense. You shouldn’t have to rationalize it.

You also shouldn’t think about it at all.

Wrong. “Turn your brain off & don’t think about it” is always terrible advice.

I’d say that the whole “turn your brain off” kind of has to be applied to a lot of sci-fi and especially fantasy (and SW is obviously both), otherwise you wouldn’t have much of a story at all. As long as it’s balanced, and the whole narrative itself makes sense, then I think it’s ok to stretch your suspension of disbelief or bend the rules a little. I mean ESB, though generally considered the best SW films, really is the most nonsensical one of them all. The continuity of that film is a complete mess if you try to make sense of it (at face value anyway), and some scenes breaks physics even by SW standards. But, it all makes sense as a dramatic narrative and that’s what makes it a good film and justifies all the weird logic IMO.

ZkinandBonez said:

I’d say that the whole “turn your brain off” kind of has to be applied to a lot of sci-fi and especially fantasy (and SW is obviously both), otherwise you wouldn’t have much of a story at all. As long as it’s balanced, and the whole narrative itself makes sense, then I think it’s ok to stretch your suspension of disbelief or bend the rules a little. I mean ESB, though generally considered the best SW films, really is the most nonsensical one of them all. The continuity of that film is a complete mess if you try to make sense of it (at face value anyway), and some scenes breaks physics even by SW standards. But, it all makes sense as a dramatic narrative and that’s what makes it a good film and justifies all the weird logic IMO.

You don’t have to turn your brain off to suspend belief.
Something can be fantastical & even silly while still making sense within it’s own context.
This is a very different topic though.

So anyway, yeah, never noticed that Luke claims Vader is on the moon before he arrives.
Neat bit of trivia & a welcome contender for a Revisited change.

ray_afraid said:

So anyway, yeah, never noticed that Luke claims Vader is on the moon before he arrives.

ray_afraid said:

Wrong. “Turn your brain off & don’t think about it” is always terrible advice.

So pic one.

LexX said:

ray_afraid said:

So anyway, yeah, never noticed that Luke claims Vader is on the moon before he arrives.

ray_afraid said:

Wrong. “Turn your brain off & don’t think about it” is always terrible advice.

So pic one.

It’s just something I never noticed. I haven’t caught every detail.
So what?

ray_afraid said:

LexX said:

ray_afraid said:

So anyway, yeah, never noticed that Luke claims Vader is on the moon before he arrives.

ray_afraid said:

Wrong. “Turn your brain off & don’t think about it” is always terrible advice.

So pic one.

It’s just something I never noticed. I haven’t caught every detail.
So what?

LexX said:

You also shouldn’t think about it at all.

So please stop posting when you’re just trying to cause arguments on every thread as it seems.

LexX said:

ray_afraid said:

LexX said:

ray_afraid said:

So anyway, yeah, never noticed that Luke claims Vader is on the moon before he arrives.

ray_afraid said:

Wrong. “Turn your brain off & don’t think about it” is always terrible advice.

So pic one.

It’s just something I never noticed. I haven’t caught every detail.
So what?

LexX said:

You also shouldn’t think about it at all.

So please stop posting when you’re just trying to cause arguments on every thread as it seems.

You’ve got no point & I’m not starting arguments, but contributing to a conversation. A conversation that the others involved with don’t seem to be pissy about.

I encourage you to go through my post history & point out to the mods where I’m starting arguments.

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Re-watching the Wampa scene I noticed that you can see a shadow move across the cave wall. I guess because of the SE (first version I saw as a kid) is just always assumed that it was eating the Tauntaun off-screen, but it seems like in the original version the implication was that it was wandering around. Or perhaps there were meant to be several of them in the cave.

https://youtu.be/B6o2WX4crxg?t=50

At the beginning of this shot in ROTJ you can see Luke, Chewie, and Threepio hitching a ride to the shuttle.

Broom Kid said:

Oh wow. How many times have I seen that movie and never EVER noticed that. That’s great.

Same here. 😄

oojason said:

Another reason why some of the changes made for the 1997 Special Editions make no sense; especially for Star Wars…
 

The Death Star has a clear line of fire for the Rebel Base on Yavin IV (which was added into the scene for the 1997 SE) - even before the Rebels begin their attack:-

 
More information on this can be found here:-

https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp/status/1247555654883127296

& https://www.wired.com/story/put-original-star-wars-on-disney-plus
 

All credit to doubleofive 👍
 

My mind is blown! Kudos to 005 😃

I’d love to hear an explanation from Lucas or Lucasfilm for that change!

V.I.N.Cent said:

oojason said:

Another reason why some of the changes made for the 1997 Special Editions make no sense; especially for Star Wars…
 

The Death Star has a clear line of fire for the Rebel Base on Yavin IV (which was added into the scene for the 1997 SE) - even before the Rebels begin their attack:-

 
More information on this can be found here:-

https://twitter.com/StarWarsVisComp/status/1247555654883127296

& https://www.wired.com/story/put-original-star-wars-on-disney-plus
 

All credit to doubleofive 👍
 

My mind is blown! Kudos to 005 😃

I’d love to hear an explanation from Lucas or Lucasfilm for that change!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzApL8nUyT0&t=9m6s

“More visually dynamic”, “they’re fun”, “[GL] feels so happy about that”.

I think he meant, why did they add Yavin 4 to the background of the shot? Didn’t they know that would cause a huge continuity error? Then again, the people who made the Special Editions didn’t seem to pay much attention to continuity.