walking_carpet

Yeah, I read somewhere that he wrote a letter to Lucas about it (!). 

I don't think its true, and I didn't hear any detail of what was it that was modifed or removed.  If it was, I gotta believe he would have been even more vocal RE: the copy/paste job for AOTC; unless he had no time and himself suggested that they re-use some scores.  either way, it sucks that the Battle of Geonosis did not have its own theme - all the other battles did.

Tyrphanax said:

TheoOdo said:

As someone who grew up with the prequels, I can tell you they're something you grow out of when you begin to see just how terrible they are, while the OT still stands up to scrutiny.

I honestly think there's nothing to fear for future generations.

Like them lil Ewoks taught us, power is meaningless if you're on the Dark Side. Lucasfilm cannot rewrite history or force us to adopt whatever warped perspective allows Lucas to view the prequels as good.

I agree with this completely; having also grown up with, and at one time enjoying, the prequels as well, I can safely say that I recognize today that they're more or less piles of tripe that do the title "Star Wars" injustice, and I think most kids will see that as they grow up as well.

As a person, you "grow into" certain things, and good cinema is one of those things. It's like hating coffee, or mushrooms on pizza, or green olives as a kid; or like loving sugary cereal, or eating frosting out of the can, or wanting to subsist off of candy. There's a number of things you hate/love as a kid that you end up loving/hating as an adult.

 Have a younger PT generation cousin that owns all 6 movies on his laptop.

He helped me get Harmy's movies, so he's cool.

he is too young to remember when he first saw the OT on video but grew up with PT.  during the theatrical run it seemed like he enjoyed them when we talked about it.  But it was interesting to hear him say things like "yeah, but those movies have a lot of computer graphics".  It gave me the impression that little kids are actually smarter than give them credit for.  and PT were never anywhere near as popular to kids his age as POTC, LOTR, Shrek or the new Batman movies. 

he is in college now and thinks the PT sucks and the OT is a lot better.  He is worried Lucas is gonna replace Yoda in ESB with a CGI yoda.  He says the movies don't work if you watch them in numerical order because it looks like the PT is more technologically advanced than the OT.

I never told him my true feelings of the PT because it was I who introduced him to star wars and told him and his sister that TPM was gonna be awesome.  pretty embarassing to be a fan of something you think is going to be cool only to have it suck ass :(

so when he said PT is bad, I asked him if he was saying that cuz he learned it from the RLM videos.  He didn't, but just last week he told me he saw them and thought they are hilarious and spot on.  especially this one for Episode III

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTffAjsUfs  :(

anecdotal story to be sure.  hopefully many more like it.

Mr. Bungle said:

SilverWook said:

Mr. Bungle said:

Baronlando said:

Looking at the charts, boy they aren't kidding when they say blu-ray sales are still relatively soft. Not for Star Wars, just in general. (The headline isn't is as great if you say "In it's first week Star Wars sells a fraction as many copies as the dvd of Beverly Hills Chihuahua!")

Yeah, and there's a significant portion of people who 1) don't own a Blu-ray player, 2) don't own an HD set, 3) already have the DVD set and are fine with that, 4) are kind of strapped these days. Regardless, there's a huge spin here in selling this as some massive success story. Yeah, it's definitely great news for a format that some people have stupidly compared to laserdisc and declared DOA. But people in general don't buy movies the like they did 5 - 10 years ago.

 

As Laserdisc had a healthy 20+ year run as a niche format, (and pioneered many things we now take for granted with DVD and Blu Ray today) that's actually a backhanded compliment in my book. ;)

Oh, I wasn't trying to knock laserdisc. I was a proud owner and supporter for many years. But it was a format that never properly marketed, and people could never seem to get over the awkward size. Totally ignorant, but that and the much higher price for them really hurt its chances.

laserdisc was great!  i dind't get one until late in the run (1995) but i was just happy that i didn't need to rewind movies anymore :)  and it wasn't really until progressive scan that I saw a big difference in dvd and laserdisc picture quality.  Up until then, the big advantage was size, price and extra features. 

Even price wasn't so bad because I got 4 free movies up front, one of which was toy story! and i subscribed to that one club where you buy 3 movies and can get an additional 3 for free (forgot what it was called but you've seen the ads in the sunday paper). And there was one Blockbuster that rented out laserdiscs, so that was cool.

im not so sure if there is still a significant portion that doesn't own HDTV.  nobody sells CRTs ever since the analog cutoff a couple years ago.  just going off of anecdotal evidence, my whole building has blue light coming out of all the windows at night cuz everyone has a flat screen.  What have you guys seen?

And the prices for TVs and blu ray players have come down.  the discs themselves are still pricey, especially compared to DVDs that can be had for the single digits.

imk thinking people are getting more into streaming and just downloading to laptops.  DVD dind't really have that as competition, but blu ray does. are films going to have a napster problem? the music industry was caught off gaurd 10 years ago, maybe not so much the film industry.

anyway, its a great launch.  but im not so convinced that lucas has caught another generation that can easily provide him cash flow and can continue to do so.  Younger fans may like star wars PT, but its not a staple the way it OT was for generation X.  and they certainly will not be as loyal and unwavering the way many PT kool-aid drinkers are. 

Kids that missed both the OT and the PT theatrical runs but are now learning about star wars for the first time from the Clone Wars show may like it a little more because they are truly the first ones that can follow the saga in the numerical order lucas wants with no pre-conceived notion or expectations.

But again, im not sure those kids will be attached to it in the long-term the way us 70s and 80s kids were.  it was no coincidence that the resurgence and re-launch of star wars came at a time when generation X entered the workforce.

Lucas may have his eyes set on newer generations, as so many people like to theorize - but he sure loves the discretionary income of our generation.

The OOT, yes.  Having spent this past week watching harmy's despecialized editions reaffirms it for me.

normally don't make top ten lists because i can change the order depending on how I feel but also because the OOT would automatically take 3 spots, making the remaining 7 harder to narrow down (which would usually be comprised of ROTLA, Jaws, Halloween, Goodfellas, GodfatherI/II, spirited away, Grave of the Fireflies, Fantasia, FRWL, Superman).

Hi Harmy,

I first posted in the ESB thread after watching your edit and it was a great thrill.

I have now completed all 3 movies and just want to congratulate you again on a job well done!  Also happy to see your getting more recognition!

These films look beautiful.  I didn't miss ANY of the SE changes.  I had heard of the color-timing on the 2004 dvds but it didn't occur to me how much had changed until I saw your releases.

thank you so much for making this happen!

Baronlando said:

I would just like to see some evidence that "our" side has really used it in the last 10 years. It seems like they're the only ones keeping it alive.

+1

its more or less a straw man and a cop-out.   1 person on hometheaterforum said this and he was reprimanded on the spot.  he only had one post and hasn't posted since then so an obvious troll.  other than that,  I cant say I've heard this since AOTC (unless you want to count the now famous south park indiana jones episode). 

sycophants like to say "blah blah, you just don't like the PT cuz jar jar raped your childhood" against any criticism that gains traction.  back in the day on the TFN basher sanctuary,  they didn't even try this because the posters discredited the PT purely on storytelling fundamentals. Just like here.  and RLM.

so they know its to their advantage when someone says this because it makes it easy to change the subject or dismiss any criticism.

as for kate lucas, I asked on another thread what exactly her role is.  I don't have twitter so I don't know if there is a way to confirm if this tweet actually was from her.  and if it was, she just makes a fool out of herself as far as Im concerned. 

wouldn't care anymore about any SE if OUT was properly restored.  but wouldn't be bothered by saving the 97 as bonus  - like the blade runner set.  include the documentaries that discuss the restoration and the 20th anniversary celebration.  my fondness is really more for that than the actual changes.

the 2004 and 2011 can burn.  has a lot of sloppiness, re-revisions and just lucas playing with his toys (the 97 has this too, but at least a few of the changes are legit and documented). 

but the 97 SE should be the very last thing saved and not at the expense of any other bonus.  Example,  I hear that the 'From Star Wars to Jedi' documentary was not included in BD set.  if it were up to me and I could only include one more disc, I include this and not the 97 SE.

TheBoost said:

In the end people remember good movies. Bad movies fade away.

That's why people always talk about the Golden Days of Hollywood. People remember "Casablanca" not "Shhh Beware the Octopus!"

People still look at Bela Lugosi's Dracula as the icon. Some film enthusiasts recall the lesser later movies in the Universal Monster series. Star Wars will be much the same way.

 They could package the blu-ray of Dracula with a picture of Abbot and Costello on the front, but in the end people will remember Lugosi.

that can true in most cases. 

but Star Wars has always been an exception to every rule and im afraid the PT will also be an exception. It had too much exposure - so its harder to fade away. 

and actually, its not really an exception - Im a big fan of the original Halloween. Before the sequels and the whole michael myers/laurie strode and the remakes (which I didn't see but people whose opinion i trust say they are horrible), this was a classic like Carrie, shining, psycho etc.  It was even a Criterion Laserdisc, LOL !!!!!!!! (and maybe that was a little too much)  But now, its regarded as just another slasher movie like F13 or NOES...and that sucks.

Rocky was a beloved classic, but now people makes jokes because of the bad sequels.

The original Jaws seems to have come away unscathed.

thanks zombie

dang...so i guess even spielberg isn't as close as one would think? thought all these guys gave each other profit percentages at one point. 

makes me wonder if tarantino and robert rodriguez are not really close friends

TheBoost said:

 So I ask the question: other than hiding in a cave, WHAT could Lucas do that could not be interpreted as being a prestige-whore

People at the Oscars look good. When someone makes a musceum display about you you look good. Should Lucas not do these things? Wouldn't you call him bad names if he turned the Smithsonian down?

At the time, I would have been perplexed.  Now, my preference would be to to offer the items and also offer the original films that the smithsonian were honoring - further more, make additional films that don't make a mockery of the OT by putting forth an effort in writing and directing.  We don't have that, so from my perspective, it comes of as a crass stunt to generate hype - which lucas likes to claim only 'hollywood suits' resort too.  Looking back, it looks like lucas was only interested in the paegentry of it all. 

Star Wars is certainly on many a "greatest of all time" list. I'm not sure about how people feel about American Graffiti - in the 70s it was extremely well regarded. I personally think it just might be superior to Star Wars.

 Roger Ebert gave one of the best

reviews

for a movie when he wrote about it .  The movie itself (not to mention the setting) was before my time but he does explain why it had an impact when it came out in 1973 - just picturing how much the country change from 1962 to 1973.  guess timing is a lost art. 

can a movie be made about teenagers in the year 2000 come out today and show the same time of changes? 

TheBoost said:

walking_carpet said:

 

 

We all know what a prestige-whore he is (doing interviews with bill moyers, loaning out star wars props to the Smithsonian).  methinks he couldn't resist a chance being seen as king-maker to one of the best filmmakers alive.

Any knowledgeable film fan can tell you the only ability lucas shares with spielberg, coppola and scorsese is that he can pee standing up (to paraphrase charles barkley).  But lucas knows the power of images.  not long after the oscars, some apologist took a picture of lucas with spielberg, copolla and scorsese and titled it Cinema's Mt. Rushmore!!!

Somehow Lucas MADE Bill Moyers interview him and the Smithsonian display his stuff? Or could we look at it as Lucas graciously did those things since he already has the prestige as the director of two of the greatest movies of all time, and the most successful independent filmmaker of all time, and a technological visionary?

And he somehow cleverly manipulated it so that a picture was taken of him and his peers (who he just presented an award with) when they were all together! Scandalous! Damn tricky apologists! This is unheard of!!!!!!

true, he didn't force anyone to do those things, but he knew it would make him look good.   I'll admit,  I thought it was cool, especially when the Field Museum opened an exhibit and I was able to see Darth Vader and C-3PO costume. 

and to your point that he already had the prestige - yes, but more than he deserved and he milked it.  Before the PT, he spent a lot of time talking about myths, kurosawa etc.  During the PT, he pushed very hard the angle that 'well, star wars was always lame.  they're just dumb kid movies'

for the oscar - i didn't say he staged all that; again, just he knew it would make him look good.  and maybe theres are part of me that felt robert deniro should have been there instead and my annoyance showed thru more than I intended.

I dont like saying this about someone.  Im not happy to call someone dishonest and deceitful and opportunistic.  but thats what he is.  There is plenty of evidence of this behavior -the biggest examples are him blathering on and on about how "star wars was actually a large multi-generational saga that I had planned all along."  another is "special effects are just tools for telling a story".  "Im really an art-house/experimental filmmaker". He didn't misspeak when he said these things.  He did it for a good reason.

Anyway, he could very well be close to scorsese and i'll stand corrected.  and i wouldn't mind knowing more about it because we hear so much about his relationship to Milius, De Plama, spielberg and coppola. But not this.

zombie84 said:

You know what's scary? George Lucas considered putting Young Han Solo in Episode III so seriously that he was featured in a draft of the script! And they did concept art!

WTF!! Somehow the retardedness of it all just dawned on me. What the hell went through his head? It says a lot about how Lucas thinks these days.

doesn't surprise me.  the whole thing was a big joke to him anyways.  Newsweek had it right when they said "fans felt Lucas was taking his money and laughing all the way back to skywalker ranch" when detailing all the lucrative merchandising deals lucas was able to sign before TPM came out.

the real story is not that lucas wanted Han Solo in ROTS, but why he was ultimately dropped.  unless, he never had any intention and just wanted it in the scripts to zing everyone - that wouldn't be out of character either.

Hey Zombie,

I've been reading several articles that you wrote and they are all fascinating.  Definitely looking forward to reading the rest of Secret History of Star Wars.  Had one question:

-what do you know about lucas' relationship to Martin Scorsese?

I know you mentioned marcia lucas edited his movies, so there's a connection there.  and I know they crossed paths over the years being from the same generation.  but that seems more like a 'friend of a friend' kind of thing.  and you documented with great humor that lucas was quesy with scorsese given his crazy drug use at the time.

But at the Oscars when Scorsese finally won best director, lucas went out of his way to make it look like him and scorsese were life-long friends and soul-mates and I am dubious about this.  I've followed many interviews with scorsese and read a biography of his that I can't remember the title - and there was never any real reference to Lucas.  Coppola, yes;  Spielberg, yes (he was supposed to direct cape fear :D)  but not lucas.

are they really that close?  if not, my suspicion is lucas was doing this for his own selfish reasons.  We all know what a prestige-whore he is (doing interviews with bill moyers, loaning out star wars props to the Smithsonian).  methinks he couldn't resist a chance being seen as king-maker to one of the best filmmakers alive.

Any knowledgeable film fan can tell you the only ability lucas shares with spielberg, coppola and scorsese is that he can pee standing up (to paraphrase charles barkley).  But lucas knows the power of images.  not long after the oscars, some apologist took a picture of lucas with spielberg, copolla and scorsese and titled it Cinema's Mt. Rushmore!!!

If im wrong, and they truly are very close friends then I'll stand corrected.  As a huge fan of scorsese, I remember all those years watching in dismay as he was not recognized only to be overjoyed when he finally won. If lucas is a true fan and even greater friend, he must have felt the same way.

interested in hearing your thoughts

theres been a lot of feedback on avsforum and hometheaterforum regarding sound issues for the BDs - specifically AOTC. 

Has anyone had any problems?  so far looks like it could be a firmware issue or a new THX feature taking up too much memory.

I've seen people talk about the load times here, but was wondering if there been any reports of sound gaps, pops, etc.

saw AOTC at a neighbor's place and i don't recall any issues (i think he has one of those blu-ray/speaker/receiver combo systems).  however there was a new edit that i mentioned in  aprevious post that was so bad, we actually thought the disc skipped, lol

Hopefully there wasn't a QA problem and a batch of defective discs.  Would make it much more difficult to buy these second hand.

TheBoost said:

I'm more pro-CGI than most members of this board, but I think the best/worst example of what you're talking about is the new musical number in Jabba's palace.

The two EXTREME close ups of the singing aliens mouths are so painfully there just to show us how proud they were of the CG (that hasn't aged well). If that was a puppet or even an actor, you would NEVER do a shot loooking down at the uvula. The whole point is "Hey, this CG cartoon has a uvula! Isn't that awesome!"

 When lucas announced that he was making PT in 1995 and he sited advancement in CGI, I was giddy as hell.  memories of The Abyss, T2 and Jurassic park (even though i thought this movie overall was a letdown) are among the greatest movie going experiences I've had.  Just think what ILM had in store for more star wars.

This was a fallacy - one thing, those aforementioned films are among the greatest special effects movies ever made even 20 years later.  secondly, CGI was implemented in those movies specifically for items that were impossible to achieve otherwise!  you didn't see ed harris in a 'cgi' diving suit - he actually wore the suit!  and hippies rat was real! and there was only ONE t-rex!  not one thousand.    

I still see plenty of examples of great photorealstic CGI - Davy JOnes, District 9, King Kong, Dark Knight.  Even the PT (lava on mustafar, the landscapes of the planets - except coruscant in broad daylight,  the battledroids).  its too bad there was just so much more bad and inexcusably excessive cgi.  I mean...would it really been too much to ask to have temura morrison wear an actual clone trooper suit!?!?  looking back, i guess its surprising that at least chewbacca was still peter mahew in a suit.

apologists like to parrot the LFL talking point "well, epsiode III had more models and sets than the entire OT"  but this is a horrible analogy.  A) Star Wars was a modestly-budgeted movie  B) Empire had limited locations (the falcon, dagobah, the star destroyer bridge) , the PT had more diverse sets because they scripted more locations C) the very nature of coruscant would require more models than tatooine, which can use an actual location  D)the ratio of models to cgi renderings is still extreme.

just thinking about all this and considering the SE changes, it points to lucas thinking "digital above all else", "an unwatchable digital effect is still better than a flawless optical effect..because digital rules"

lol, getting a little off-topic with this post.   feel go back and add more TPM scenes.

Mr. Bungle said:

No, I think you, ahem, nailed it.

As far as "the negotiations were short", I'm not sure it was intended as a "haw haw" Kenobi *joke*. Just sort of that Obi-Wan light-hearted lines. I never minded it. I think McGregor as Obi-Wan is one of the highlights of the PT. His "Why do I have the feeling we've picked up another pathetic life form?" got chuckles. It's also an odd line as it's Lucas basically acknowledging the alien sidekick sucks.

 

hmmm...now that i've seen some of the padme lines, i feel like i want to re-tract because everything she said was awful. so was her delivery.

man..how much worse would the PT be without Ewan? he gave best performance in ROTS i thought.  although, i also believe that he had an advantage over natalie and hayden because he had alec guiness to model off of.  had it not been for that, he likely would have been in a lot of trouble too.

He was outspoken about the worthlessness of TPMs script.  apologists use the standard talking point - "well, a lot of actors dont care for their expereinces on the star wars movies" - but he really wanted to be a part of these movies.

I remember when he was first cast in 1997 he said Independance Day was Hollywood crap and Star Wars was better because it had story and heart - just think about that 15 years later !! lol.

i forgot where, but i read something that he said not too long ago - "i think the original trilogy will have a special place in history,  the PT...well, that was the trilogy I was in"

LOL!!  i mean...if this is what he says in public, just imagine what he feels privately!  :(

hitfan said:

walking_carpet said:

+1

finding the worse scene in TPM is like debating the worse player on the Bears offensive line.  But this is a microcosm.

+10

There was a lot of suckage in TPM: Anakin is a cutesy 10 year old.  Slavery is bad.  Yippee!  That's gotta hurt no matter what planet you come from.  Boss Nass.  Anakin destroys the command center by accident.

It's really hard for me to pinpoint the one singular moment of the movie that is the worst.  What sticks out the worst in my mind is the two headed announcer during the pod race.  The need to inject really bad comic relief moments every few minutes just wears you down after a while.

what else is outrageous about that scene is how totally fake it looks.  Lucas went on and on for years taking about how CGI can help him because he can create anything photorealistic. 

THERE IS NOTHING PHOTOREALISTIC about that two-headed pod-race announcer!!  come to think of it, there is so much crap in the PT thats not photorealistic.  Another garbage scene in TPM is the Naboo ground battle! pixar nowadays looks better - but you dont hear them saying any of the animated features are meant to be photorealistic.

the clone troopers in AOTC were obviously CGI to me even back in 2002.  most likely what cost ILM the oscar that year.

if photorealism was truly the standard for using CGI in the PT, then one can easily argue that the PT had far worse effects from 1999-2005 than the OT did from 1977-1983.  and its not even close.

rouged said:

theprequelsrule said:

I've seen most of his films and he always seems to play his different characters in a very similar manner. Like Natalie Portman.

Most of his roles are him playing Han Solo/Indiana Jones, just in different circumstances - he tends to play his characters either as a slightly nicer or meaner version of them, depending on the film. Since a lot of people disagree with me this might be just my perspective.

But his performance in the Mosquito Coast (which I finally got around to seeing a few years ago) stood out as being very different: facial expressions, vocal tone, everything.

According to this review of Cowboys & Aliens, Harrison Ford "is certainly one of the few actors who can afford playing the same role over and over again and stay entertaining all the time." So, you are not the only one with such an opinion. I think in Witness he was a little bit different than usual too.

I think Air Force One is probably what started that perception.

didn't get a chance to see cowboys and aliens in theatres, so hopefully its good but it wasn't a big hit :(   Witness he was great,l also liked him in presumed innocent.  Tommy Lee Jones stole the show, but he was great in the fugitive

Devil's Own was a huge let down.  a great idea for a movie with an awesome cast but it fizzled out and there were behind-the-scenes issues.

overall, Im worried about Ford.  In interviews and talk shows he really seems slow, sad and a little spaced out.  He's very old now and will probably retire in few years but hope he's ok health wise.   maybe he can get a great role like jeff bridges did and win oscar. 

zombie84 said:

 It's hard to believe Katie Lucas chose that, but she chose it out of a lineup so maybe the alternatives were even worse. It's hard to know how much I should be blaming her. :P

 so whats her story anyway?  is she taking over the business?  I heard she writes scripts for the shows - did she even go to film school? (not that lucas ever cared about competant filmmaking)

i don't have twitter - was anyone able to confirm if that tweet was actually her? if so, it would be pretty stupid (although an accurate reflection of her dad).  Its also pathetic - people make fun of me for being stuck in the 80s but even I know an obsolete catch phrase - "haters are gonna hate" !?  lol, why not just tell us all to "talk to the hand" :P

georgec said:

walking_carpet said:

when obi-wan said "you were right about one thing master...the negotiations were short"

no one in the theatre even chuckled.

overall,  its hard to pinpoint exact lines but it was irritating to constantly here panaka talk about how something wouldn't work or he doesn't agree  and also the number of times qui-gon tell someone to 'trust my judgment'.  im sure in reality it only occured a few times each, but it seems like thats what these characters were doing most of the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7thq-84O7A&feature=related

excellent 

Baronlando said:

A few shots have been re-arranged. (when the pillar is falling on Anakin and Obi and Yoda stops it, as Dooku escapes) I gave the disc back so I don't have it right now to check, but I think you can even hear the cut in the music. (I'll look around for a better description)

LOL, so my neighbor downstairs rented this and and I stopped over to watch.

Im suprised this hasn't gotten more response - i guess its ok to make the PT worse ;)  but we were like WTF!?  its so bad we thought the blu ray player jumped!  and the music is also now thrown off by it!

 basically-

-yoda moves the pillar away from obi-wan

-yoda is just looking

-anakin regains consciousness while obi-wan looks at him

-dookus ship takes off and padme tries to shoot it down

-yoda then grabs his cane and walks away

 before -

-yoda moves the pillar away from obi-wan

-dookus ship takes off and padme tries to shoot it down

-anakin regains consciousness while obi-wan looks at him

-yoda is just looking

-yoda then grabs his cane and walks away

 it may have been for just a few seconds and doesn't kill it like the stupid "alert my star destroyer" - but it feels like something got botched and caused the disc to jump and re-adjust!

if this isn't some freak authoring anomaly and lucas personally did this, I never want to hear any more crap about his vaunted editing skills (which were overrated anyway)

i cant even think of why he would want to do this.  this was probably the only scene in the PT that became a pop-culture moment - and now the ending of it sucks.

don't have the blu-rays but i've seen pictures of the collection and one thing i noticed:

looks like there is an illustration of all the major star wars characters inside the case.  Theres been discussion of how there is a disproportionate representation of the PT characters, which looks to be true and i think its funny.

Looking at this, I noticed I didn't see bail organa (jimmy smits).   I checked a couple sites for the same picture.  is he missing?  don't think i saw any post on this, so I thought i'd ask. 

He's merely the guy who helps yoda escape and adopts princess leia so I think it would be funny if he was missing.

i read parts of this book and its pretty funny.  kinda remarkable how she can laugh at herself and all her mishaps cuz she was really on a destructive path for so many years.

its too bad she did not have much of an acting career after OT.  but she is a talented storyteller and should write more scripts.  wonder if her daughter will become an actress?

its funny that for a while, many actors did not want to appear in blockbuster franchises because they did not want to be typecast like fisher, hamill and to some extent christopher reeve for superman.  but nowadays,  top notch actors want to take the opportunity to star in these kinds of movies.  What has changed?  are franchise movies better produced or have movie audiences changed so that an actor won't be completely identified with just one role?

no longer 'hate' the prequels.  won't watch TPM again, but could pop in AOTC and ROTS on a rainy day like a friday the 13th sequel.  better that than the transformer movies.

during the time they came out 1999-2004, i was angry at what i thought was blatant and obscene squandering of what could have been something wonderful.  I was disgusted at lucas' profound underacheivement and explotation of the OOT phenomenon and goodwill.  fans from the 70s and 80s know what im talking about  (for those that grew up with OT but too young to see in theatres, you truly missed a phenomenon that was one for the ages). 

but im not angry anymore because its obvious that there never was a 'saga' and the PT was every bit as contrived as the rocky sequels.  and lucas is simply a very poor filmmaker.  

So the films themselves I no longer hate.  But crap like Rick McCallum saying "we don't want to make the biggest movie of all time or the most special-effects laden film of all time.  Sure we want these films to be beautiful and have the best production design, but the most important thing is the story and characters". 

Its like a baseball fan thats pissed about all the home run records being broken with guys taking PEDs.

when obi-wan said "you were right about one thing master...the negotiations were short"

no one in the theatre even chuckled.

overall,  its hard to pinpoint exact lines but it was irritating to constantly here panaka talk about how something wouldn't work or he doesn't agree  and also the number of times qui-gon tell someone to 'trust my judgment'.  im sure in reality it only occured a few times each, but it seems like thats what these characters were doing most of the time.