Space Hunter M

German dubs very often change things here or there to "improve" the script they're given to work with, and the voice acting is usually pretty dang good. There are plenty of examples in the Godzilla films where the German dub is superior in most regards. I'm pretty sure the guy who dubbed Luke in the original films is in one of those actually.

TV's Frink said:

This clip is fairly complete, although I still need to replace some sound where I cut out Greivous coughing, wheezing, etc.  What a pain in my ass, thanks Lucas!  Anyway, I'd like some feedback on two items:

1) Starting with the lightsaber fight and ending with Obi getting on his luck dragon, I cut out several beats in order to shorten things up.  Does it work from a flow/geography standpoint?

2) Does it work removing the sound entirely and replacing with just the song?

http://vimeo.com/117725198

 The Star Wars arcade game joke at the end made me laugh.

I've encountered this sort of phenomenon in other works. The foreign negative of The Mysterians (1957) has the same type of added/deleted/retained frame count stuff around a number of special effects composites (which are noticeably more transparent compared to the domestic negative).

Excited that it's all coming together.

Star Wars has like six Japanese dubs IIRC.

I prefer the mono version myself. I enjoy most of the changes that were also carried into international mixes.

team_negative1 said:

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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3IJQXwah0E

The Neimoidian voices remind me of the dubs Titra/Titan Productions did for Asian genre films.

Or this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeuL1C3peRc

Needs moar Vivaldi music.

The Clone Whores.

Ah, the joy of hoarding.

Never knew he dubbed the rest.

Oh, interesting. Thought somebody here would do this. I remember watching a few of the U.S. Ringo dubs on tape a looong time ago.

I was merely straying off topic to mention that yes, the TohoScope Showa films were cropped to 16:9 in the UK for video.

The Heisei films were physically shot hard matted to something like 1.66:1 I believe. I have an Italian copy of Biollante that reveals a bit more of the top and bottom though, so there's all sorts of special effects optical leakage.

There's at least one European tape of The Return of Godzilla's international dub that is over framed in a similar way. You can also see the telecine operator adjust the framing on the Carlton tape during the first reel of that film.

All of the UK Godzilla tapes released by 4Front and Carlton were cropped to 1.78:1.

FrankT said:

Catchy name. It'll catch on!

 You catch on pretty quick!

Watch by adjusted for inflation box office gross.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=starwars.htm

Awakens the Force Does.

The Blu-Ray surprisingly included the mono mix, so my project is redundant (but still useful, though it's a bit technical). Version 2.0 of KKvsG is still in progress now that so much previously LD quality footage has finally been rescanned.

http://www.crackle.com/c/godzilla-2000

It's Sony's streaming website. Upon closer inspection, the Crackle version seems to be from the same master as the DVD.

The Crackle version seems to be the same as the HDTV (which might even be the DVD's HD master since so many of the color changes are the same). Now, if only somebody could somehow extract the 480p rtmp encrypted video from there. There's also an  Australian DVD by Madman of the U.S. version that might use the HDTV master.

Godzilla 2000, the last theatrically released Japanese film in the series is no stranger to bizarre revisionism. When it was brought to DVD, per Toho's request, the cheesy THE ? END title was deleted, but the color seems to have also been changed significantly. The U.S. theatrical version (or something much closer to it) is available on the screener and Spanish subtitled tapes. Note that the Japanese version has always looked pretty different on its own, but the "theatrical" coloring is closer to it.

Some examples:

U.S. theatrical version

DVD. A lot of the composites suffer from the new grading.

So much of the greens are missing from this version. Oddly, the DVD removes a lot of the blue and orange contrast displayed in a lot of scenes.

Blu-Ray. A lot of the greens are back in full force, but at the same time, some very questionable coloring changes have been made, particularly in the reds and oranges.

U.S. HDTV/Streaming version

Blu-Ray

Then you have completely oddball, nonsensical alterations, like this particularly infamous CGI shot:

Godzilla IS comprised of green and dark purple in this movie, but Jesus Christ, he looks like Barney on the Blu-Ray...

A few more restored greens on the Blu-Ray, such as this shot.

Bottom line, the Blu-Ray improves on some things the DVD screwed up, while introducing a host of new problems. The HDTV version is the way to go I guess.

Maybe I strongly worded my response. I didn't mean to personally insult anyone, but dubbing is undeservingly scorned enough as it is. Seven Samurai also had a dub, but IIRC Toho actually destroyed all of the prints that had it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is9d_Um0sdw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnbh23UM1F8

I dubbed the uncut 96 minute version of the fi<span style=“text-decoration: line-through;”>r</span>st Godzilla movie into English using the original music and effects track and the voice talent of Stephen Hawking.

There is an MKV available on Cinemageddon and a Criterion DVD9 syncable .ac3 at 192kbps (PM for this).

TV's Frink said:

Space Hunter M said:

Since when have there been English dubs of Kurosawa films?

Since when they were fist released in the states you pretentious schmucks. I thought this crowd cared about alternate versions and such.

 I have no interest in the fist release thank you very much.

 See, dubbing makes people illiterate.