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#1485080
Topic
Shang Chi and the Legacy of the Rings : Complete
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Project complete. you can find it in the IFDB here - https://ifdb.fanedit.org/shang-chi-legacy-of-the-rings/


Hey all. So this is abrupt, but I felt reluctant to talk about this as I have had a lot of trouble doing any work over the last 8 months. I actually got inspired to do some work on this movie though. not sure why, I just seemed to have a really strong idea of what might improve it.

Shang Chi, in my opinion, is a mess. the story threads are too numerous and the editing of those story threads is very confusing. I felt like there was way too much emphasis on Katy and Trevor. The end monster battle was visual garbage. Some flashbacks felt like they disconnected the movie. the plot line of Wen Wu hearing his wife’s voice is ridiculous, especially considering the fight between Shaun and him toward the end where he clearly doesn’t think she’s alive. it weakens his character, better for him to have reverted to his old ways and merely going after power.

so… First I’ll give an edit list and then a short clip.

I’m actually mostly finished with my initial edit, but I’ll open the floor up to any and all thoughts, requests, etc. just like how I did with Captain Marvel.

my edit running time 114 mins (original runtime 132 mins, cut 18 mins)

edit list.

Inserted quote to set the mood.
Removed Wenwu meeting Shaun's mother in the intro sequence, as it confuses his character too soon.
Added Shaun's mother's death and him being shown how powerful and ruthless his father can be.
Removed valet scene,
Moved dinner and karaoke earlier and pared them down greatly.
Showed Shaun getting ready for work AFTER night out and then cut to him arriving at Katy's home.
Zoomed into postcard so it's easier to read.
Colour graded to make Deathdealer more prominent and recognisable.
Removed shots of Xialing training, Shaun was not aware of it.
Extended the flashback with clips from other flashback later in movie.
Removed air hostess.
Removed Wong and Abomination from fighting arena.
Removed Xialing's flashback.
Removed all references to who sent postcard.
Pared down the scaffolding scene, especially removing Katy's bad singing thing.
Removed the strange bit of tension where he has the ninja guy pinned to the floor
Removed Katy stating how 'scary' Wenwu was. There's no basis for this line from her.
Removed Wenwu's criticism's of the name' the Mandarin'.
Inserted Wenwu's first meeting with their mother immediately prior to his tale about family life. it seems to fit better there.
Removed all references to "I hear your mother's voice".
reframed Wenwu and introduced whispering voices when he mentions 'the gate'.
cut to 'water scene' earlier and carried the dialogue over to increase pacing.
reversed shot of Wenwu in the bedroom and colour graded, so I could reuse it later.
Removed the underground carpark 'chase'. it felt like needless additional action sequence and broke the pacing and structure of the movie IMO.
Trimmed Trevor's story about the monkeys. it dragged on.
removed more shots of Trevor in car.
Cut the bit with the 'horse' stopping the car and staring at Trevor.
Slightly reduced the hostility of the village upon their arrival.
Cut down Trevor announcing himself in village. Need to take attention away from him.
Removed Katy being taken to the archery area and told to start learning.
Inserted deleted scene 'Apology'.
Inserted Wenwu sitting on his bed at night time in contemplation.
Inserted some shots of the big lion things lazing on the grass, it looks like morning in that shot and it's a good establisher to suggest passage of time.
Removed Trevor teaching them football.
Introduced whispers to Wenwu scene, night before attack.
Removed Shauns flashback of his mother's death and him training as an assassin. It is all at the beginning now.
Removed Shaun saying "I'm going to kill him".
Removed Katy being told she can't fight.
Trimmed down the fight scenes a lot.
Inserted dialogue "You should've been there" at the culmination of Shaun's first fight with dad.
Added 'whispers' as Wenwu looks at gate just before he jumps.
Inserted small snippet of Shaun in the water just as a visual reminder of what the viewer should be caring about.
Removed Katy being 'allowed' to fight.
Inserted another snippet of Shaun underwater with the flashback of his mother reminding him about the dragon.
Rejigged the dragon emerging from the water so the villagers are watching the water a bit longer preparing to fight the soul eaters, to slightly increase tension.
Cut immediately from the dragon emerging, to the dragon advancing on the village taking out the soul eaters. It's meant to be badass.
During Shaun's fight with Wenwu before the gate, removed the cut back to the village, removing cowardly Trevor and just showing a wide shot of gate.
Removed villagers reactions to Dweller-in-Darkeness, this is an intimate moment between Wenwu and the thing that drew him here.
Removed Shaun's flashbacks to the moments with his dad, they all were kinda negatively loaded. Replaced them with the shots of the happy family before their mother died.
Removed Shaun colapsing the mouth of the gate. If it were that easy, they would have buried it long ago.
Cut majority of Dweller-in-Darkeness CGI fest, it is now a victory tour for Shaun after he won against his father.
Trimmed end dinner scene to remove Katy's brag about shooting the soul eater.
Inserted additional credits and edited title.
Edited 2nd end credits scene to include deleted scene "They're Waiting".

video of monster fight, greatly reduced. original time 5 minutes, edited time 2 minutes. https://vimeo.com/708086560

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#1454663
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
Time

it’s phrased weird. it uses uncommon words/terms and odd sentence structure, featuring callbacks and parallel descriptors. It’s like statements nested within statements, in reverse. I’m sensitive to it because of my learning disability. it takes me 3 times as long as most people to read this type of prose, whereas more standard types, I can read twice as fast as the average person.

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#1454611
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
Time

that is weird. it asked me to rate it and I rated it for everyone.
can you not view them at all?

and while I’m here,

New crawl. I struggle to read the original, I have a type of dyslexia and the way it’s written is strange and confusing.

A NEW HOPE

It is a period of civil war.
Rebels have won their first
major victory against the
evil Galactic Empire; their
spies have managed to
steal secret plans to the
Empire’s ultimate weapon.

The DEATH STAR,
a massive armored space
station will have enough
power to destroy an entire
planet!

Pursued by the Empire,
Princess Leia races home
aboard her starship,
confident that these stolen
plans can save her people
and restore freedom to
the galaxy…

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#1454556
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
Time

Hi all,
I’ve been doing some work on this over last few days.
Been looking at some re-framing, especially in this conversation between Luke and uncle Owen.
I’d also like some editing advice with regards to small time skips.

I have a section that I want to cut out and it results in a time skip of 5 seconds. I have artoo trundling towards Luke and Threepio, then I cut Threepio being mean to Artoo, and the next bit is Artoo trundling alongside Threepio. I have used an edge wipe transition to indicate slight passage of time, but it still feels like a jump cut. if I slow the wipe then it will feel like too much time has passed. I can render that short clip if necessary.

This section, the conversation between Luke and uncle Owen, I have reframed a lot of the shots to accentuate when the characters are forward thinking, being introspective, being blind to the other’s needs etc. I feel it makes the scene more interesting, but I would value some feedback.
https://vimeo.com/638711394

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#1434814
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
Time

ThisIsCreation said:

Id love to see this being finished, i would love a version of the movie that feels like it was actually a fourth movie in a series. id love to hear the alarm of the playing in the background during vader’s entrance.

thank you for saying so. 😃
I don’t intend to abandon this project, I just need to wait until I’m in a better frame of mind.
I’m curious, which specific alarm are you referring to?

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#1434798
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
Time

I have to be honest I’m not feeling a sense of reward working on this like i did with captain marvel.
I don’t know if it’s a case of motivation or inspiration or something else. I think it’s best for me to stop working on this until I feel excited by it.

I’ve edited up until Luke’s first appearance and I’ve removed 5 minutes of footage. I’ve removed what I feel is unnecessary fluff shots such as excess gunfire, running, jawas doing busywork, etc. I’ve cut what I felt was droning and unnecessary exposition that doesn’t really add anything. I’ve done various things with the darth vader scenes, such as reframing shots, tilting the frame, playing with the speed, warping the image.

I’ve rendered these 12 minutes and if anyone is interested in this then I can share it via google drive. it’s too large to go on vimeo and I think it’s too long to qualify as being okay to post in the forums.

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#1434692
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
Time

That sounds really encouraging. 😃
thanks for the extra ideas!

I think it’s important to measure what impact I can have in specific scenes so I want to be careful about how I adjust the framing.
I also find that working with 4K source footage is punishing my PC, I’m using an i5 and motherboard from 2013. my GPU is certainly good but cpu is real bottleneck. so having said that, I think I would get frustrated if I try to do more with attempting to splice footage from Rog1 in there.
I shall come back to it once I’ve done my basic edit…
I’ll do another edit pass at 1080p before I start work on sfx and sound mix.

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#1434679
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
Time

Got some new clips.

first clip is an experiment to deal with those bright flashes. I always hated those bright flashes, they are so harsh and probably not great for epileptics. I looked at the space battle at the start of episode 3 and all the bright flashes in that are followed by smoke from explosions, so that’s what I’m trying.

https://vimeo.com/560133786

second clip is how I’m dealing with Vader’s entrance. I don’t like his pose with hands on hips, it looks kinda camp and really not intimidating. also, I think the close up of his feet among the bodies is more imposing anyway.

https://vimeo.com/560133817

third clip is how I wish to introduce tension and conflict to add to the scariness of Vader. I am closing in on the shots, close up on the faces, on the hands round the neck, etc. also, I zoomed in slightly on the throw and started the camera further right and whipped it to the left in order to hopefully give the throw a feeling of more speed and violence.

https://vimeo.com/560133219

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#1434625
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
Time

4throck said:

triadne said:

hi all,
I’ve completed the preliminary colour grade.

here is an image of the final scene.

Looks yellow and seems to lack highlights. Perhaps the gamma is wrong I don’t know.
Unless that’s intentional you need to calibrate your monitor 😉

thanks, This is an intentional decision to bring some warmth into the scene.
There’s nothing wrong with the original of course, I just personally feel it is a little flat/cold and doesn’t reflect the feeling of safety after having defeated the threat.

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#1434611
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
Time

Thanks, yes I did do some adjustment of the lighting afterwards to make that work. The part where he’s stood holding the captain is now quite dark and then the light level raises. it helps with that issue, but I agree with your assessment of the filming styles.

It has been my intention to reframe shots here and there and I can introduce dynamism in other shots throughout the film… but that would be a case of trying to fit a round peg in a square hole, by chiselling away at the hole.

Although this sequence is really cool, I think I do have to accept that it’s not going to work.

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#1434588
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
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leftshoe18 said:

I really like using the Rogue One scene as part of the boarding of the Tantive IV. And it works really well! My only concern is that while it works for a small clip of the movie it might end up feeling out of place in the context of the full movie (much like the fan edits that include Sc38 Reimagined).

thank you, I agree that is a real concern so this is why I am super keen to get feedback on this at this stage.
I’ve already cut it to pieces in a bid to help it fit in, but there is a good chance it still won’t fit.
If you think it would be useful, I could render out a longer clip and share it via google drive?

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#1434546
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
Time

Okay, it’s been a moment.
Got caught up working on my video game development.

Got started on this edit now, after ironing out some audio issues.

done a lot of experimenting and trying to see if i can fit in some Rog1 footage.
I’ve gone with this juxtaposition idea, as the rhythm of the Rog1 scene is way different so I’m seeing if it can work this way.
I’d appreciate some feedback on the rhythm and visual of this edit. The audio needs a lot of work but that can come after.
https://vimeo.com/559666229

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#1433846
Topic
Captain Marvel, hoping to make carol a bit more likeable for those who hate her. (COMPLETED)
Time

vmw40 said:

It catches my attention, would you pass the link to me through PM, please 😃

sure thing, please send me a pm request 😃

spottacus said:

This is a huge improvement to a poor movie written by committee. The changes were great. Only tiny bit of criticism is when the line ‘human male’ gets truncated, it’s a bit of a sharp cutoff. Otherwise great work!

thank you! ^^

yes, I struggled with that edit a little. I found it very difficult to make it seamless, so I wanted to leave it as it was in the original but a lot of my test viewers really wanted that bit amended. I totally understand why. I tend to vie for seamless cuts though so it bothered me.
I mean, I think I did pretty well with it, as I used a pitch corrector to change his inflection as much as I could. I guess if it’s really noticeable and if I need to work at it some more, I could take that clip into audacity and bash it about a bit more. ( i used resolve’s standard pitch correction)

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#1426671
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
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Thanks MisterBenja1977 ^_^

Artan42 said:

I managed to get some of the Yavin stuff to load and I like the more tropical feel it gives off. The light skies and dark forest also look like there’s an imminent storm which is a good metaphor.

The lighting in the Laars’ garage may be a bit too dark. I always thought it was too dark compared to AotC in ANH anyway and I never even noticed the skyhopper because of the lighting, but it looks a little creepy with 3P0 as a main light source. (the nighttime scenes, not the daylight ones where he’s playing with the toy).

Most of the Death Star is a matte grey or a blue tinted grey but the scenes of Obi and Vader getting ready for their duel have a redish tint. Is that a Musterfar callback?

Thanks, I’m glad you liked. this is really rich and rewarding feedback and makes me feel some additional motivation 😃

I hadn’t intended to make it look stormy, I was mainly trying to enhance the richness of the trees and the ambience they would give off. That is a wonderful side effect though 😄

unfortunately in the garage at night, that shot with 3po is very dark in the original footage, even with the enhanced bit depth of the UHD source. I played around with that shot a fair bit to try and bring it up, but it always ended up looking muddy. I might be able to fix it in post in some way though. depending on how I edit it, I could introduce some lights and maybe use some painting techniques to introduce detail. it depends though… I mean it is one shot and may not be important enough.
I mean, take a look, this is how much detail is in that shot in the dark sections! not much to work with there ^_^ garage

I like your observation of these shots on the death star. initially, I was looking at Ralph Mcquarrie’s concept art and there were a few colour schemes for the death star. the most common was quite bright with blue tints. there was one piece though that showed Luke and Leia in the vertical shaft and it had a rather red hue, I liked the contrast with the other pieces so I decided to use it. my feeling though, was that obi wan was away from the others for the entirety of that mission, so I decided to create a contrast between those two threads using these colours. It is very beneficial though, that it has given you this feeling because this is very inspirational. I have been heavily influenced to do this project by this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9j7kLG7VK8 and have been wondering how I would craft my project with a mind to potentially using flashbacks. I could most certainly consider using flashbacks to mustafar somewhere around this scene. It would help a lot, since I had previously considered using sections of scene 38 reimagined, but had to abandon that because the colour depth is not available in their footage for me to grade it properly to match my work.

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#1426498
Topic
AI Upscaling of Deleted Scenes and other content (Released)
Time

bryantmh said:

The final product is not nearly as noticeable of an upgrade as my prequel deleted scenes, but it’s at least a little better for anyone wanting to include some of those scenes in an edit. I haven’t finished the other 2 OT films, but I’ll get around to it eventually and post here when I do.

It is a nice visual improvement and could be used for some projects. unfortunately for me, it doesn’t contain a great deal of colour depth for me to grade it to fit my project.

it still looks good though ^^

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#1426432
Topic
a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
Time

hi all,
I’ve completed the preliminary colour grade.
This is what I will be editing with and so is the general flavour of my edit going forwards. i will still be grading some more after edits, of course.

here is a gallery of over 150 images. https://imgur.com/a/D99vBRH

here is an image of the final scene.

leia