xhonzi

It appears I'm not as old as Frink, but maybe I can take 2nd in this thread.

Riverraid, Pitfall 2, Defender, ET, Star Raiders, Prince of Persia, Loderunner, Donald Duck's Playground, Gertrude's Secrets, ZZT (ZZT-OOP was my first programming langauge!), Logowriter, Mario, Mario3, Batman NES 1987, METROID!!!!, Sonic, King's Quest, Monkey Island, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade the Graphic Adventure, Mean Streets, Super Metroid, Super Mario World

More later!

Johnny Ringo said:

Okay here are two games I haven't played or even thought about in years. Two games that were frustrating yet rewarding, two games with sequels [of sorts] that I never got around to checking out...

ANOTHER WORLD [aka OUT OF THIS WORLD]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_World_%28video_game%29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNeayv-OTK0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIR-APjbU4o&feature=related


FLASHBACK
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashback_%28video_game%29
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJyP5efESaI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AQvgbdtIJk&feature=related

 

I played both those two games and their sequels.  You could only get Heart of the Alien, as far as I knew/know on Sega CD, which neither I nor anyone I knew had.  I replayed OOTW/AW on a SNES emulator not too long ago and started looking into HotA again.  I found an emulator and played through it.  I think if you could handle a replay of OOTW, you would really did HotA since it's mostly more of the same thing, but maybe a slight advancement.

I also replayed Flashback around the same time.  That game is so well balanced, I found it extremely compelling.  18 years later and I think it's held up remarkably well.  My friends and I thought about making a game in XNA a couple years back and that was one of the ones that I thought was 1. simple enough that we could mimick it and 2. awesome enough that people would want to play it.  The sequel, Fade to Black, was pretty good, if I recall.  I remember getting it for my PC on release day and being pretty thrilled.  It probably hasn't stood the test of time quite as well, however.

There was a new game called One Escapee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnEscapee (New in 1997, I guess...)) that was supposed to be a spiritual successor to both OOTW and Flashback.  I was pretty stoked, but I couldn't get more than about 5 minutes or so into it.  Either the game was buggy, or the player was. ;)

I think I preferred Gormally.

I assumed you had read the books based on your assertion 'didn't seem like the Holmes I know and love from the books.'  I've read them too. 

Did you catch what I was saying?  As a modern audience, we read more into the books than what's really there, but we do it without realizing what we are doing.

You didn't comment on that, so I'm not sure if you read it, or just thought I was accusing you of not reading the books...

We netflixed Aliens in the Attic and watched it with the kiddies.  My 7 and 5 year old were a little scared for 5 or 10 minutes of the first half hour, but after that my 7 year old decided it was more funny than scary and enjoyed the rest of the movie.  My 5 year old never got over it.  My 3 year old never cared, she just watched.

I have to say it made me laugh.  A lot.  There's a character introduced in the late beginning that made me worry where the story might be going.  At the least, I thought he would bring the movie down a couple notches for me.  Was I ever wrong!  He was very funny- especially his physical comedy.  Very talented.

Check it out, especially if you are a or have pre-teen boys.

So Gaston, Skar, and Cruella Deville are all behind it?  Actually, that makes more sense than what it probably will be.

xhonzi said:

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 On sale starting today!  400 pts, and Monkey Island Avatar Swag is also 50% off.

Can I just cut and paste my thoughts from the other threads?  ;)

The Space Trilogy C.S. Lewis is fiction, pretending to be non-fiction by pretending to be fiction.  Wrap your head around that one.

And it's starring J.R.R. Tolkien as the main character!

But after this episode, we don't know as much about the smoke monster as we thought we did.

ALSO this: sMIBokey wants off the island the same way MIB wanted off the island.  So, does smokey itself want off?  Does Smocke really want off, or is it just residual memories of MIB?  MIB was presented as a slighty evil but mostly sympathetic character... but I can't say it makes me think that Smocke is anything but evil.  Unless Locke, who was good, starts to exert more control over Smocke and contains the beast long enough to instert him back into the sparkly glowy cave.

Yes, but Smocke also said: Don't tell me what I can't do!!!  So, it seems that Smokey does absorb some of the character traits of his "host" over time, so it sort of makes sMIBokey the same regardless of whether you think it's really the MIB or not.

Also this thread.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Fall-to-the-Dark-Side/topic/8843/

Uh oh!  BUSTED!  I think Han's kitchen pass is about to expire!

STAY ON TARGET!

Finlander said:

First, I want to say that "Finlander" is freakin' great! :D Seriously, no one ever mispronounced my nickname like that before, I had a good laugh (no excuses needed, btw).

Totally accidental.  You have my most sincere apology, and it won't happen again.  Let's just chalk it up to being old.  ;)

Farlander said:

<does every sequel change how you see the original(s)?>

You asked this question, and I think the answer you came to was 'no'.  However, the answer for me is 'mostly yes.'  I like all of the Matrix movies, though there are things in the 2nd and 3rd movies I don't like (and there are things that I really, really like) but I won't get into that more here.  Absolutely PotC is a good comparison or what is going on now with Lost is another good one.  In the case of PotC or Lost, story threads were intentionally left dangling in Dead Man's Chest (which I loved/love) or Lost Seasons 1-5 that it is now the burden of AWE or Season 6 to resolve.  And in the way that both of these properties are totally ruining the final chapter... it makes it really hard to go back and enjoy the 2nd to last chapter.  (Hopefully these sentences are making sense to everyone else...)  Let me rephrase a little: Part of what makes everything up til the end exciting is the anticipation of what will come in the end.  If the end then sucks, then the entire venture up to the end also sucks.  I really liked DMC, and I really disliked AWE... I think I still like DMC, but in a more confused way.  What's the point in watching DMC if all of the storylines are wrapped up so poorly in AWE?  I don't know, I haven't watched DMC in a little bit so I can't say for sure.

Hop over to my 'Trading on Promises; thread  http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/A-New-Hope-Trading-on-Promises-or-Trailer-for-the-SW-Universe/topic/11379/ for some similar ideas, but I'll reiterate.  Prequels/sequels/endings, etc... absolutely affect how I see/enjoy the rest of the franchise.  In the case of Star Wars, as I've mentioned, the only way I enjoy the OT anymore is to FORCEfully remove the PT from my brain.  I mean, if there were a PT, which there isn't.

Frinklander:

PS. And nobody answered on how Palpatine and Vader planned to turn Luke to the Dark Side of the Force. :p OT-wise.

The PT (which doesn't exist) did make me consider this scene.  As you may know from seeing my posts from around the site, I'm very interested and have wasted many an afternoon (and Sunday Sermon) thinking about how to rewrite/reboot the Prequels and actually make some sense.  What I've learned in this process is some of the shortcomings of the OT and how what might see like a very clear issue from 10,000 ft becomes very hard to understand once you take a closer look at it.  The ages of Obi-Wan and Vader in respect to Luke is one such thing (is Anakin Luke's grandfather, perhaps?) and the turn scene is another.  As oposed to going on any further here, let me direct you to some other threads discussing this very same question:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Luke-VS-the-Emperor-What-if-Vader-hadnt-been-there/topic/11026/  (my thoughts on your question really get going at post 17)

and here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Why-the-hell-did-the-lazy-Emperor-even-think-Luke-would-join-the-dark-side-and-become-his-new-apprentice/topic/8657/

Baronlando and CO basically said:

The OT wasn't deep, it was FUN!

 

Corellian77 essentially said:

Dudes, it's both!

And I agree with C77.

mfastx said:

but I never really thought the prequels sucked. 

 

That is why you fail.</yoda>

RE: Puggo.  Good points.  I think that time will be less and less kind to the PT as... er... time goes on.  You're right, it's already happened to some degree.  I'm also afraid that the PT is bringing the OT down with it for new generations that dont' know the difference.

TV's Frink said:

Am I the only one that always reads TFU instead of TFU?  They should have come up with a different name.

 I don't have that problem, but I do have one very similar.

I see 'SWTFU' as 'STFU'.

Frink said:

STAY ON TOPIC!

Happy?

I thought the gameplay of the first IMMENSELY improved upon playing the game on harder difficulties.  My first playthrough was on medium, I think, and I found the game to be easy enough that I just spammed the same attack over and over again.  On the 'insane' difficulty, I found I actually had to block and strategize attacks.  It was also insanely frustrating in places (Kazdan Paratus took me 5 hours.  Literally) but it was more rewarding.

You should bump up the difficulty and see if the gameplay doesn't improve for you.

Davnes, it worries me that you are very, very good (bad?) at RPing as a sluttly girl.

So, my friend is pretty adamant that the MIB 'unleashed' the Smoke Monster and that smokey then took the form of MIB (similar to how he has now taken the form of Locke).  I took it the other way, that he went into the Magic Yellow Light, and Mr. Manhattan style was transfigured into the smoke monster.  And that he was separated from his physical body.

Then Jacob took the body to the cave.  Some flashbacks played so that Jacob remembered that he had to lay the bodies in a particular way... Why did he do that?  So it would match season 1, of course!  He almost forgot to make them hold hands... but then another clip played reminding him how to place them just so...

A few people at my Lost/Lunch group at work are convinced that this proves the show writers knew what they were doing with the "Adam & Eve" skeletons since season 1.  In my mind, it proves they never had any idea and they picked something that 60% fits.

PREFACE: I really liked The Force Unleashed, and am cautiously optimistic about the sequel.  (Though I may wait 2 years for the Sith edition so I'm not taken for a ride).

So, I read in a magazine how they are getting Starkiller/(insert other name here) is alive and well for The Force Unleashed II.  (I assume this info will be common knowledge soon, but otherwise consider it a spoiler).

The character you play in TFU2 is a clone of the character you played in TFU1.  The story is set 6 months after the end of the first and starts with Vader traveling to Kamino to check in on the clone.  The clone fights lots of Proxy droids and it eventually shifts to Juno Eclipse (love interest from TFU1), whom the Starkiller clone refuses to fight, for reasons he doesn't understand.  Apparently there is some clone bleed over issues or something

Anyways, I was curious how the character would return and when the story was set.  Now I know, and so do you.

Farlander said:

 ...But, to me, it doesn't have a lasting appeal... 

This was what I was getting at.

He's kinda creepy, as far as admins go.

Well, the good news is that you don't have to PM Panaka, you can just pretend you did... The bad news is I don't know how you should respond to Solo.

Maybe I should pretend in one of the forums that you sent me a really nasty PM and that it's just lead me to be worse behaved.

Judge said:

Revenge of the Sith, I liked. I went to see it on opening night and grabbed a pizza beforehand.

And how was the pizza?

...as a young teenager that I ranked this film above the Original Trilogy - something which I feel deeply ashamed of now.

 And well you should.  ;)  Glad you have repented of this sin.

Farlander,

Your opinion is interesting if only for this fact: You never knew the OT as the OT.  Your introduction to Star Wars was the Phantom Menace, as you said.  The PT hangs like sandbags on the entire SW product.  I absolutely loved Star Wars from when it came out until 1999.  From about 1999 to 2008, I couldn't stand Star Wars.  Even watching the OT was painful for me, because of its association with the PT.  It so tarnished my enjoyment of movies I really loved.  It, as you said, made it all suck.

A couple years ago, I started to turn around on it again.  Ady's SW:R was a big part of it, but I started to cut the sandbags loose and self-deliriorize (new word!) that the prequels don't exist.  And, wouldn't you know, it returned the movies to their former esteem!

My 7 year old son (and my other younger kids, for that matter) are very vaguely aware that there are prequel movies, cartoons and toys out there, but they've never really seen them.  Several of my real life friends believe I have cheated my son from forming his own opinion... but his 7 year old world already almost revolves in a single day.  His current favourites are Ben-10 and He-man, at least they were when I dropped him off for school this morning. 

I find the prequel material to so dillute the SW property that it simply becomes irrelevant.  If you could somehow see the impact the prequels had by seeing a future where the prequels weren't made and to compare it to our future... I think you'd see that the prequels gave the Star Wars name a boost in the arm, but that they eventually did more harm than good.  Currently you can find a site like this with a lot of 30 somethings complaining about how one of the best parts of their childhoods has been changed for the worse, but people in your (Finlander) generation mostly just won't care.  The OT, the PT, won't be met with positive or negative passion... Just with indifference.

(Sorry to get so "oldguy" on you, but you did lead in with your "youngguy" perspective)