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I cared about official canon when I first learned it existed for tv/movies. Then I learned more about it and how petty and childish the official canon of tv/movie property can be handled made me not care much about it beyond discussion about said show/movie on message boards. I mean in 2nd BSG Ron Moore seems to expect his words in interviews to be taken as the official stance instead of explaining it in the show itself. Some interviews I've only heard about, not seen the original source of, seemed to explain a whole bunch of stuff during the show's initial production. Yet in the show itself it remains completely absent of explanation. Just reminds me of a kid refusing to add an explanatory paragraph to an essay.

Further things like the "levels" of canon where George Lucas canon is atop the levels of Star Wars official canon. Really seemed petty to me.

It feels like the creators of these works of fictional entertainment want to say "you're wrong" to the audience and have the last word. Instead of allowing it to be entertainment that the audience can interpret from the work itself apart from the author. In essence "official canon", whatever it's initial intentions, seems to have evolved into a way to demean the audience and stop them from "one-upping" the authors. To that I say personal canon all the way!!!!!!

darklordoftech said:

In addition to that, "Sith" is largely a prequelism, so Disney and Abrams might want to avoid it.

Reegar said:

They come across like sugar-coated candy sticks in the Geonosis arena.

I never could put my finger on what was wrong with the lightsabers in that scene. The coloring? The casual way they're handled by a crowd of Jedi? It went beyond their over-use, as RedLetterMedia mentioned. Something else is wrong that only my subconscious can detect.

DuracellEnergizer said:

I didn't know they were starting to delete accounts after ninety days, though -- that's just bullshit.

http://www.google.com/+/policy/pagesterm.html
Google may, without notice, remove your Google+ Pages if they are dormant for more than nine months.

Youtube and Google + "integration" = complete suck

Apart from everything that's been talked about before on this subject elsewhere, I'll share what annoys me about it. They treat you differently depending on how you decide to "integrate".

If you choose to keep your YT name you're asked to agree to the terms of creating a Google + page and then you're asked if you want to use different or the same name across your Google account. That's it your Google + page is automatically created and it throws you onto an entirely different page than you were on before.

If you choose to use your Google account name(whatever that might be it doesn't need to be your real name) you're treated entirely differently. It's like a first class experience compared to the cargo hold experience of keeping your YT name. You get asked if you want to review your video content and if you want to make your video content private. You're asked if there are any comments you want to delete. You're asked to even see how it's going to look on playlists. Then when you get around to seeing your Google + page you get to choose certain things. You're asked if there's anyone you want to follow and you even get a step two to "be awesome". Then on your YT account you get three messages automatically. A welcome message to Google +, a message about first impressions of your Google + profile, and who to follow suggestions mine included the Nobel Prize suggestion to follow.

I have two YT accounts for different purposes so that's why I did both options. There's another option of editing your Google name to something else but I've not tried that. All in all I only did this because I feel like it'll become mandatory in the future. Moreover I feel that they're going to automatically change over accounts that don't do it. All speculation on my part of course. Either way it's really annoying how you get treated differently based off of what you choose to keep. I mean that had to be deliberate. Another thing is that you agree to the Google + terms if you keep your YT name. If you keep your Google name you're informed that a Google + page will be created but you're not directly asked to agree to the terms. So technically one of my account may not be held to Google +'s policies. That's a significant thing since the Google + terms open up your account for possible deletion if you're inactive on it after a certain period of time. A timeframe of about 90 days I think. So not only do they treat you worse they also force you to agree to terms that allows for possible account deletion if you don't log on every 90 days. So a few months from now some older YT video content could be completely gone due to inactive accounts. All because they want to "integrate" Google + with YT...

It sucks plain and simple.

So, stuff happened and that's why I haven't been posting much. I may or may not get into the details. I'll decide later...

If I was magically put in charge of it at the time and I had the option to undo my influence on the film I'd make radical changes. Han dies, Leia uses force powers in the end battle with Vader, Emperor, and Luke, stuff like that. Some things I'd throw in there just to see if it'd go well with the audience. Throw in some dissension over Leia still holding the royalty title after the planet blew up from the other rebels. Bye bye Ewoks, hello alternate but still feasible alien race. Also throw out any love drama beyond Leia seeing Han die and the ramifications of that.
If it turns out bad revert to the original timeline. Also if it turns out good still return to original timeline but wait for a while.

If I was magically put in charge but with no option to undo what I've done. Also with zero option to back out I'd have to direct the film 'cause magic. I'd probably try to make it as similar as possible to what I remember as the original. Admittedly that'd be tough as Jedi is my least viewed Star Wars film. Still I'd try my best. Good thing is that I barely ever watched the SE of Jedi so it's practically guaranteed not to influence the production. I don't know, I just wouldn't want to permanently erase the original story from the timeline. Given what this site is and everything, it wouldn't feel right.

They look like something to decorate store display cases. Like maybe it was slid onto the top of a DVD/VHS shelf thing in a store.

NeverarGreat said:

Lucas's idea of the Jedi in ROTJ was much different than in the prequels, and I think much more interesting. I get the feeling that there was a warrior class and a priest or guru class, and only the warriors were called Jedi. These were doctrinally male, and to become Jedi they were trained by the gurus or priests in the ways of the Force, inheriting lightsabers from their fathers. The knowledge to construct lightsabers was lost long ago, so there's an ever dwindling number of them, and they are rare and highly prized possessions. I really wish Lucas had stuck with this idea through the prequels.

TV's Frink said:

Tack said:

my blog has just published an essay

Your blog is self-aware?  Well that's not good...

TV's Frink said:

Tyrphanax said:

Personally I love to seed. I seed like a madman.

Gross.

SilverWook said:

Ryan McAvoy said:


Han probably never read a book in his life. Unless it was...

^

the article said:

eliminate the movie post-production process.

So I guess it's just me but it seems that there's so much over complication going on here about Luke's credibility. It's very simple and already in the original presentation of the Star Wars film.

Ben Kenobi mentions Luke's Father being a good pilot. We can assume he's a good pilot too. Luke goes on the journey to rescue Princess Leia. Leia knows Ben, goes with Luke(and Han) after being told that they're with Ben. Leia sees Ben die and Luke being devastated. Luke obviously knew Ben pretty well. Luke demonstrates his shooting ability upon their escape. It's not out of the question that Leia vouched for his credibility upon arrival. Maybe even under the assumption that Ben taught him to fly.

Boom simple, the original film already has a good enough reason for why Luke was allowed to join the space battle. No need to over complicate things with the EU, SE, radio drama stuff.

Luke is part of the successful rescue of the Princess and the Death Star plans. At that point he's not just some farm boy.

DominicCobb said:

SilverWook said:
Read and be amazed...

<a href="http://imgur.com/a/Up1J4" target="_blank" title="imgur.com/a/Up1J4">http://imgur.com/a/Up1J4</a>

Whoa, that's really strange. It's like a satire of the last four SW films - but before they came out. Which is weird because the only universe shrinking that happened in the two films that were out at the time was the revelation that SPOILER Vader is Luke's father (which actually isn't that much of a shrink because there was already a connection there).

Ah, back when they were still called Sci-Fi channel. Good times for that channel good times...

Bingowings said:

Magic healing device was magic and healed and was a device.

SilverWook said:

The concept of MHB, goes back at least to the 60's.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065303/

Bingowings said:

My personal favorite is the one in B5.

For getting June Lockhart and Bill Mumy (who I think looks a bit like our very own Gaffer Tape) back in the same show together alone it was worth it's use.

Tyrphanax said:

They could call it Star Hike.

NeverarGreat said:

Imagine, if you will, Star Wars without a battle between capital ships, without the construction of a lightsaber, without ever really meeting the Emperor, without C-3PO translating a non-robot language (yes, this is the only movie where he is genuinely useful!).

So in several bits of fiction lately the magic healing blood device has been utilized. All it makes me wonder is why? It seems like in 2005ish it got used in 2ndBSG and then it opened the magic healing blood device floodgates. Maybe it was used before but off the top of my head I'm not remembering anything that did. Apart from it being an easy out for writers in terms of bringing characters back it really serves no purpose. It weakens to narrative of the story and is annoying. It seems just to be an easy writing crutch to fall back on, like the "it was all a dream" thing that used to get used a lot. I'm personally hoping that it dies out....

What are your thoughts on this plot device?

Do you believe in the MySpleen apocalypse???

Of course, when a lot of capable digital filmmakers get involved, the possibilities of new effects and enhancements—the stuff that director’s cuts and special editions are made of—is on the table. Parker noted that there is at least one VFX shot the team wants to add, but they didn't have time to do so if the goal was a Mill Valley screening.

So attendees and near future viewers can expect an original edit as last seen in 1980.

cain spaans said:

I hear the rumered title is A New Dawn

Anakin Skywalker said:

"I don't like sand. It's coarse, rough, and irritating. And It get's everywhere."