TV's Frink said:
This thread is now about DOGS WEARING HATS
TV's Frink said:
But I hate reading crazy quoting nonsense in my own threads. If you guys don't knock it off, as God as my witness, I will TURN THIS THREAD AROUND!!!
*sits quietly in the back seat*
Warbler said:
walkingdork said:
because you believe people should be able to speak their mind even if their opinion is ridiculous or offensive?
I think their ought to be a limit to what people can say on a forum, or do you think people ought to be able to say racist things on this forum?
If that's someone's opinion and it's on topic, then yeah.
walkingdork said:
And if a troll is doing all that with a sock account, what is wrong with wanting to find his real account and holding him responsible for the things he did under the sock account? Why shouldn't I care about the forum community, when I've been a part of it for almost 10 years(it will be 10 years in May 2013)?
Myspleen has been around since 2013 (current records only go back as far as 2004) and we dealt with trolls, racists, and extremely offensive/hateful people. Our community is doing just fine.
I get complaints from time to time with demands to ban people and I tell to them to suck it up or ignore them.
I have to say it, you attitude on subject sucks.
I believe in free speech. So unless someone is being physically threatened people can speak their minds on Myspleen. It has been that way there well before I was an admin.
walkingdork said:
walkingdork said:
Ignoring people is also such a strange idea to me. If you see someone's post and you aren't interested in reading the contents, skip it.
I have no authority in the forum. It is Jay's forum and only he can decide who is and who is not to be banned. Sometimes, people that I think should be banned, won't be. Using the ignore the button is sometimes the only other option. Maybe if the person who is annoying you, knows that you are not reading his posts, he'll stop posting the things that annoy you.
Fair enough. I guess I just have thick skin.
You say people have called for you to be banned?
when did I say that? I suppose it has happened.
bolded.
walkingdork said:
Some one can't handle you and so you should be removed??
Maybe I shouldn't be acting in such a way that someone needs to handle me.
Some people don't appreciate my humor or my being blunt from time to time. Ender used to be offended by my posts. Right now Frink is probably mad at my continuing this conversation on his thread. Should I be banned?
TV's Frink said:
GET
But
OUT
we're on topic
OF THIS
sort of
THREAD WITH THAT
at least I think we are
CRAZY QUOTING NONSENSE
we are discussing banning/ignoring which is kind of what this thread is about.
TV's Frink said:
Do you guys have any idea what thread you are in?
Sorry, I'm lost. I knew I should have made a left turn at Albuquerque
TV's Frink said:
darth_ender said:
TERRIFIC!!!
Buying in bulk is almost on-topic.
Tying it together...
darth_ender said:
It's a BA in psychology I'm afraid, and it's from the University of Arizona, a state university. On top of that, I have worked in the field for a few years now. I'm not the world's greatest pro on all things psychology, and a Bachelor's is not terribly impressive, but it's not like I'm an ignorant nincompoop on the topic. I'm not trying to impress; merely showing that I do know what I'm talking about on some level. But yes, since we agree, I'm happy to drop it too :)
BA? Maybe if it was a BS you woulda had some science in your life and come to the dark side (HAIL SAGAN!) :P
Yeah, sorry for shitting on your education. We just have so many psych/sociology students come to the halfway house I work at who don't know shit. The students from the two surrounding private schools always have higher GPAs but have the least amount of knowledge.
Most people learn more about mental illness in the first weeks of working at the halfway house than they did during their 4 years of college. Knowing the symptoms means jack until you work hands on with them.
What do you do again? Have we talked about this before?
Warbler said:
walkingdork said: who has cancer and who doesn't.
did you really need to bring the cancer thing up? I don't think it is paranoid to wonder whether or not a person, that you tried to help by creating a thread to raise money, actually has the cancer they claimed to have(especially when that person's best friend comes on the forum and says that he is lying).
You believe in God right? So donate (or don't) and let God sort it out.
Warbler said:
walkingdork said:
You guys crack me up.
So much time is spent worrying about other members because they are annoying, rude, or just plain assholes. Who cares?
the guy they are annoying, being rude to, and/or being an asshole to.
It's the internet, deal with it or move on.
walkingdork said:
I don't understand the fascination with banning people and guessing who is who's sock.
walkingdork said:
Here's a fun little fact about the correlation between banning people and socks....If you don't ban people you have less socks.
maybe true, but some people still deserve to get banned. Trolls can ruin the forum community for some people.
That's when you should use the ignore feature. Why should people have a community not only ruined but taken away from them by being banned just because someone doesn't is unhappy about their behavior?
walkingdork said:
Sure maybe a real prick might have two socks: one for being serious and another for being a troll but who cares? How does that concern anyone here?
Why shouldn't I be concerned about someone being rude and annoying to me? Why shouldn't I be concerned about someone disrespecting me or other forum members? Why shouldn't I been concerned about trolls that cause problems for the forum community?
because you believe in free speech? because you believe people should be able to speak their mind even if their opinion is ridiculous or offensive? It seems silly that you believe those things for our country, just not the places where you hang out.
And if a troll is doing all that with a sock account, what is wrong with wanting to find his real account and holding him responsible for the things he did under the sock account? Why shouldn't I care about the forum community, when I've been a part of it for almost 10 years(it will be 10 years in May 2013)?
Myspleen has been around since 2013 (current records only go back as far as 2004) and we dealt with trolls, racists, and extremely offensive/hateful people. Our community is doing just fine.
I get complaints from time to time with demands to ban people and I tell to them to suck it up or ignore them.
walkingdork said:
Ignoring people is also such a strange idea to me. If you see someone's post and you aren't interested in reading the contents, skip it.
I have no authority in the forum. It is Jay's forum and only he can decide who is and who is not to be banned. Sometimes, people that I think should be banned, won't be. Using the ignore the button is sometimes the only other option. Maybe if the person who is annoying you, knows that you are not reading his posts, he'll stop posting the things that annoy you.
Fair enough. I guess I just have thick skin.
You say people have called for you to be banned? what if Jay decided to appease them and ban you. Does that seem fair? Some one can't handle you and so you should be removed??
walkingdork said:
However I'm all in favor of people with thin skin or short tempers to ignore people instead of calling for someone to be banned.
well, I do admit the having thin skin and a bad temper problem. It is something that I have and continue to work on.
walkingdork said:
Obv troll is obv, just ignore them. :D
When I was growing up and was the victim of bullying, I was told over and over again to ignore them. It is is much, much easier to say ignore them than it is to actually ignore them.
I'm actually going to discuss the bullying issue in the politics thread. You're welcome Tyrphanax;)
darth_ender said:
Don't forget my degree in psychology. I'm well aware of the criteria. There is a massive difference between paranoid personality disorder (an Axis II disorder, as evidenced by the "personality disorder" bit) vs., say, Schizophrenia, Paranoid Type. One is a mental illness. One is not. I'm not trying to come off as snooty, but merely stating that I'm not entirely ignorant on the topic. But in reality, we have so little to go on, how could I genuinely make such a judgment? He could be very different in reality compared to his Internet activities. Again, it's all just silly fun to me. I've gotten much better at skipping stuff that offends me (in part thanks to you Walkingdork--not that you offend me all the time, but I learned that I don't have to take offense all the time in part from our past arguments, and see how well we get along now :)
Nobody stress out about my fascination with him. Perhaps I have Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (a distint disorder from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder). ;)
If it's BS in Psych then I'm not phased (especially if its not from a state college or a prestigious private college).
But in reality, we have so little to go on, how could I genuinely make such a judgment?
Glad to hear we agree on this ^ so I'll drop the subject.
You guys crack me up.
So much time is spent worrying about other members because they are annoying, rude, or just plain assholes. Who cares? I don't understand the fascination with banning people and guessing who is who's sock.
Here's a fun little fact about the correlation between banning people and socks....If you don't ban people you have less socks. Sure maybe a real prick might have two socks: one for being serious and another for being a troll but who cares? How does that concern anyone here?
Ender: your wiki post about symptoms/behaviors of paranoid schizophrenia is a huge stretch. The only paranoid behaviors I see are some of the conspiracy theories on who is who or who has cancer and who doesn't. I've worked at a halfway house with mentally ill people for over 10 years and let me tell you guys, it takes way more than weird or foolish behavior on the internet to be mentally ill. People are strange, it doesn't mean there is a chemical imbalance involved.
Ignoring people is also such a strange idea to me. If you see someone's post and you aren't interested in reading the contents, skip it. However I'm all in favor of people with thin skin or short tempers to ignore people instead of calling for someone to be banned.
Obv troll is obv, just ignore them. :D
darth_ender said:
For my own whine session, I caught the most awful computer virus. I've handled viruses before (not that I'm all that savvy, but I've found the right tools to take care of it). This one was really a doozie, though. It started as just a supposed FBI warning that turned on my camera and stated I had done some illegal activities and needed to pay a fine. I had to do a hard shut down and start in safe mode. The program disabled any kind of security software I had and wouldn't allow me to use it or even update it. After various tricks, it seemed like I'd gotten it all, but still my security programs were not usable, though online scanners were finding nothing. Finally I found a site that recommended a rootkit removal tool from Kaspersky, and that seemed to do the trick. Everything was freed up and several new viruses were discovered. Oh my gosh, this has been a nightmare to clean up! And I wasn't even going to sites that I would consider dangerous or harboring viruses! I think the nightmare's over though, thank heavens!
Easiest way to solve any virus issue is to have a complete disk image backup of your computer. Setup your computer exactly how you want it and create the back up...then once you have a virus or a software issue you can just completely restore your hard disk to how it was originally (Note: this is NOT like System Restore on Windows). I use Acronis True Image.
I do this all the time when I have huge projects that result in tons of extra files and programs scattered on my desktop. Then I just save the files I want to an external hard drive and restore to the original state.
Bingo has a point as well. Ubuntu is pretty easy to use if you are a long time windows user and has less issues (plus it's free and open source).
I'm pretty disappointed at the way many of the OT folks have mistreated their myspleen accounts. Many people have downloaded the Harmy and DarkJedi torrents and then immediately stopped seeding, forcing peers to wait longer for their downloads.
OT members on myspleen make up 43 of the top 50 worst sharers. Of the 400+ OT members I have invited to Myspleen 2/3 of them have God awful ratios and most of them have made no attempt to seed back anything at all. Obviously this stuff happens on public trackers like Pirate Bay or Demonoid but it's just not acceptable on private trackers. :(
Hit n' Runs are a slap in the face on torrent sites. Torrent sites don't keep the actual files on a server, everything is shared by our members. So when you download something and then walk away, you are hurting our community.
Myspleen is a very laid back site because our staff is very laid back. Other private trackers are very strict about ratios and hit n' runs and permanently ban people for not keeping a 1.0 ratio. Despite getting a lot of complaints about OT folks about abusing the sites goodwill I still want to avoid creating harsh rules and babysitting individuals (partially out of laziness).
I think part of this issue is my fault for handing out willy nilly invites without giving some basic guidelines. I'm sure many of you are new to torrenting so here's guidelines and tips.
Basic Guidelines:
- Anything you download should really be seeded until you have at least a ratio of 1.0+ for that torrent OR you have been seeding it for at least 72 hours. That's the minimum effort required to be an acceptable member.
- Don't delete your account unless you are sure you are never going use it again. Deleting your account and requesting a new invite later is ratio evasion and frowned upon in the torrent community. There's no reason for it and I've turned down several requests for a second account.
- Keep a good overall ratio or at least keep torrents seeded. I and other staff are less worried about your ratio when we can see that you are at least attempting to fix it. Don't be afraid to download a torrent that may hurt you ratio, just be willing to seed it so others can have access to it as well.
Tips to get your ratio up:
- Seed. Keeping your torrents seeded is the easiest and most obvious way to bring up your ratio. If no one is downloading from you because the torrent is old or unpopular just wait, someone will download it eventually.
-Take advantage of freeleech. Freeleech is when downloading will not count against your ratio (but upload still will). Myspleen has freeleech quite often. We have freeleech for holidays, special events, and sometimes just for the fun of it.
-Take advantage of torrents that have stars or clock icons. Starred torrents are freeleech for as long as they are starred (usually forever) and new torrents with stop watch icons are freeleech for the first week.
-Take advantage of Upload Multipliers. Each torrent has an Upload Multiplier which gives bonus upload depending on how old the torrent is (some of the oldest torrents have multipliers above 12x). The multiplier number is multiplied by the amount of upload and added to your stats.
So 5GB uploaded on a torrent with a upload multiplier of 2 will give you 10GB towards your ratio.
- Check out the Home page from time to time for news and updates. Sometimes we have contests for prizes and I'll soon be putting up some opportunities for upload prizes.
If there are any questions, comments, or complaints I'd love to hear them. :)
CP3S said:
walkingdork said:
I drank way too much last night. I have a female friend who is rather large (not my thing) who is always jokingly flirting with me. Last night she sent me some rather disturbing nude photos of herself while I was half in the bag (at only 8PM mind you). Apparently at one point texted me to hear how I felt about the photos and I sort of cheered her on about it in a joking manner.
...
Still, after being hungover all day, I think I need to tone down the drinking. Problem is I only get to go out once or twice a month and when I do, I just get destroyed. Hopefully I can start smoking weed again soon.
Oh man, I hate those situations! I've gotten myself in a lot deeper than you though. So, a year ago I could honestly say I've never slept with anyone I wasn't really attracted too. I mean, all my women had been really hot. Since then, I've woken up next to two different rotund women. Both times I was drunk, both times I felt icky the next day, and both times I recall some perverse drunken chivalrous thoughts from the night before of, "Aw, no way this poor girl ever gets male attention, might as well give her the night of her life.", and both times it followed me for several agonizing days as she pursued a relationship and wouldn't take a hint. So very awkward.
I hate being such an asshole. :(
A couple nights ago a 47 year old gave me a blowjob in her car and then took me out for pancakes. I win. :(
As I was eating the pancakes I started to sober up and realized she was giving me the "hard crush" stare. Gross. I'll be avoiding that bar from now on.
Tyrphanax said:
Still just JediTemple.
Same here
Tyrphanax said:
walkingdork said:
I mentioned in the past that I have not been smoking weed because I was applying for a great job...well I got it!
It's an IT position at a large hospital. Worth every toke I didn't take.
Every toke untook?
something like that. :)
Bingowings said:
Craig Charles managed to get his live back together after his false rape charge but it did put a dent in not just his career but the other members Red Dwarf team.
Have you been watching season 10? I hear it's a lot better than some of the other recent red dwarf stuff.
Bingowings said:
Conganjaulations!
haha, thanks!
Warbler said:
walkingdork said:
Genesis 38:9-10King James Version (KJV)
9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also.
Either way you read it, the Lord is kind of a dick. So Onan was supposed to knock up his brother's wife and when he decided he was killed. That is weird cult kind of shit.
according to the story, I don't think he was killed for not knocking up his brother's wife, I think was killed because he was supposed to try to get his brother's wife pregnant and he instead "pulled out".
Fixed.
I agree warbler, I think it was because he wasted his seed, but either way it's bad.
I mentioned in the past that I have not been smoking weed because I was applying for a great job...well I got it!
It's an IT position at a large hospital. Worth every toke I didn't take.
Warbler said:
Bingowings said:
You have a point about Hitler being an evil despot, and it might be a bit silly for the UK to have a constitutional monarch and I can see how you might find my position on mice difficult to follow but are you sure about worshipping this chap?
Commanding people to kill pregnant women seems a bit on the extreme side.
Just sayin'
yeah, I've never been too comfortable with some of the Old Testament stuff. I've often wondered if those kinds of things were truly ordered by God, or did the people back then just think it was, or did they make it up to use an excuse to justify the slaughter they wanted to do? The slaughter in the Old Testament always seemed inconsistent with the message of love and peace preached by Jesus.
So some of the Old Testament might be made up...but only the parts that seem completely ridiculous. The rest of the Bible you would bet your life is true?
Genesis 38:9-10King James Version (KJV)
9 And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord: wherefore he slew him also.
Either way you read it, the Lord is kind of a dick. So Onan was supposed to knock up his brother's wife and when he decided he was killed. That is weird cult kind of shit.
Warbler said:
walkingdork said:
Warbler said:
walkingdork said:
darth_ender said:
Well, much as I enjoy this debate, I don't think I'm going to argue with you if you think that a perfectly fair analogy is crazy without providing any rational reason. You don't have to like it, but both were/are legal, and yet some people saw/see such as acceptable while others saw/see such as unacceptable. Nothing crazy about that. But I think I'm done defending definitions since I feel like I am continually taken out of context (not just by you, mind you).
Comparing the legality of abortion to the legality of genocide during Nazi Germany is the dumbest fucking idea I have ever heard of. So no, I will not be offering much "rational reason" for saying an analogy is crazy.
why was it crazy? C3PS argued that since abortion is legal and socially acceptable, I was silly for "getting my panties tangled up" over it. In Germany, at the time, the Holocaust was also deemed legal and socially acceptable(at least for some Germans, I realize some Germans opposed all the stuff Hitler was doing). The comparison seems very logical to me.
America is nothing like Nazi Germany. Abortion is nothing like genocide.
I know that, but that is irrelevant to the comparison I was making. I think you need to go back and read the conversation between me and C3PS. Maybe then it will make more sense to you what I brought up the Holocaust.
The Holocaust was not made legal, they just did it. Most Germans only knew that Jews were taken out of their homes and put into concentration camps, they had no idea they were being killed by the millions until much later.
walkingdork said:
walkingdork said:
EDIT: As for the Bible, I'm not sure if you mean in reference to abortions or just using the term at all. Frankly, I'm not sure...but searching on the BibleGateway, it appears that the term murderer is used a few times in the KJV, but not just plain murder. As for the NIV, it gets a bit more usage as both murderer and murder.
Now doing a little research and wasting valuable study time yields some interesting biblical arguments regarding abortion. One site gave some extremely bizarre and stretched interpretations justifying abortion from the Bible. Only a few citations could be considered truly worthy of further examination and rebuttal. However, several other citations support the notion of preserving life. I'd be interested in discussing that topic further, but I can't get on this site anymore today--too much to do.
some dude in the bible shot one off (ejaculated) into the ground and was immediately put to death by God for wasting his seed. Pretty sure the big man would be against abortion.
Yes, I am betting he would be. The question at hand isn't whether or not God wants us committing abortions, the question is whether or not it should be legal. With Gay Marriage, I also believe that God doesn't want Gays to get married, but I think it should be legal for them to do so. They of course, have answer to God for that, but that is between them and God. The reason I think Gay Marriage should be legal and abortion not, is because I believe that gay marriage hurts no one but possibly the gay couple deciding to get married, however I do believe that abortion hurts someone other than the person deciding to have an abortion. I believe it hurts the unborn child, hence the difference. Despite how you want to paint me, I am not some sort of right wing nutcase, trying to force his religion down the throats of others.
I've never painted you as a right wing anything. I'm not accusing you of anything. Everything I've said is only in response to what Ender is saying. Nothing to do with you I promise.
again, my mistake. Please understand I posted the things you've responded to here, before I understood that Ender was the one that brought religion into the conversation.
No worries.
walkingdork said:
walkingdork said:
I'm just thankful that the God (who is the same today as he was yesterday (or however that phrase goes)) doesn't continue to kill people for jerking off or using BC.
I am glad that God does not kill people for sinning, if he did, no one would be here.
Unless of course the whole idea of God was completely fabricated, but that's a whole 'nother conversation for a different thread.
yes, and a completely pointless conversation, since I can not prove to you that God exists, and you can not prove to me that he doesn't exist.
Right.
darth_ender said:
walkingdork said:
darth_ender said:
Well, much as I enjoy this debate, I don't think I'm going to argue with you if you think that a perfectly fair analogy is crazy without providing any rational reason. You don't have to like it, but both were/are legal, and yet some people saw/see such as acceptable while others saw/see such as unacceptable. Nothing crazy about that. But I think I'm done defending definitions since I feel like I am continually taken out of context (not just by you, mind you).
Comparing the legality of abortion to the legality of genocide during Nazi Germany is the dumbest fucking idea I have ever heard of. So no, I will not be offering much "rational reason" for saying an analogy is crazy.
It is because of this statement that I am sure you don't understand what I'm talking about.
I am not equating the two at all, except in the misuse of the word 'murder'. I am not calling abortion doctors Hitlers and Himmlers. I am not calling women who get abortions genocidal or even infanticidal. I am not declaring that the 40 million annual pre-birth killings are the same as the 6 million WWII Jewish killings. I am simply saying that C3PS said abortion cannot be murder because murder is, by definition, killing illegally. In Nazi Germany, killing Jews was not illegal killing, and therefore was not murder, according to the official definition (at least not illegal in Nazi Germany). To Warbler's (and my) sentiments, killing someone can still be morally wrong, even if it is not illegal. Therefore, according to Warbler's definition, just because abortions are legal, that doesn't make them morally right. Much of this country and the world agrees with him. Even more of the country and world would agree that just because killing Jews in Germany was legal, it wasn't right.
We are not saying they are the same! We are not comparing the nature of the acts. We are merely pointing out that just because it is legal doesn't mean that it is right. Don't get so caught up in the popular "Oh, someone compared something to Nazis so I won't even consider the nature of the argument" fad. We are not comparing anyone to Nazis. We are drawing a rather tangential parallel.
I realize that you are not comparing the acts of abortion to genocide. That would beyond stupid.
C3PS's saying that murder is illegal killing may not be an acceptable answer but saying that Jews killed in the Holocaust were not technically murdered in Nazi eyes by the same definition is just ridiculous. They were crimes against humanity and war crimes. Most of what happened during the Holocaust was behind closed doors and most Germans didn't even know what was happening.
Ridiculous analogy.
