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#450076
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James Cameron uses DVNR on Aliens Blu Ray transfer.
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Yeah, its a mistake to presume the older DVDs are correct. Often, they are not. People tend to have a knee-jerk reaction to anything that is different from a previous release without stopping to wonder if the previous release was correct in the first place.

That's not to say the BD is necessarily 100% perfect but it probably is closer in a lot of ways than the DVD.

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#450073
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A new Star Wars Trilogy on the way?
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I think under the right circumstances Hamill would come back for a film or even a trilogy. Let's say Christopher Nolan is directing a script from Frank Darabount and executive produced by George Lucas to the tune of $300 million per film, and it sounds like a really awesome movie/trilogy, and they are also going to pay him well; Hamill's already typecast and has no real career to guard against. That sort of attitude only made sense when he was younger and had the potential to take himself in more ambitious directions. He can still do his comic books and cartoon voice-over, too. But I think if the films were put together in an attractive package pretty much all of the original cast would be on board in a second, maybe even Ford too.

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#450060
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Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
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IIRC, and I may not, the music during the Naboo scene is just a generic percussion section and it was just looped for another three seconds or however long the shot is. That entire section just has a generic tamborine/drums/percussion section to it, and then the flute melody comes in only after the camera pans up to the sky at the end of Coruscant and it dissolves back to Endor.

Also, there should be some frame differences between the GOUT/pre-SE and the SE due to cutting the negative. You can see that on shots that come before or after an SE change it looks like there is a frame or two missing. Star Wars was an A/B roll negative though, which means the negatives are checker-boarded and filled in with leader and then printed together, so I'm not sure if it should be affected this way.

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#449897
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A new Star Wars Trilogy on the way?
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TheBoost said:

What is there against Rick McCallum? Does he have any creative input at all? Isn't he a logistics man who does Lucas's bidding? I know his voice is grating, but seriously, how does he even deserve blame?

I think people blame him for inaction. But really, his hands were tied and he did the best he could under the circumstances, I think he is a good producer and promoter and did what Lucas hired him to do pretty damn well. Really damn well, actually.

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#449882
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James Cameron uses DVNR on Aliens Blu Ray transfer.
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Yeah, I agree that this is pretty "harmless", and I can see why filmmakers would want to do it because it does enhance the film in a way that is very respectful of its integrity. But ultimately, the film is what it is, it's such a small change and if its so "inconsequential" to the big picture then why bother in the first place? Sometimes its these little things that are the most damaging to a films historical integrity, because obviously most of the film is fine, that's why it's a great film, if there were flaws all over the place it wouldn't be great in the first place, but its these sort of little things that illustrate the character of the film. Normally, I don't care, but as this is supposed to be "definitive" and not some "special edition" or acknowledged altered version you start down a path where people think this is how the film was and you begin to have the real original be in danger of being lost, at least in a high quality version.

I know historical integrity is not the most important quality to these releases, and the "changes" in grain structure and this one tweak aren't too damaging to the films integrity, but it is a shame that there is a perceived need to do this in the first place. The fact that some people in the linked thread couldn't tell the "blooper" in the first place is telling--its not something you notice unless you re-watch and re-study the film. And when you do that, you notice tons of flaws and goofs, so its sort of a pointless endeavour. I realize this one is the most major of them all though, but it still strikes me as a bit unnecessary, especially considering what Cameron had previous said about his films being what they were. But all told, I suppose it could be worse, I'm not going to harp on Cameron too much for this, because to be honest these two alterations for me are a preferred viewing experience and the original versions have basically been catalogued and available in fairly high quality. It's still all just a little superfluous though.

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#449877
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A new Star Wars Trilogy on the way?
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Considering Lucas is (sort of) about to start production on a super-ambitious television series that is the equivalent to a one-hour feature-film per week, plus working on the Clone War series, plus supervising the 3D conversion, plus working on Red Tails and possibly batting around Indy V, plus all the other projects and business goings-on he has, there really is no possible way he could start working on a sequel trilogy within the next two or three years. And if its two or three years before he himself could devote any serious work to it, you can be sure that no one except himself would know he was thinking about it--probably not even his family. Something that major wouldn't be disclosed to anyone until it was actual practical to start taking preliminary planning for it.

Also, Lucas is closing in on 70. If he started making plans for a ST today, he would 70 when the first film came out and getting close to 80 by the time it was done. Personally, I'm not even sure he will live that long.

No, Lucas is finished making films. He'll put out more Star Wars shows and some stuff he can sort of watch from a distance. But he would never be able to step back from a ST the way he would with a Clone War television series. It would be a major involvement for him. I personally believe that Lucas' career is basically over and that the 3D re-release is his final farewell before he breaks up Lucasfilm, sells half of his assets to charity, and entrusts his successor(s) to oversee the small remainder of the SW franchise EU for the sake of the fans.

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#449704
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When did Star Wars stop being fun? (aka, the Anti-Correct Viewing Order thread)
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To be honest, most of the EU has always been on the poor side. Even a lot of the Marvel comics from 77-79, divorced from nostalgia and the "alternate universe" factor of being confined only to the influence of the first film, are really not inherantly better written, illustrated or told than any of the Dark Horse comics of the 90s or of today. I think its mostly the atmosphere of the company back then the encourages a sort of better view of it all, where there was less output. The last four or five years though seem to be sliding into a sort of crisis of continuity though.

My feeling though is that if you don't like this stuff, just ignore it. You can just pick and choose the ones you like, or choose none of it. I pretty much stay 100% away from the EU but once in a while I find something interesting. If you think your imagination is a better vehicle for the Star Wars universe's untold stories then just keep it that way, but I do find it entertaining to see how another person's imagination took the same event. That's all the EU is really, although the problem now is the same problem that every major franchise goes through--it gets choked by its own continuity. You have no room to be imaginative or make the story do what it should. Personally, although I think Zahn is the best of the EU writers, I think 50%, if not 70%, of the reason his books were good was because of this--he could pretty much invent whatever he wanted and make up things to serve the story. Now, it's the opposite, the story has to serve a pre-established continuity that is incredibly complex, so there's no character or narrative freedom.

In the comic world, DC universe had a major problem with this in the 1980s. Over the past 50 years there was so many different versions of the superhero origins, so many different side-characters (Supergirl, Superboy, Superdog), three or four completely alternate realities that co-existed, and the characters never aged, grew or changed their clothing styles. By 1980, the editors in power realized what a mess it all was and how no one could write anything interesting. Their solution was to basically do a massive, company-wide storyline which killed off everyone and sort of re-booted the continuity from scratch. I think this eventually led to the "Death of Superman" storyline as a holdover from this. The SW EU right now is getting to such a point, it's become too bloated and convoluted--there's only a finite amount of story lines you can do, but the demands of a weekly and monthly release schedule, whether you are DC comics or Lucasfilm, means you are forever sinking back into a corner with each release.

I guess on a similar line of thought, even though I advocate the "just ignore the stuff you don't like" train of thought, it does make me sad simply knowing that the EU had taken on such huge scale in its output--it's simply not necessary. It cheapens the franchise by making it essentially a money-driven machine; in the 70s you had some toys and a comic line and a few novels you could count on one hand, that was fine. Even in the 90s when things started taking off, I found that to be the most satisfying period. You had quite a few things to choose from, some good, some bad, many disposable but sort of fun by virtue of being Star Wars, but it wasn't this crazy amount, it wasn't this huge machine that needed to support a billion dollar company and all of its overhead. Personally, ever since 1999, the EU has just been a wealth-enablement scheme, whereas before that one sensed the genuine excitement to create some new Star Wars stuff, whether toys or video games or books or comics. I mean, Lucas was involved in Dark Empire and Heir to the Empire and seemed enthused by them, one sensed something more than just money even if that was a primary reason for their existance. Now, I honestly don't think he has any clue at all at what the hell has been happening since the late 1990s, and I don't think he gives a shit either. It has become this self-generating machine run by its own division for the purposes of generating profit.

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#449627
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Sansweet's leaving Lucasfilm....
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Its ridiculous to say all those things (Celebration, Insider) would not have happened without Sansweet. What a bunch of propaganda. Its also asinine to say LFL was anti-fan until Sansweet came onboard--the fan club was actually a much better place and SW Insider was a magnificent mag under the guidance of fan club president Dan Madison.

Although I will say that Sansweet basically put out a focal point for the burgeoning collecting community in the early and mid 1990s, before it got huge, before the internet as well. Hats off to him I guess. Unfortunately, in hindsight this was the beginning of the end, as it made LFL realize the possibilities of milking the franchise, and his close relations starting in the later 1990s kicked off a new and unprecidented era of SW shit merchandising and total oversaturation of product placement.

But again--any of this stuff would have happened without him anyway. SW was too big for it not to.

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#449435
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Now it's just getting ridiculous- Obi Wan's new howl.
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kenkraly2007 said:

I have the sounds of star wars book as well. And the new obi wan howl is not as bad as everyone says it is it's far better than 2004 that is for sure.

 Are you fucking daft man?? You mean to tell me that that clip Ady posted, as it is, sounds okay? It sounds like a 9-year-old recording himself yelling and then playing with echo effects in home PC sound editing software circa 1998. It sounds embarrassingly bad, and I can't believe you would demonstrate such bad taste as to say that fucking piece of shit is okay to be heard in a Star Wars film the way it is.

On the other hand--I don't believe that is the "final mix" version, whatever the sound is. It could very well be what the 2004 version actually was, as the book says it supposedly is, before it was re-processed and then mixed in with other layers for the final product. Or, it could be the new upcoming sound before further processing. All I do know is that the sound you hear there is extremely unlike to actually sound like that when you watch the film; hearing raw sound clips can be misleading sometimes.