Sevb32

Right and it's also nobody would hate the Special Editions if they were the first ones shown to people. You can't hate something if you've never known any alternatives.

Why change all these to white now? Geez. So you are lobbying to retro change all lightsabers to white, simply because  it's cliched.  Cliches aren't always a bad thing either. Let's make Vader's suir all white while we're at it. Goes against villains in black cliche. Let's make the light side evil and the dark side good.

How about holding every SW poster in history with an ignited lightsaber to the "ruler" test.

You guys are really anal about things. So far there have been blue & green for the Jedi (Mace Windu the only seen exception with the purple) and Sith or darksiders have red. I've never seen an orange or yellow lightsaber in the films. I would think most people would hate all the sabers just being plain white. I think the vast majority of the SW fanbase is with me on this and casual fans in general. What makes it cliched to have differing colors of lightsabers? It was already seen with Luke having blue and green and Vader having red in the originals. What does the color of a lightsaber have to do with writing?

Anchorhead said:

Sevb32 said:

Anchorhead said:

Luke's uniform is the first thing I've been disappointed in with the new film. It feels like a continuation of Lucas's inability to write. 

 And I'm sure someone else would be disappointed if it was otherwise. They can't F'n please everyone. WTF does it have to do with writing anyway? And last I looked Lucas didn't write it.

 Correct. Lucas didn't write it.  He did, however, write the continuation of the Jedis for the prequels, 20 years after the 1977 film.  Considering they were the guardians of peace for the galaxy, it seems poorly written to have them all dressed as farmers from a nearly deserted and extremely remote planet.

That's WTF it has to do with the writing.  

 But that's all subjective opinion, not factual on whether it's good or bad writing. GEEZ

Anchorhead said:

Luke's uniform is the first thing I've been disappointed in with the new film. It feels like a continuation of Lucas's inability to write. 

 And I'm sure someone else would be disappointed if it was otherwise. They can't F'n please everyone. WTF does it have to do with writing anyway? And last I looked Lucas didn't write it.

They just cut away, doesn't mean the snap zoom won't be in the movie. That's an IMAX sequence.

John Doom said:

They still got that ugly grading. It makes me puke... :\

 I honestly can't tell, and it's not enough to bother me.

New epic shot!!! http://makingstarwars.net/2015/08/new-star-wars-the-force-awakens-korean-tv-spot-it-has-a-new-shot-of-the-first-order/

Funny, they weren't mentioned in Attack of the Clones, either. Luke implied it was hereditary by saying in ROTJ (And used in TFA trailer) "The force is strong in my family, my father has it, I have it, and my sister has it."

Apparently no one read this regarding Lando from Lawrence Kasdan.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/05/lawrence-kasdan-star-wars-force-awakens

Must we forget the Chewie- MOUSE droid scene on The Death Star that was there from the very beginning.

Abrams apologizes for much Lens Flare. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWNGMTcD_jY

It was a planet with TWO suns.  I know Joel Edgerton was 30 at the the end of ROTS putting him around 50 in ANH. Yes, they aged pretty badly, but there are people who do that it real life too. And technically AOTC was 22 years before ANH. That's an AOTC pic, not ROTS pic.

Probably will just be some background extra alien. There is room for MANY different looks of aliens in the SW Universe. Goofy, scary, cute,  horrifiying, ugly, etc, etc.

buddy-x-wing said:

to be honest, I'm not entirely sold on the creature design we've seen so far, they look a bit too 'Farscape -y'  its a big galaxy but a few familiar species wouldn't hurt

 There have been so many differing types of aliens in the SW Universe it seems almost anything would belong. I never watched Farscape anyway. I dunno what the absolute criteria is for aliens in SW anyway, if you were to judge each aliens seen in all the films thus far would they pass, why and why not? Who's to say?

RicOlie_2 said:

Keep in mind that it was Chewbacca we see in the trailer, who looks very much like the Wookie that's in every other picture we've seen.

 I'm really laughing at all of this because had their been an internet back then people would have been complaining the Chewie in 1980 ESB looked too different than the one in ANH, and ROTJ. Same goes for ROTJ as compared to those first two. You cannot clearly see Chewbacca's eyes in every scene he's in of the OT either.

I really don't see that at all. Not in the least.

How does that Chewie in the morph seem off? Different Chewie masks with differing fur patterns and slight differences were done with EP 4 thru 6. Compare all those and tell me there aren't any differences. Mayhew probably did many of sitting or close up to the face scenes. Where Chewie is walking or running, someone else stepped in.

ray_afraid said:

I don't understand why TFA Chewie's eyes slant up when in the OT they slanted down...
I've said it before, but it makes him look like he's had a face lift. I can see it even in that stupid chair.

 I can't see what you are seeing. His eyes look similar in long shots of the OT.

Reminds me some of the vintage merchandise from the late 70s and early 80s. Chewie didn't always look the same as in the movies in those renditions either. The are done in an "artful way" Probably based on production photographs.

valinkrai said:

Sevb32 said:

"I haven't gone by the name of Obi-Wan since, oh...before you were born."

I took that as meaning on a regular basis. Padme called him Obi-Wan just before she died after having the twins. He went on to live on Tatooine almost immediately after. This is about nitpicky as you can get.  The twins birth and his move to Tatooine is about the time he stopped being called Obi-Wan on reg basis.  How else could this have possibly been done to line up with what you thought it meant? Of all things to criticize, I think this is nothing.  So telling Luke he hasn't gone by that name since, oh before you were born. Is not inaccurate. Some people wanna take everything extremely literally, when people don't necessarily talk that way in real life either.

 Plus, the line really sounds as if it's supposed to give Luke an impression of how he hasn't gone by it in a long time, probably to sound a bit old and wise, and if he's being rational about it, avoiding the interest he'd get if he said "At around the same time you were born". I'd assume at this point Obi-wan is still being coy with Luke. Even taken as literal truth, he probably hadn't been introduced as Obi-wan to new people since before Luke had been born.

 Exactly.  Yes, we know it all wasn't fleshed out from the beginning. But this one works as is.

"I haven't gone by the name of Obi-Wan since, oh...before you were born."

I took that as meaning on a regular basis. Padme called him Obi-Wan just before she died after having the twins. He went on to live on Tatooine almost immediately after. This is about nitpicky as you can get.  The twins birth and his move to Tatooine is about the time he stopped being called Obi-Wan on reg basis.  How else could this have possibly been done to line up with what you thought it meant? Of all things to criticize, I think this is nothing.  So telling Luke he hasn't gone by that name since, oh before you were born. Is not inaccurate. Some people wanna take everything extremely literally, when people don't necessarily talk that way in real life either.

Yes, but I think it's fair to surmise that the human lead actors were at least portraying at least within 5 years of their actual ages. Hamill was around 24 portraying 19. If they had wanted Guinness to be even older they would have kept his toupee off. Baldness generally makes you look older. Truth is, writers didn't know how long it had been since The Clone Wars. It was left open. As much as you seeth with burning hatred towards the prequels, there is nothing to disprove their timeline in the context of the original films.

Where do you dream up 50 years? Guinness would have been like 11 years old. He turned 62 while filming ANH. Some people try to place him at much older. But that was his age.

It's very vague, it could be any number of years, 20 prior or more. There was NO absolute time set by the dialogue. Anyone who says there is, is simply dreaming up what their own timeline based on vagueness.