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#1158953
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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dahmage said:

Warbler said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Warbler said:

adywan said:

Warbler said:

adywan said:

Warbler said:

adywan said:

Warbler said:

  1. the minor interaction with surroundings we see in ROTJ don’t matter near as much as finding out that force ghost Obiwan and Yoda maybe could have appeared before the Emperor and Vader and zapped them.

But Yoda didn’t just zap the tree out of thin air like the force lighting the Emperor uses. This has already been explained to you.

Whatever you want to call it, it sure would have been nice if had used it on the Emperor in ROTJ after Yoda died.

Please point me to the scene in the Emperors throne room where there were storm clouds over head so we could have had the same lightning and then i’d agree with you.

He needs storm clouds? That is never explained. What if in a future movie a force user does it without storm clouds, then can I ask why force ghost Yoda doesn’t zap the Emperor in ROTJ?

The fact that there are storm clouds coming in overhead and the lightning comes from those clouds that we clearly see in the film, isn’t enough to explain where the lightning comes from? What more did you need? Ric Olie suddenly popping his head from behind a rock to explain where it came from? 😉

We are talking about the force here, he doesn’t necessarily need storm clouds.

Says who? Where is this explained in a movie?

the movie never said he required storm clouds. For all know, he doesn’t need them.

Do you even know what point you’re trying to make now cuz I certainly don’t anymore.

The point he’s trying to make is there are inconsistencies he finds in the film, but he chooses not to accept any information to explain those inconsistencies other than the film itself. So any explanation we give is invalid if the movie doesn’t irrefutably corroborate it.

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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Warbler said:

  1. You can either offer an explanation to make it make sense or you can take it out of the movie.

Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

yotsuya said:

How is Leia a princess?

When a prince and a woman love each other very much, they get “married” and the woman becomes a princess.

Actually, Leia is a princess because her adoptive mother was a queen.

It is not explained in the films. But as has been said, Warb, just because something is left unexplained does not mean it is unexplainable. Before you call out TLJ for not explaining things you wish it had, I suggest you read the novel because it might answer those questions.

again, [explanations] aren’t canon.

If it’s not in the movie, then you apparently don’t accept it as canon. If you don’t accept novels as canon, you also won’t accept our explanation as canon. If you don’t accept our explanation as canon, and you only accept canon, then why do you want explanation?

If you only want to complain because there is no in-film explanation, then that’s your own fault for not accepting external sources of information as relevant. You choose to not accept them.

It is not the movie’s fault. It is by your own choice.

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#1158895
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

We don’t need to have everything explained by the film. There are other non-film sources with which to draw on for relevant information to people who would care.

Those other sources aren’t canon.

And why do you need an officially-canon explanation? Why are explanations for things subject to the whims of the production studio? Lucas at one point said The Force Unleashed video games were canon. I don’t know if they still are. And recently the powers-that-be said The Clone Wars tv show is canon. But all of the once-EU-now-Legends material is considered worthless for giving in-film events explanation or backstory?

If you so desire explanation for why something works the way it does or why an apparent inconsistency has occurred, why do you only accept the official answer given by the studio in the form of film rather than working it out with other hardcore fans (including book authors) to come to a conclusion that makes sense to you?

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#1158879
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Warbler said:

chyron8472 said:

We don’t need to have everything explained by the film. There are other non-film sources with which to draw on for relevant information to people who would care.

Those other sources aren’t canon.

Then why do you care? Why do you want the film itself, by itself without external sources, to explain everything when the film is already over two and a half hours long?

Most viewers don’t need characters to exposit information only relevent to the hardcore fandom. Especially when this is fantasy, not science-fiction.

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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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TV’s Frink said:

yotsuya said:

How is Leia a princess?

When a prince and a woman love each other very much, they get “married” and the woman becomes a princess.

Actually, Leia is a princess because her adoptive mother was a queen.

It is not explained in the films. But as has been said, Warb, just because something is left unexplained does not mean it is unexplainable. Before you call out TLJ for not explaining things you wish it had, I suggest you read the novel because it might answer those questions.

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#1158861
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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We don’t need to have everything explained by the film. There are other non-film sources with which to draw on for relevant information to people who would care.

TFA as a film doesn’t explicitly explain how the Starkiller Base weapon works or why the explosion could be seen from outside Maz Kanata’s castle. The novel does. ROTJ doesn’t explain how Leia obtained a costume impersonating Boushh; or why Lando, the droids, Leia and Luke arrived at Jabba’s Palace separately.

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#1158767
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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dahmage said:

chyron8472 said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Also, its all made up stuff anyway.

I’m sorry, but there is no reason to say this.

  1. we all know that

  2. that could excuse any continuity error/plot hole in any fiction.

  3. it being true, doesn’t mean the fiction universe shouldn’t make sense.

  4. its lame to say it

thanks for continuing to focus on something that wasn’t even the point…

You’re welcome. But even if it was a joke, it wasn’t a very good one.

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#1158764
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Ask the member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints AKA Interrogate the Mormon
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moviefreakedmind said:

There’s a lot of tolerance and respect for the alt-right interestingly enough.

There is? I thought most people consider them the modern-day KKK or a subsect/rebranding of neo-nazism or something. That is, the alt-right loves Trump and most people think Trump supporters are dumber than a wet fart.

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#1158618
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Ask the member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints AKA Interrogate the Mormon
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moviefreakedmind said:

darth_ender said:

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

Is it a requirement?

I was commenting on the recent conversation.

Your comments don’t describe me. I’m not bigoted and I never have claimed to carry a banner of tolerance. I don’t understand why you could possibly think of me as being proudly tolerant but there’s plenty of things I don’t understand.

Definition of bigotry

While we’re at it, we could also look at the bolded sentence and research the term oxymoron.

you seem to be under the impression that beliefs themselves somehow have the right to be respected and appreciated. I don’t think that.

I’m tolerant in that I accept that people can do and believe what they want

You don’t find those statements in conflict?

It is my impression that the word “tolerance”, as defined by the left, means that people are not only allowed to do and believe what they want, but also are allotted some measure of respect regarding their opinions or beliefs despite disagreement. A valid issue I see the right having with the left wielding that banner is that the left seems to be selective of which beliefs or opinions need be tolerated or respected.

That isn’t to say I take any position defending alt-righters who think mutual respect for one’s fellow man is a laughable farce of political correctness. I don’t. My position is that the left, not you personally MFM, is hypocritical for carrying the banner of tolerance when they only do it when it suits them.

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#1158153
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Which franchise is bigger and more iconic Star Wars or Harry Potter
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Mike O said:

What is the “Kurtz version?

Gary Kurtz, co-producer of Star Wars and TESB, wanted ROTJ to end on a bittersweet, poignant tone. Were Lucas not to have intervened and changed the story to be more fun and have a happy ending, among other things Han Solo would have died a sacrificial death for his friends (and completed his character arc from a selfish scoundrel to a loyal hero), there would have been no second Death Star, and also no Ewok Celebration (or “teddy bear picnic” as Harrison Ford put it).

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#1158149
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Which franchise is bigger and more iconic Star Wars or Harry Potter
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ZigZig said:

Anyway, Star Wars and Harry Potter share the same villain: Snoke aka Voldemort.

What?? o.O

Okay, Voldemort is a narcissistic psychopath. Not the cultural trope usage of the word—a literal DSM5-definition psychopath. He’s not merely evil; he literally can not form emotional attachments with anyone, and he has no conscience whatsoever. Plus, he succeeded in splitting his soul such that he can not be killed. And only a single person, by virtue of being singled out by Voldemort himself, was capable of killing him.

Snoke is a stereotypically mustache-twirling bad guy. He’s just similar in that he’s been CGI’d.

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#1158133
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I watched TLJ again tonight, and my wife and I had a funny moment during the film.

To give some backstory to this moment, my wife and I have watched the recent My Little Pony:FiM cartoons with our daughter several times. During one of the Halloween episodes, there is a character in the episode wearing a silly clown costume who attempts to talk to the little kids in a scary and spooky way, but another character turns and says “ugh. The rainbow wig just kills it for me.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L021arfz-CA&t=25s

I had previously had a discussion with my wife about how I didn’t really like the Holdo character because her appearance made me think she would have looked more at home in The Hunger Games rather than in Star Wars. Well, during the film this time, after Holdo first appeared on screen, my wife turns to me and says “The purple hair just kills it for me.”

I laughed. I will always remember her saying that whenever I see Holdo in the film from now on.

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#1158130
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Saw TLJ again tonight. I felt compelled to watch it again because my mother-in-law, who only likes Star Wars just okay, and really isn’t into watching movies in general much, had already seen it twice and I myself only once. So I felt my “Star Wars nerd cred” was being threatened to some degree if I hadn’t seen it in theatres again.

It was still fantastic. In fact, I liked Holdo better now than I had previously. And knowing in advance about the twists in the plot didn’t lessen my appreciation for the film or those scenes.

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#1157320
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Before this becomes a thing (invites to Blutopia)
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dahmage said:

Density said:

TV’s Frink said:

I have no idea what this thread is, why it needs to be, or why I should care. And I don’t.

It’s almost like you could just… not comment then or something. Weird, I know. But it IS actually possible to simply ignore things you don’t care about or understand and move on with your life without chiming in about every single fucking thing to tell the world how little you care about it. You see, no one cares if you don’t care, so you needn’t feel compelled to let everyone know. Seems like you’re carrying around a heavy burden, feeling the need to leave a snarky comment on every single thread regardless of what it’s about or how pointless and annoying your comment is. Please rest assured, you can let go of that responsibility and everyone will be just fine.

more irony eh? you also couldn’t resist. and here i am, unable to resist. we are all just suckers ehh?

He has a point though.

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