twooffour

CP3S said:

twooffour said:

Well I don't care about your fantasies,

No worries. My fantasies don't care about you either.

 

but, if Ah hayed to trahst mah goots, I'd say that "ass injured" is more like something a redneck would say.

Having had the misfortune of spending a period of time living among rednecks, I can say no, it really isn't.

 

Butthurt is a very common, and very cool, classic INTERNETS meme.

Huh, I guess I am a total n00b. I've honestly never heard "butthurt" before. Many of the rednecks I've worked with seem to have a habit of inserting the word "butt" into as many sentences as they can manage. 

I am not much on the whole memes thing. Collective inside jokes shared among millions of people has never really struck my fancy, I think it is the boring non-conformist in me. As far as memes go, I guess a few of them are somewhat amusing, but I think this one needs to die a horrible death. It makes anyone who uses it sound like they should be in special education. I don't think any words that does that can be considered "very cool". Just because a bunch of ten year olds on the internet use it and find it funny, probably doesn't mean you should take it and run with it.

No worries. My fantasies don't care about you either.

Having had the misfortune of spending a period of time living among rednecks, I can say no, it really isn't.

Collective inside jokes shared among millions of people has never really struck my fancy

It makes anyone who uses it sound like they should be in special education.

Just because a bunch of ten year olds on the internet use it and find it funny, probably doesn't mean you should take it and run with it.

Gaffer Tape said:

It's hard for me to discuss this with a serious face, but basically, I'm treating Gaffer just like any other (male) member, and yet with those you're not saying anything like "if you're gonna treat men like that in real life, you're not getting in their pants".

 

I would reluctantly say that he actually made a good, intelligent post here that I actually somewhat agree with, that doesn't make him sound holier-than-thou, and in which I can't find much in the way of faulty logic... but I made the mistake of saying that earlier today in regards to the Politics thread, and look where that got us.

I guess the moral is, is that even when you're agreeing with twooffour he can't allow to you win, so I guess he just has to point out how wrong you are for agreeing with him.

But if I'm wrong for agreeing with him, wouldn't it stand to follow that what I was agreeing with was wrong?  Otherwise, why would he be against me agreeing with it?  But if he was wrong, he wouldn't be right.  But he's always right!  But if I was agreeing with something that was wrong, and he has to be righter than everyone else, then he would be righter than everyone else, but then how could he be wro...

EXPLOSION!!!

Daisy, daisy, give me your answer doooooooooo...

Crap, I just had a twooffour paradox.

You just kinda fail at sarcasm.

You're easily forgetting that in that same post where you "approved" of my banal comment about homosexuality in Politics (about as banal as this one), you then went on to act like a disingenuous dick.

I might fish out the post for you if you've forgotten (it must be somewhere... in one of these two threads), but I'm sure you remember.

And THAT was the part I replied to in that adversary tone. NOT the agreeing part.

So your whole "sarcasm shatters the universe" chain from that moment on, crumbles under its own lameness.
The paradox to asplode the universe, was asploded.
It was the day when the paradox... became a ahh fuck it.

Gaffer Tape said:

I find it almost fascinating and more than a little terrifying that you've actually gone to this much trouble to so definitively assign motives and complete scenarios for every single person who has engaged you in conversation (and, of course, in every single one of those scenarios, you just so happen to be the only voice of reason surrounded by idiots or mean folk or people who just don't get you... even though you're a self-described rabble rouser... HYPOCRISY MUCH? UNINTENDED IRONY?  BUTTHURT?! =P).  Of course, I find it even more troubling that you actually seem to believe any of it.

I find it almost fascinating and more than a little terrifying that you've actually gone to this much trouble to so definitively assign motives and complete scenarios for every single person who has engaged you in conversation

and, of course, in every single one of those scenarios, you just so happen to be the only voice of reason surrounded by idiots or mean folk or people who just don't get you

even though you're a self-described rabble rouser...

HYPOCRISY MUCH? UNINTENDED IRONY?  BUTTHURT?!

Of course, I find it even more troubling that you actually seem to believe any of it.

Gaffer Tape said:

No, Frink!  You can't say things like that!  If you say you didn't read a post, or almost didn't read a post, or read a post on the wrong day of the week, or read a post in a way he didn't like you to read the post, or read the Saturday Evening Post, he's going to have ammunition to invalidate everything you say for the rest of your life.

Oh... like he wasn't going to do that anyway.

I admit I don't hear any hillbilly or ten year old voices, but I do register a monotonous buzzing whenever I read any of his quote pyramid rants, and it does tend to give one a headache.

I laughed when reading this, but on a serious note (only because you're seemingly not getting it):

Yea, that's it in a nutshell, basically.
If you're not reading someone's contributions, you better as well quit replying, because you don't know what he said, and you might come off as a laughing stock without realizing it.

Aren't you thankful for this advice? Well, no need to thank me and all, just make sure you FUCKING STOP REPLYING OR MAKING SNARKY REMARKS, if keeping up means headache for you.

Come on, health is important than some stupid internet battle. Get a sleep or something, go outside :D

TV's Frink said:

CP3S said:

twooffour said:

butthurt

 

How would you feel about using the word "ass injured" instead of "butthurt" from now on?

I've stopped reading his posts entirely now.  Guess I'll go back and read that one.

So here's the basic rule of internet arguing for you.

How to avoid making yourself a laughing stock:
If you don't read someone's posts, don't reply to or talk to them. Or say anything to, or about, the poster.
People who DO read them, including the poster, will laugh at you.
The other ones', you don't really want their appreciation.

So let's see if you can keep this up :D

TV's Frink said:

CP3S said:

twooffour said:

butthurt

 

How would you feel about using the word "ass injured" instead of "butthurt" from now on?

Did he really say that again?  I've stopped reading his posts entirely now.  Guess I'll go back and read that one.

And you said you were hip :(

CP3S said:

twooffour said:

So then why do you say he.

And yea, keep tossing clichéd cheap shots, that'll make you right again.

Reading back over it, it did come off as a cheap shot. I wasn't really trying to use it as a jab like "you're such a loser you've never had sex" but more of "if you always talk to women like that you're never going to get any".

Well, first of all, I'm not trying to get Gaffer Tape, second, I might've mentioned it already to some (incl. Gaffer Tape), but I generally don't treat people in real life as I do on the internets.

It's hard for me to discuss this with a serious face, but basically, I'm treating Gaffer just like any other (male) member, and yet with those you're not saying anything like "if you're gonna treat men like that in real life, you're not getting in their pants".
I realize I've just opened a can of worms, though...

You're also not saying "they're gonna fucking beat you up", because you know damn well how stupid that would sound, and even more sexist than you're already being at this very moment :PP

CP3S said:

twooffour said:

butthurt

 

How would you feel about using the word "ass injured" instead of "butthurt" from now on?

Every time you use "butthurt" the accent for you in my head turns to a backwoods hillbilly accent or that of a squeaky shrill voiced 10 year old, and both of those really annoy me.

I think you'll find using cooler words gets you further in life too. Just sayin': might be a part of your vocabulary that you'd be better off leaving in middle school.

Well I don't care about your fantasies, but, if Ah hayed to trahst mah goots, I'd say that "ass injured" is more like something a redneck would say.

At any rate, congratulations on revealing yourself as a complete n00b - I thought you were joking before with that whole "containing it in quotation marks" thing!

Butthurt is a very common, and very cool, classic INTERNETS meme.

I'm glad you've caught the "uncool 10th grader" aspect of it all, but you're missing out on the intentional irony.
It's SUPPOSED to mimick some small kid (or rather, an adult behaving like one) with an expression like this:



Offended, and demonstratively upset over something rather trivial, or maybe even humorous.

It's SUPPOSED to sound childish, kinda "cute" and innocent. (Innocent as in, completely unable to tell what a joke is.)
Ass injured sounds violent, and it also implies actual injury, not falling on the floor and starting to cry.

So learn your memes, and back off with this stupid nonsense, PLEASE.

Gaffer Tape said:

Has anyone ever mentioned that your posts read like listening to The Ultimate Warrior speak?  While huffing paint?

Nothing but a lot of jargon and repetitive fluff that goes on for far too long but actually means absolutely nothing (in your case to desperately cling to the notion that you're always right).  Oh, and DESTRUCITY!

So yea, so much for that.
I think you just want immediate expressions of love and gratitude for your wise "advices" and "aiding", and when someone questions a part of it, you go all "not if you're gonna be like that!" and get offended.

 

Oh, and I almost forgot about the rationalizing.  Thanks for reminding me.  Okay, so if that's how I am, and I only extend a friendly hand in order to further my sinister agenda of getting newbies to worship me, why is it that all these other people, people who don't do that, also don't like you?

Oh, wait, it's because they're so jealous that their opinions aren't as factual as yours.

Has anyone ever mentioned that your posts read like listening to The Ultimate Warrior speak?  While huffing paint?

Oh wait... there is no irony.






























There is no such thing...
.... as irony.

Whatever :)

Nothing but a lot of jargon and repetitive fluff that goes on for far too long but actually means absolutely nothing (in your case to desperately cling to the notion that you're always right).

Okay, so if that's how I am, and I only extend a friendly hand in order to further my sinister agenda of getting newbies to worship me, why is it that all these other people, people who don't do that, also don't like you?

Despite the fact that you were acting like a dick in that same post, too, and I had all the justification for responding the way I did. Which I've explained, too.


So, the others, eh?

CP doesn't like me - in fact, stopped "kinda liking me despite all the dumbshit I post so often", within a millisecond, because of some stupid joke I made at the "expense" of someone else.
He then couldn't get over the fact that it was a joke for several pages, and I have the awful feeling that he still doesn't.

So that's one.

CP3S said:

twooffour said:

Thought he was a she?

 

He is a she, dumbass. You should read her sig.

And if you treat all women like that, it is no surprise you're still a virgin.

 

Oh no, you said dumbass.

Why don't you suggest yourself to get banned? ;)

Ziggy Stardust said:

twooffour said:
3rd worthless vote: by the guy who also says "blah blah" and has "shut up" as one of the justifications for his vote (he didn't name any others)

Says the guy who's losing.

Besides, your posts are the only justifications I need.

 

Said the guy who said "blah blah" and "shut up". And nothing else.
And then he tells me I'm "losing".

Yes, smart alec, there would in fact be no "justifications" for... me acting in a certain way... outside of my posts.
Thing is, you can't just say "your posts", you'll have to find the right passages and explain why.

Since you're not backing anything up, I'd say you're just tossing around unsupported exclamations.
Keep doing that, I'm not replying to any more of those :D

CP3S said:

twooffour said:

Thought he was a she?

 

He is a she, dumbass. You should read her sig.

And if you treat all women like that, it is no surprise you're still a virgin.

 

So then why do you say he.

And yea, keep tossing clichéd cheap shots, that'll make you right again.

TV's Frink said:

twooffour said:

TV's Frink said:

CP3S said:

Gaffer Tape said:

*Gaffer Rage!*

*SMASH*

Wow. Out of all my years here, I don't think I have ever seen Gaffer get upset with anyone like this before. He's always kind of been the Ambassador of Peace. But then again, out of all my years on the internets, I've never quite seen anything like twooffour.

This is exactly what I was saying, but twooffour is so blind to everything except his own rightness that he will never understand it.

IT'S NOW PAGE NINE OF MY THREAD OF INSANITY, AND I'M STILL TRYING TO WIN!!!!!!!!!

 

You're already done this schtick, and it doesn't catch on I'm afraid.

Nah, I'm not trying to "win". There's nothing to win against.
You're being pointed to errors, and gaping hypocrisies, in your posts and accusations, and can't say a word in defense.

I'm not winning. You're failing.

CP3S said:

Gaffer Tape said:

*Gaffer Rage!*

*SMASH*

Wow. Out of all my years here, I don't think I have ever seen Gaffer get upset with anyone like this before. He's always kind of been the Ambassador of Peace. But then again, out of all my years on the internets, I've never quite seen anything like twooffour.

As amusing as he has been, when he inevitably gets banned I am not going to be shedding any tears. He's already been temp banned once for insulting Moth3r, so he is on pretty thin ice. I'd honestly be surprised if he makes it to the end of this month without finding a way to get himself a permanent ban, but then again, he may surprise me.

He's always kind of been the Ambassador of Peace.

As amusing as he has been, when he inevitably gets banned I am not going to be shedding any tears.

He's already been temp banned once for insulting Moth3r, so he is on pretty thin ice.

TV's Frink said:

CP3S said:

Gaffer Tape said:

*Gaffer Rage!*

*SMASH*

Wow. Out of all my years here, I don't think I have ever seen Gaffer get upset with anyone like this before. He's always kind of been the Ambassador of Peace. But then again, out of all my years on the internets, I've never quite seen anything like twooffour.

This is exactly what I was saying, but twooffour is so blind to everything except his own rightness that he will never understand it.

This statement may or may not have substance, depending on the context.

Seeing as how, right now, this context is that you've called me an asshole after having been an asshole to me yourself (like on the Politics thread recently), and now instead of somehow addressing that, you instead reply with yet more of "he always wants to be right" bullshit.

I've already posted a long essay about when I think it's appropriate to consider yourself right (basically, when your opponents are extremely stupid, extremely sloppy, or extremely hypocritical), and when not, I've linked to it a couple times in this very thread, but don't mind reading that.

Just keep insisting how I think I'm always right, and can never see it when someone else has the high ground (implying that you ever had any in this weekend).
I see it's more convenient.

TV's Frink said:

twooffour, you're acting like such an asshole that you've got regulars who hardly ever say shit about ANYONE telling you how awful you are.

If bkev or doubleofive vote against you, I will declare you worst ot.com member ever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scratch that, second worst.  There isn't anything to indicate you are a pedophile.

Wait, there was a pedophile on here?

If bkev or doubleofive vote against you, I will declare you worst ot.com member ever.

There you have it, you go by what people think, not by any kind of solid reasoning :D
So why should I care about a judgment based on such horrible non-reasons?

you're acting like such an asshole that you've got regulars who hardly ever say shit about ANYONE telling you how awful you are.

In case I haven't said this enough already, I really don't give a shit about what people think of me, if they can't back it up.
If they're being giant hypocrites while doing that, the better. If they also directly admit to not really knowing what they're voting against, then, oh man, PARTY.

This coming from a guy who just said "blah blah" on the politics thread, yea? And you expect me not to laugh my ass off at that?

*sigh*

Davnes007 said:

If this is how 2of4 is...imagine how annoying 4of4 is.

Thanks, but no thanks ;)

and not because I didn't stop reading your fucking posts, but just because you're an asshole

Yea, seeing as how you kinda weren't reading my posts long before you left.

Not sure how much of a "warp" that is, though, considering that it's basically what happened.


At any rate, just in case you think of complaining about how douchey and condescending I was being when telling you how to argue properly (since you obviously hadn't known that prior to this), take a look at this:

I jumped into the thread to tell them to lay off, that you were new, and then gave you the advice on how to behave like a mature human being

Ah, right right, wasn't that the one where you lectured me about social rules in different real life situations, how they applied here, too, and how "new" members in a social group weren't supposed to "jab" older members while the "veterans" could?
I think it was about SkyJedi?

Or was it something else?
Well yea, what I replied to you was basically, that this ain't real life, it's a message board.
Maybe I also added that being a dick from time to time is fun, but I don't think that was my major point. It sure is a hell lot more entertaining and liberating than getting butthurt and offended over things like "you don't pay attention", or "you're wrong", or berating everyone how they should be nicer to people.
(Just to clarify, it's only "fun" when there's some tongue-in-cheek sarcasm, and stealth jabs, involved. That's fun to read, and sometimes fun to write; not so much that angry, self-serious "you fucktwat" ranting you did above.)

At any rate, I think you just kinda sighed and shrugged, rolled your eyes and moved on after that, so that was underwhelming.



So yea, so much for that.
I think you just want immediate expressions of love and gratitude for your wise "advices" and "aiding", and when someone questions a part of it, you go all "not if you're gonna be like that!" and get offended.

But I don't remember that older exchange very well.

For the last time, I never stopped reading your fucking posts, you little twat.

Yes, you were complaining about how you were so offended, by me accusing you of "not paying attention" (which you weren't), that you ALMOST stopped reading.
And there you are, telling me how you "never actually stopped reading my posts"... while insisting how you hadn't misread anything I'd written.... just "not bought it"... and then you're telling me how not everything is irony... LOL!

Sometimes, people can read every stupid piece of shit that comes out of your bilge-spewing fingers and still, gasp, happen to not buy it.

Yes, but in your case, you weren't really paying attention, rather than understanding and "not buying" it.
I can dig that shit up you know, but what for? You've just provided another example of that right here :D

Just FYI, on internet forums, and in real life debates, it matters less how right you actually are to the God of Absolute Knowledge, and much, much more, how you can ARGUE that you're right.
And arguing means, backing up. Right is whoever can back up. Wrong is whoever can't, or can't defend the others' argument.

So if I say you have misread my post (almost as if you hadn't paid attention), and can demonstrate how I said one thing while you responded to the other, WITH NOTHING BUT AN ANGRY RANT FROM YOU IN RESPONSE, then that means, for the time being, I'm right.
If you've understood my post, but don't show any signs of it, don't reply to a single point in it, and are behaving exactly as if you would if you hadn't read it (almost so much it'd take a miracle for you to actually have read it), then for all intents and purposes, I can say you haven't paid attention to it, and I'd be right.

"Show, don't tell", as an old writing rule says.
You can SAY that you've "read and understood everything", but you'll have to SHOW that in order to be believed.
And it doesn't help if what you're showing, is the exact opposite - like when you're clearly arguing against a strawman. You may BELIEVE you're arguing against the right thing, which is why you SAY "hey listen fucktard I got all!!", but it's OBVIOUS FROM YOUR POST that, actually, you haven't.

So again, back up and demonstrate, otherwise it ain't legitimate.

So there, I've given you some well-meaning advice on how to effectively argue on the internet, and not come off as an angry laughing stock. Will you kindly accept that, or react like a major dick?

Go fuck yourself.

Wow; you little twat; now that was rude! ;)
Seriously, though, doesn't help you either if you accuse me of acting like an "asshole", while simultaneously being ruder than I've ever been, let alone to you ;)

Now, speaking of irony...

And, seriously, not EVERYTHING is irony, as much as you'd like it to be so.

No, it's rather as much as you make it to be, and it just happens to be as much as I like it, too.

It's not like I just said "oh the irony!" and then ran away - I explain exactly how a given remark drips of unintentional irony (that's, in a nutshell, "amusing hypocrisy without realizing it", like telling someone something, while actually that something applies to you, and not to him; two levels of irony if this something is said in a sarcastic mode while actually being wrong in the sarcastic sense, but right if taken at face value; three levels if that's how you're perceiving your opponent, while actually it doesn't apply; and so forth), I also enjoy it more that way.

So I'm afraid you can't just shrug it off as "no, it isn't" after all those delicious breakdowns :D
You come off as very angry for someone who just wasn't pointed to a shitload of hilarious unintentional irony in their own posts, though. Why so?

Seriously - as I've said above, back your shit up.

because you feel compelled to prove yourself right against it.

Well, so far, I've been quoting a dictionary to support my view against someone who said I was challenging the dictionary (there's some irony for you right there), so not sure exactly what you mean by "proving myself right against it".

At any rate, this is pretty much how I've always seen the word "irony" being used. What, you know some other definition? Oops.



___

Too long. Concluded in Part 2.

The issue is that you treat our opinions as facts that can be debunked. Thus you are rude and make nonsensical arguments.

I thought we were talking about the difference between opinions and facts, not talking about how people might misuse those terms in everyday language.

In everyday conversation, people will claim all kinds of things are facts. But how about that one man or that one pencil that didn't hit the ground?

TV's Frink said:

I vote for twooffour.

CURRENT SCORE:

twooffour - 1 (Frink)
everyone else - 0

So then why doesn't this vote stand? ;)

Gaffer Tape said:

twooffour said:

Gaffer Tape said:

Okay, I do want to start out by saying that twooffour's last post in the politics thread was actually on-topic, relatively well-constructed, and wasn't the least bit insulting, condescending, or arrogant.  I have no problem calling him out when it's necessary, but there's really no reason to go after his posts when he's actually behaving like a decent poster.  In my opinion, it just devalues the criticisms that he actually deserves.

But all that said, I have to cast my ballot for twooffour.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious, but as it seems, I've been talking to a brickwall in my last response to you.

Why did you even ask?
I challenged you to provide a REASON for me to think that I "deserve" this criticism, and what do I get? Some flabby "vote". Anyone can vote, much fewer can justify their votes.


So basically, as far as I'm concerned at this stage, all your "criticisms" are just hot air and entirely worthless, and I have no reason to take any of them seriously.

Thanks for providing the second worthless vote, after the first one :D

Well, once again, I come to your aid and petition people to treat you fairly (even though you've given no one any reason to do so), and, once again, you act like a major dick in response.  And once again, I have to ask why I even bother.

But if you really feel no one's given you an answer, go to the thread full of archived quotes of yours. See my above post where I qualified what counted as a good post of yours. Reverse those attributes, and you have what constitutes a normal post of yours, the posts that I believe "deserve" criticism.

LOOOOOOOL... where to even begin?

Well, once again, I come to your aid

And when was the last time? All I remember is you sarcastically wallowing in just how much I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, concede that someone else might be right about anything, anything, anything.
But my memory may be failing me.

and petition people to treat you fairly

Well I did say "thanks for pointing out the obvious", which, and I hope I'm not sounding like a major dick by saying that, is a rather enormous feat by the last three days' standards.

Frink was obviously so taken in by the madness, he didn't realize just how incredibly stupid it was to take a perfectly legitimate post and quote it as "blah blah blah" because of some stupid shit in another thread.
And then go create a vote about "who's the problem".

A bit of common sense is really like a breath of fresh air in dark hours like this, so yea, thanks, whatever. Mad props to Frink for "agreeing" after called on it a second time, only by someone else - awesome achievement there.

Tiger Wooo, Tiger Wooo, I like.

(even though you've given no one any reason to do so)

Like, you mean, posting a sensible post in a politics thread? That kind of reason?

Having that said, it was really just a banal aside footnote to a discussion I had no real grasp of, so I don't need anyone to lend their "support" to it, thanks.
If Frink wants to make an idiot out of himself, he's welcome to do that. And you to come to HIS aid.

and, once again, you act like a major dick in response.

You completely went over the lengthy response I'd written to you after you asked why I didn't consider myself the problem in this situation.
To declare how right you had been with your "sarcasm", and your "implication".

Now THAT was a dick move on your part, and that you're now calling me a jerk for pointing that out, really says it all.

A bit like the last time, when you got "offended", and had even almost stopped reading my post, because I told you that you hadn't "paid attention"... after you really, and demonstrably, hadn't paid attention :DD

Accidental irony, I eat it up like honey.

But if you really feel no one's given you an answer, go to the thread full of archived quotes of yours.

I've said this before, but yea, if you think that a bunch of out-of-context quotes, of which at least 2 were jokes, and at least another half was semi-humorous, passes for an "answer", then, oh well.

There again you're tapping in "unintentional irony" land - after a lengthy post to you, where I described when it could be justified to consider yourself "right" in a discussion (even of opinions), all you can offer is a collection of stripped down quotes of mine... where I tell people they're wrong.

How much FAIL can one squeeze in one short response??
___
Here's an answer: even more.
As if your post hadn't enough levels of unintentional irony already, here's another one - in my lengthy response above, I was talking about how a user not reading, or completely going over their opponents' comments, while still continuing to reply / argue / insist on their own position, was in clear disadvantage, and basically, for all intents and purposes, "wrong" as long as they didn't back up.

And how, correspondingly, the user on the other side would have all the reason to consider themselves in the right, as, you know... the other one doesn't even know what he was talking about!

And well, there you are, after obviously completely skipping my response, continuing to argue, insist that you're right, and complaining about what a dick I am.
And not just right about anything... but me being wrong about... calling other users wrong... for not reading my god damn comments.

This is... so... fucking... good.

Mrebo said:

General Frink, count me in.

I honestly don't see the point of this thread, other than to mock xhonzi's.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Is-Part-3-of-Anything-Ever-Good/post/513984/#TopicPost513984

Now you know better.

Had I thought of more good 4th parts, I would've mentioned them.

TV's Frink said:

For someone who said the vote does not equal truth, you sure seem awfully concerned about it...

Or maybe, for someone who said the vote doesn't equal truth, I have just the right amount of fun pointing how just how much it doesn't equal truth.

Lame, Frink. Lame.

You can count me out, by the way, I never voted for anything.