The new master is not an upscale. It’s just Warner’s typical aggressive handling of their animated catalog that became the norm around 2019.
Further observations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=512YgC0Iimw
I firmly believe the older edit is the theatrical one because of its presence in the Shochiku Home Video LD, a release known to be made with a theatrical element with stuff like cue marks and the MPAA card.
Gotta wonder which is more theatrically accurate
Cause it’s possible the print used for the initial VHS was altered
The audio is conformed to the older edit.
Releases of Blue Velvet prior to the MGM restorations contain a slight editing difference during the opening sequence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzT3v-E6xtc
The old edit is present on the '87 Karl-Lorimar VHS and LD, the '90 Warner VHS, and presumably, in widescreen (2:1, not 2.35:1) on the '91 and '93 Warner LDs.
There are also some slight differences across various releases as to how the flashback shots of Frank/the “Well-Dressed Man” are handled:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7NCVDjl51k
I feel these differences are worth cataloging and preserving, and all three domestic LDs are going for dirt cheap on eBay, but alas, I do not own a player and my captures would be lousy in comparison to other individuals’ efforts anyway. There is also a UK DVD of an older master that I have yet to investigate.
I’d like a link please.
I saw that you posted some clips with the Cantonese version of the export cut on your channel. Were you able to locate the vhs or did you do a reconstruction of the audio?
The audio from the VHS was eventually given to me by the legendary ButcherWing.
The laserdisc and DVD share literally the exact same master. I don’t know where these censorship allegations came from.
https://twitter.com/williamfriedkin/status/495446944496377856?lang=es The director disapprove the tv cut
Friedkin is saying it’s a master made for TV and home video exhibition i.e. 4:3 with video generated location titles during the vignettes. There is no censorship and the audio is the theatrical mix.
Here is audiovisual proof.
https://streamable.com/57p63w
There is no need for a wild goose chase for the LD version.
The laserdisc and DVD share literally the exact same master. I don’t know where these censorship allegations came from.
Here’s the guy’s description of the alleged cut scene from “The Dynamic Scooby-Doo Affair”:
One of the most interesting pieces of dialogue, between Batman and Velma was actually edited out, both on the currently playing version, and the DVD!
Something about counterfeiting “undermin[ing] the national economy”, and that “for the same of world stability, we must capture this criminal here and now”.
It is hard to determine where exactly this sequence was. The editing was very good. It was when they first followed the hooded man into the toy warehouse. IIRC, Batman opens the hatch, and then goes up alone, and then brings the others. I try to listen to the background music to tell where something was cut out. It was probably during the next blackout (or “batout”) after which they begin following him in the warehouse.Of course, this could just be an incorrect memory of his. I could buy that 1-2 minutes were cut, because the episodes as shown on TV are short enough to show with ads and still run a 7-minute filler cartoon afterward. About 10 years ago, I mentioned this on ToonZone and someone said they had a 16mm print, with ads, and it ran 55 minutes - still shorter, but not AS short. The extra time was originally filled by CBS’ “In the News”.
Unfortunately, the cover of the Kids Klassics tape says “The Caped Crusader Caper”, so this episode likely never had had a video release before the 2000s VHS/DVD. (But if his claim is true, it could also contain extra scenes.)
Anybody got any USA Cartoon Express airings? They may have answers.
BUMP
This scene has surfaced from an '80s local syndication airing and is available in its original 480i DVD-R on a certain filesharing organ.
Here is the scene in full: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Zv-Z29Pl0
Audio for A Night of Fright is No Delight and A Tiki Scare is No Fair has surfaced.
Does anyone have one of the DVDs with the 5.1 mix of the German dub? I’d like to find out if there’s any legitimate multichannel usage of the music and effects track or if it’s just a crappy faked upmix.
Audio for Scooby Doo and a Mummy Too, Go Away Ghost Ship, Spooky Space Kook, That’s Snow Ghost, Mystery Mask Mix-Up, and Don’t Fool With a Phantom has surfaced.
I tried Doctor M’s old guide from a decade ago, and I just can’t get the damn program to do its job.
Can anyone with a better hand in this direct me to a more reliable, still freeware option, or just do the upmixing themselves? I’ll gladly send the raw .ac3 I want upmixed. Thanks.
Could you re-rip .VOB #2 from the Reloaded disc? It’s corrupted in the .ISO. Thanks!
I’m interested! Sign me up for this! I’ll PM you.
I think a prime Eastman mono print would have been the way I personally would love to see it. The mono mix is so much more sonically alive to me than the Dolby and 70mm versions
I absolutely adore the mono version. It’s my preferred mix of the film. I’d love to hear it booming in an actual theater.
I also second the notion that a fully 35mm sourced version of it is one of the last “holy grails” of the OT for me. The Belcubus and Puggo/Jaxxon presentations are nice, but both have their limitations (being sourced from TV airings and 16mm optical, respectively).
I think the Technidisc was the best presentation of the original film on domestic U.S. LD just in terms of integrity.
It’s way more honest about its source material than the Definitive Collection transfer, and obviously a major improvement over the SWE/ISR.
It’s worth noting that foreign releases like the original German DVD appear to be built around the 1990 restoration and have the 1947 interstitial footage in 576i (the animated footage coming from the 2000 master). The Deems Taylor intro, as per most foreign, versions is not included, however.
Screenshots from an .avi of the German DVD I downloaded:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/y3ne5q9s/eb004977/
OFDb also says the Australian DVD has a 114 minute runtime (117 @ NTSC): https://ssl.ofdb.de/view.php?page=fassung&fid=9609&vid=83007
All of the official 5.1 remixes of Police Story (1985) are a joke.
Improperly mixed and muffled sounding dialogue in the Media Asia mix, crappy new stock sound effects in the Fortune Star DVD mix, and even crappier ones in the Fortune Star 4K mix.
Thankfully a more tasteful fan 5.1 mix by IcePrick exists.
Pardon me for asking (backtracking the thread is a bit daunting), but is there anything different about the way the audio is mixed itself? I am aware of some of the the actual changes.
Anyone know if this is one of those mixes with all but no music in the center channel?
http://fd.noneinc.com/Theater_Performance/1977-Catnap-1.html
Anybody still have the full VIDEO_TS of the Catnap bootleg?
I have a low quality x264 but it’s been aggressively deinterlaced and the detail suffers pretty heavily.
Audio for Decoy for a Dognapper, Bedlam in the Big Top, and Jeepers, it’s the Creeper has surfaced.
So, despite early info claiming otherwise, it looks like the Criterion Showa Era set will include the Japanese cut of KKvG!
Copy and pasted from the official site:www.criterion.com/boxsets/2648-godzilla-the-showa-era-films-1954-1975 said:
- High-definition digital transfers of Godzilla, King of the Monsters, the 1956 U.S.-release version of Godzilla; and the 1962 Japanese-release version of King Kong vs. Godzilla
Will this be from the same source as this broadcast? Better? Worse?
Really excited for this set.
No, Criterion explicitly stated upon inquiry that the 4K restoration is decidedly NOT what is being used.
From a Blu-Ray.com thread: “Both the KING KONG VS. GODZILLA and GODZILLA, KING OF MONSTERS will include the Japanese and US versions. All fifteen films in this set are high-definition digital transfers. We are working closely with Toho on this release and the 4K remaster you’re referencing was not something that was provided to us for this.”
Have fun with the ugly 2014 BD version America.
With a glorious thanks to Akaiii, I have made a decent x264 encode of this and distributed it to MySpleen and Cinemageddon. I have synced all available audio mixes (plus isolated score) and a legitimate subtitle translation to create the definitive version of this marvelous film in the English-speaking world. I hope that this attempt is proliferated for years to come until the film is given a proper release in the aforementioned English-speaking world.
I have a .ts of this. If anyone wants a copy, throw me a PM.
Sent you a PM.
A reply, over 2 years later, awesome!
Still interested in this, what’s the FPS and running time (how was it converted from NTSC to PAL)? Thanks.
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