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#1160740
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

SilverWook said:

So you’d torch the sacred texts without hesitation?

That’s the whole point of the scene. The books don’t matter, “Time to look past a pile of old books” Yoda says. He reminds Luke that the inert desire for every person to do good and use their powers to save others and to learn from failure is all that truly matters. Not the old dogmatic teachings of the jedi. And that is precisely the first thing I’ll be cutting out of the film is the books at the end on the falcon.

And no offense, but this is one of the reasons I probably won’t be watching any TLJ edits. Everyone wants to cut out things I thought were great.

Alongside that, I think the idea of having Luke burn down the tree is terrible.

I guess we can agree to strongly disagree here 😃

I really feel like that was the point of the scene. I do agree with you technically on one thing and that’s that Luke definitely should have not burned the tree in that moment. Mainly because it would be out of anger and him simply feeling that this will help him “kill the past”. Yoda does burn the tree, but it’s not because he wants to kill the past. He knows what actually matters and wants Luke to look past just a pile of old books and instead look to learn from his past and to cherish his failures and how they have helped him. This is a contrast to Kylo killing the past. And that is ultimately why I feel the books at the end on the Falcon are just another pointless cheap fake out that aren’t worth putting in the film.

But I have discussed this before and definitely see where your coming from! I just interpreted the same content a bit differently I suppose.

The great thing about fanedits is that we can all choose our own interpretations and ignore all the others. 😉

FANFICTION

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#1160722
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Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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A lot of people are complaining about this movie and saying that it’s just going to be fan service.
Well,
“Fan Service”, (taking the phrase literally) is not a bad thing.

Films are corporate products. To sell a product, you must please your customers.
a.k.a. the fans.

Here I draw a contrast between Fan Service and “Fan Fiction (fan being singular here)”.
A franchise movie (a movie series that already has a set of fans) should be 100% fan service.

If not, in my opinion the director is wallowing into the territory of fan fiction. Fan fiction, as we all know, is one impassioned person creating a story THEY want, specifically tailored to them. A film where Han Solo fights for Galactic Free Trade, or where Han Solo time travels would be just someone’s weird, personal desires put into Star Wars. Would it be unexpected? Yes.

Some people think that unexpectedness is a virtue of the story. But it is not. As good authors would tell you, a good ending is ‘surprising but expected…and justified in-universe’. In other words, it should make you say ‘oh, that makes sense. it fits with this world and this story’.

In conclusion, I’m hoping this story is 100% fan service.

I enjoyed TFA because it was fan service. I did not really like TLJ because it was not.
I know some people were upset because TFA was so similar to other Star Wars movies, but I would not have expected any less of the movie.

People who wanted it to be different wanted it to be different because, to them, “Star Wars” was over (the original trilogy was over). Because they enjoyed the OT, they would have enjoyed a new set of films that were ‘inspired’ by the OT. But they did not want more Star Wars. Subconsciously, they would reject any addition to this OT as apocrypha.

So there are two types of people going into this movie (and any franchise movie, really):
1 Those who think Han’s story is complete, and will see any addition as apocrypha.
2 Those who are open to seeing more of the character Han Solo in the Star Wars universe
3 Non-fans (the General Audience (General Population))

The film Solo can only be two things:
FAN FICTION This will disappoint most of #1 because, as strange as it is, it still pretends to be Han Solo and they will reject it as apocrypha. It will disappoint almost all of #2. However, a very small minority of #2 might enjoy it as a film in its own right, just not as a Han Solo film. But this is not guaranteed. The GA might like it.

FAN SERVICE This will please all of #2, and none of #1. It will also please the GA, because it will be a movie that embraces its identity, and is strong in its genre, and that’s all they are really looking for in a movie.

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#1152590
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Anyway, predictions:

Whether Kylo Ren is going to be conflicted, or just a strong villain now, will let us be known to us within the first 20 minutes of the movie. They won’t tease a redemption if he’s not gonna be redeemed.

If Kylo Ren is not redeemed, it will end in a climactic duel where Rey beats him (again) and this time kills him.

If he’s not, he and Rey continue their relationship they started in TLJ. It progresses even further to the point where they are the only ones who understand each other and need to be with each other all the time.

Also:
Hux turns against Kylo Ren.

Knights of Ren make an appearance.

A few throwaway lines explain WHO THE HECK THIS SNOKE GUY WAS. Put in there to pacify annoyed fans like me 😃

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#1152587
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I enjoyed it much less the second time I saw it, I’m ashamed to say. Best since Empire it is not, as I first proclaimed. Maybe along the lines of The Phantom Menace for me.

EDIT: Unlike many of you probably I actually like TPM as a Star Wars film. To me I always liked it much more than the atrocities that were II and III.

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#1152029
Topic
Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
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Tobar said:

MaestroDavros said:
Either way I REALLY hope Disney actually let 20th Century Fox still exist as a separate brand once the transaction is complete, but I’m not holding my breath knowing their history.

You mean their history of not sticking their name anywhere on Marvel or Star Wars?

Have you ever seen Star Wars toys at the store? It isn’t hard to find the Disney logo on them.

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#1152021
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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darthrush said:

My preferred Episode 9 would be Chewie dying with the Falcon, Finn dying, Hux trying to overthrow Kylo, Luke haunting Kylo, and I have no idea what they should do with Rey.

Overall, I’m not super excited since TLJ tied up so many plot threads.

The thing is, it seems like Rey’s arc is over to me. She seems to be in the same place Luke was at the end of ROTJ.

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#1152015
Topic
How many 'Bad' Star Wars movies could you take before you check out?
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I’m not really sure. I was just a kid when the PT came out. I watched them when I was like 14 and didn’t think too highly of them but didn’t feel angry that they were bad or anything.

I think once this “Episode IX” comes out, all future movies will be too far removed from the story I actually love (the OT), and I probably won’t care about them anymore.