Tobar

adywan said:

well the way the holograms were done in the OT was that they filmed the actors against the bluescreen then played that footage on a colour CRT TV which gave the hologram effect. Now for the Pt they used a computer to add the holo FX which gave them a better quality and more modern feel. so for the Pt i will be going back to the original process to redo the holograms so they have that OT feel

THANK YOU! I was planning on suggesting you do that when the time came for work on the prequels. =D

Jedi Dark Knight said:

adywan said:

The holograms in the PT are going to be downgraded and visually match the OT, maybe even lower tech because after all the Pt shouldn't be so much more hi-tech than the OT when its set in the past. And the " its a much more prosperous time" excuse is just lame. Our world has been in much more prosperous times but our technology is more advanced now than it ever was. cockpits, displays and even some ships will have a complete OT overhaul in the PT

I didn't see anything overly special about the holograms in the PT, they were all bluish and very similar to the ones in the OT, the only hologram to stand out in the entire saga is the Leia message because it is in color, all others are bluish, even in the PT. 100% agreed about the lame excuse that "it is a much more prosperous time" it just doesn't match, it can go 2 ways: overhaul the OT to match the PT *screens, holograms and Hi-tech (something you have said you won't do) OR downgrade the PT to match the OT (something I sense goes more to your liking) but as you say they can't stay like that.

 

Luke's hologram in ROTJ is in color as are the holochess game pieces in ANH and the attack plans on the Deathstar II. The general theme is that all communication holograms are in blue while prerecorded ones are in color. Which is why it has always annoyed me that the attack plans in TPM for the palace are all blue with a single red line.

Ripplin said:

OBtwosy said:

asterisk8:  I always just assumed many of the windows in cloud city were openings in the walls and not glass enclosed windows.  Funny how when you think you see something as a kid you just assume it as you go forward

It's pretty easy to get around a lot of that stuff in sci-fi. It can either have a force field instead of glass...

...or transparent aluminum! ;)

"Hello, Computer..."

 

Heh, for the Star Wars universe it would be transparisteel. =P

Blown away with how much better the new Emperor hood looks. I almost would suspect you of using some Sith magic Ady. =P The only thing I think would enhance this hologram further would be to have his eyes glow a little more to add to the creepiness.

Hey Happy Star Wars Day everybody! May the Fourth Be With You.... =P

ABC said:

Beatho said:

... if anyones knows where I can get more of this track I would be eternally thankful!

 Mwwhaahahaaa ! ... Hahem... Sorry ! That sounds like a covenant... Beware !

 

Yeah, could be a Wookiee life debt or worse....a Gungan one! =P

adywan said:

Tobar said:

adywan said:

with all the talk of the skies when Luke approaches Bespin i thought it would be best if i posted a screenshot of my version. Again this shot has full video motion clouds so you can't really get a sense of what the finished shot will be like until you see it in motion, plus the x-wing is missing

 

Love this, so beautiful! Hey Ady do you ever look at the scripts to see if there are any visual descriptions that were never fully implemented into the final movie that you could bring to life? I bring this up because I was looking for quotes about Cloud City and found this in the script:

EXTERIOR: BESPIN SURFACE -- MILLENNIUM FALCON

It is down on the gaseous planet. Huge billowing clouds
form a canyon as the ship banks around them, heading toward
the system's Cloud City.
Suddenly, two twin-pod cloud cars appear and move toward
the Falcon. The cloud cars draw up alongside the starship.

 After I read that I remembered that shot above and thought how perfectly that fit the description for the earlier scene.

i haven't got the Star Wars scripts unfortunately but i would be interesting to read the descriptions for the scenes.

Here's a good site for most of them.

Nice, can't believe(or wait) it's just three weeks until the big trailer! =D

Sweeeeeeet......

This is awesome! Thanks so much g-force, ANH looks so great now! Hopefully I can find the time to do ESB now.

Thanks for the guide! I didn't think I would be able to do it, but I did! It looks great on my flatscreen. I don't know if I installed the ff3tw.dll correctly though. Are you supposed to stick the whole folder into system32? I didn't get any errors during encoding what part of the process does that dll do?

Just watched Twilight of the Republic the other night. I loved it! There's just one minor thing that I'm hoping you can fix for the dvd release and this is something that's been an error in the movie from the beginning. In the opening scroll it says thousands of solar systems have left the Republic. In actuality we only call our own system the solar system, all others are called star systems. Just like in ANH when Leia said, "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

adywan said:

with all the talk of the skies when Luke approaches Bespin i thought it would be best if i posted a screenshot of my version. Again this shot has full video motion clouds so you can't really get a sense of what the finished shot will be like until you see it in motion, plus the x-wing is missing

Love this, so beautiful! Hey Ady do you ever look at the scripts to see if there are any visual descriptions that were never fully implemented into the final movie that you could bring to life? I bring this up because I was looking for quotes about Cloud City and found this in the script:

EXTERIOR: BESPIN SURFACE -- MILLENNIUM FALCON

It is down on the gaseous planet. Huge billowing clouds
form a canyon as the ship banks around them, heading toward
the system's Cloud City.
Suddenly, two twin-pod cloud cars appear and move toward
the Falcon. The cloud cars draw up alongside the starship.

 After I read that I remembered that shot above and thought how perfectly that fit the description for the earlier scene.

This is interesting, just stumbled upon it in an interview about the audio for the new Indiana Jones game:

The soundtrack is composed of about 40 minutes of brand new tracks created by Gordy Haab and Ray Harman. The rest of it (hours of it) is made up of never-before-heard music from the days of Raiders and Temple of Doom. We wanted to keep the feel of the old movies, but we didn't want to beat you over the head with the old music. It strikes a great balance.

Source

Ripplin said:

adywan said:

Now i had spent 5 days working on  the new moving  matte shot of Luke's approach and had just finished it and i loved it until i saw this suggestion.  i've now gone back and had to change most of the elements and start from scratch because i like this idea ...but the finished shot is 1000% better than it originally was.

Wow, how 'bout that? :) Any chance we could see the original shot somehow? If not now, then maybe as a DVD extra? Or in a making-of documentary-type situation? :)

That would be cool to see!

Has anyone tried combining the PCM audio with g-force's image stabilization and putting them on a DVD-9 with the original menus?

adywan said:

oh yeh. i've also added the "jedi ghost" glow to the scene where Obi-Wan appears to Luke on Hoth.

 

Hmm, I dunno. I always thought that his first appearance was more like a vision than an actual manifestation. It leaves the viewer wondering if Luke was hallucinating or not.

DarthBo said:

it's nice to see the mockups, but personally, I'd leave it the way it was.

Yeah I'm fine with it just the way it is. I also like the Darth Vader hologram as is.

ChainsawAsh said:

AxiaEuxine said:

Kurtyboy said:

My only complaint is that the Vader helmet is the horrible symetrical ROTS version. The ESB Vader helmet is FAR superior :)

Let me guess this straight, you'd rather have a lopsided helmet with mistakes in it becuase they couldn't make a symetrical one in the beforetime than one that was constructed with superior techniques and doesnt look like it was made in a garage??

Just because the new one was made with "superior techniques" doesn't mean it's better.  I happen to think it looks like shit, and agree that the ESB helmet was the best in all 4 films that feature Vader.  SW's looks a little strange to me somehow (it feels a little small in some scenes), and ROTJ's was *too* shiny and reflective.  But ESB had a perfect balance of all of those.

ROTS's looks, as someone else mentioned, like it was made by a fan for a Halloween costume.

Yeah, can't stand the ROTS helmet. I actually like the SW Vader the best, I dunno why maybe it's the red lenses. =P Did you know David Prowse wanted to reprise the role for ROTS but ol' Lucas decided to let Hayden don the suit.

They'd cover up too much of the action though. I think the cockpits are fine as they are.

mrbenja0618 said:

Tobar said:

Yeah I'm in the Aurebesh camp.

 

I vote no english. The one change I loved about A New Hope SE was that they changed the english wording on the tractor beam to the aurebesh titles.

Oh I wasn't saying anything about its use in the movie. I was just saying that I'm with those that call it Aurebesh. I like the fact that we never knew exactly what Artoo was saying. Left it up to the imagination, I look forward to seeing what Ady has cooked up though. =P

Yeah I'm in the Aurebesh camp.

Wow, stumbled onto these edits tonight. Only had a chance to see Attack of the Federation. I really like what you've done here. It makes Episode I pretty enjoyable. Just a couple things I thought were weird though, the scroll is blue now? Felt very strange to me. Also, you changed Watto's subtitles to make him more mean toward Anakin but in doing that you created a continuity error when you have him going back to work but then in the next scene he's fighting another kid he was playing with. Keeping Watto letting Anakin go home early would fix that. The other thing is the Podrace felt kind of strange with no music. I know that in the original movie Ben Burtt got George to leave most of the race without music but this new cut feels like it should have music going on through most of it. There must be some unused Williams score that could be readded to the film.

Overall though I really enjoyed this cut of the film. Especially liked Jar Jar's line change ("A little help here would be nice.") That sounded seamless! Where'd you get that soundbyte? Anyway, I look forward to watching Twilight of the Republic tomorrow. =)