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#1434814
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a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
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ThisIsCreation said:

Id love to see this being finished, i would love a version of the movie that feels like it was actually a fourth movie in a series. id love to hear the alarm of the playing in the background during vader’s entrance.

thank you for saying so. 😃
I don’t intend to abandon this project, I just need to wait until I’m in a better frame of mind.
I’m curious, which specific alarm are you referring to?

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#1434798
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a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
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I have to be honest I’m not feeling a sense of reward working on this like i did with captain marvel.
I don’t know if it’s a case of motivation or inspiration or something else. I think it’s best for me to stop working on this until I feel excited by it.

I’ve edited up until Luke’s first appearance and I’ve removed 5 minutes of footage. I’ve removed what I feel is unnecessary fluff shots such as excess gunfire, running, jawas doing busywork, etc. I’ve cut what I felt was droning and unnecessary exposition that doesn’t really add anything. I’ve done various things with the darth vader scenes, such as reframing shots, tilting the frame, playing with the speed, warping the image.

I’ve rendered these 12 minutes and if anyone is interested in this then I can share it via google drive. it’s too large to go on vimeo and I think it’s too long to qualify as being okay to post in the forums.

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#1434692
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a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
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That sounds really encouraging. 😃
thanks for the extra ideas!

I think it’s important to measure what impact I can have in specific scenes so I want to be careful about how I adjust the framing.
I also find that working with 4K source footage is punishing my PC, I’m using an i5 and motherboard from 2013. my GPU is certainly good but cpu is real bottleneck. so having said that, I think I would get frustrated if I try to do more with attempting to splice footage from Rog1 in there.
I shall come back to it once I’ve done my basic edit…
I’ll do another edit pass at 1080p before I start work on sfx and sound mix.

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#1434679
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a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
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Got some new clips.

first clip is an experiment to deal with those bright flashes. I always hated those bright flashes, they are so harsh and probably not great for epileptics. I looked at the space battle at the start of episode 3 and all the bright flashes in that are followed by smoke from explosions, so that’s what I’m trying.

https://vimeo.com/560133786

second clip is how I’m dealing with Vader’s entrance. I don’t like his pose with hands on hips, it looks kinda camp and really not intimidating. also, I think the close up of his feet among the bodies is more imposing anyway.

https://vimeo.com/560133817

third clip is how I wish to introduce tension and conflict to add to the scariness of Vader. I am closing in on the shots, close up on the faces, on the hands round the neck, etc. also, I zoomed in slightly on the throw and started the camera further right and whipped it to the left in order to hopefully give the throw a feeling of more speed and violence.

https://vimeo.com/560133219

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#1434625
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a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
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4throck said:

triadne said:

hi all,
I’ve completed the preliminary colour grade.

here is an image of the final scene.

Looks yellow and seems to lack highlights. Perhaps the gamma is wrong I don’t know.
Unless that’s intentional you need to calibrate your monitor 😉

thanks, This is an intentional decision to bring some warmth into the scene.
There’s nothing wrong with the original of course, I just personally feel it is a little flat/cold and doesn’t reflect the feeling of safety after having defeated the threat.

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#1434611
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Thanks, yes I did do some adjustment of the lighting afterwards to make that work. The part where he’s stood holding the captain is now quite dark and then the light level raises. it helps with that issue, but I agree with your assessment of the filming styles.

It has been my intention to reframe shots here and there and I can introduce dynamism in other shots throughout the film… but that would be a case of trying to fit a round peg in a square hole, by chiselling away at the hole.

Although this sequence is really cool, I think I do have to accept that it’s not going to work.

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#1434588
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a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
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leftshoe18 said:

I really like using the Rogue One scene as part of the boarding of the Tantive IV. And it works really well! My only concern is that while it works for a small clip of the movie it might end up feeling out of place in the context of the full movie (much like the fan edits that include Sc38 Reimagined).

thank you, I agree that is a real concern so this is why I am super keen to get feedback on this at this stage.
I’ve already cut it to pieces in a bid to help it fit in, but there is a good chance it still won’t fit.
If you think it would be useful, I could render out a longer clip and share it via google drive?

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#1434546
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a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
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Okay, it’s been a moment.
Got caught up working on my video game development.

Got started on this edit now, after ironing out some audio issues.

done a lot of experimenting and trying to see if i can fit in some Rog1 footage.
I’ve gone with this juxtaposition idea, as the rhythm of the Rog1 scene is way different so I’m seeing if it can work this way.
I’d appreciate some feedback on the rhythm and visual of this edit. The audio needs a lot of work but that can come after.
https://vimeo.com/559666229

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#1433846
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Captain Marvel, hoping to make carol a bit more likeable for those who hate her. (COMPLETED)
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vmw40 said:

It catches my attention, would you pass the link to me through PM, please 😃

sure thing, please send me a pm request 😃

spottacus said:

This is a huge improvement to a poor movie written by committee. The changes were great. Only tiny bit of criticism is when the line ‘human male’ gets truncated, it’s a bit of a sharp cutoff. Otherwise great work!

thank you! ^^

yes, I struggled with that edit a little. I found it very difficult to make it seamless, so I wanted to leave it as it was in the original but a lot of my test viewers really wanted that bit amended. I totally understand why. I tend to vie for seamless cuts though so it bothered me.
I mean, I think I did pretty well with it, as I used a pitch corrector to change his inflection as much as I could. I guess if it’s really noticeable and if I need to work at it some more, I could take that clip into audacity and bash it about a bit more. ( i used resolve’s standard pitch correction)

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#1426671
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Thanks MisterBenja1977 ^_^

Artan42 said:

I managed to get some of the Yavin stuff to load and I like the more tropical feel it gives off. The light skies and dark forest also look like there’s an imminent storm which is a good metaphor.

The lighting in the Laars’ garage may be a bit too dark. I always thought it was too dark compared to AotC in ANH anyway and I never even noticed the skyhopper because of the lighting, but it looks a little creepy with 3P0 as a main light source. (the nighttime scenes, not the daylight ones where he’s playing with the toy).

Most of the Death Star is a matte grey or a blue tinted grey but the scenes of Obi and Vader getting ready for their duel have a redish tint. Is that a Musterfar callback?

Thanks, I’m glad you liked. this is really rich and rewarding feedback and makes me feel some additional motivation 😃

I hadn’t intended to make it look stormy, I was mainly trying to enhance the richness of the trees and the ambience they would give off. That is a wonderful side effect though 😄

unfortunately in the garage at night, that shot with 3po is very dark in the original footage, even with the enhanced bit depth of the UHD source. I played around with that shot a fair bit to try and bring it up, but it always ended up looking muddy. I might be able to fix it in post in some way though. depending on how I edit it, I could introduce some lights and maybe use some painting techniques to introduce detail. it depends though… I mean it is one shot and may not be important enough.
I mean, take a look, this is how much detail is in that shot in the dark sections! not much to work with there ^_^ garage

I like your observation of these shots on the death star. initially, I was looking at Ralph Mcquarrie’s concept art and there were a few colour schemes for the death star. the most common was quite bright with blue tints. there was one piece though that showed Luke and Leia in the vertical shaft and it had a rather red hue, I liked the contrast with the other pieces so I decided to use it. my feeling though, was that obi wan was away from the others for the entirety of that mission, so I decided to create a contrast between those two threads using these colours. It is very beneficial though, that it has given you this feeling because this is very inspirational. I have been heavily influenced to do this project by this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9j7kLG7VK8 and have been wondering how I would craft my project with a mind to potentially using flashbacks. I could most certainly consider using flashbacks to mustafar somewhere around this scene. It would help a lot, since I had previously considered using sections of scene 38 reimagined, but had to abandon that because the colour depth is not available in their footage for me to grade it properly to match my work.

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#1426498
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AI Upscaling of Deleted Scenes and other content (Released)
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bryantmh said:

The final product is not nearly as noticeable of an upgrade as my prequel deleted scenes, but it’s at least a little better for anyone wanting to include some of those scenes in an edit. I haven’t finished the other 2 OT films, but I’ll get around to it eventually and post here when I do.

It is a nice visual improvement and could be used for some projects. unfortunately for me, it doesn’t contain a great deal of colour depth for me to grade it to fit my project.

it still looks good though ^^

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#1426432
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a new hope, adding visual effects, emotion and more character (a WIP)
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hi all,
I’ve completed the preliminary colour grade.
This is what I will be editing with and so is the general flavour of my edit going forwards. i will still be grading some more after edits, of course.

here is a gallery of over 150 images. https://imgur.com/a/D99vBRH

here is an image of the final scene.

leia

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#1424270
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Artan42 said:

Maybe brighten up those recessed lights slightly and make them more blue than white. You’ll still have the darkened foreground but it might be easier to see into the room.

Thanks for the idea 😃
I’ve been very careful not to blow up the lights too bright throughout what I’ve done so far. I despise flat lights XD
In this scene too, I feel it would introduce too much contrast, where my goal was to keep the contrast at what I feel is a comfortable level. I have been thinking on this though and I realised that the only parts of this scene I have shown are those parts where vader’s power has caused the lights to dim. here is a screenshot of the very start of this scene. I hope this allays any concerns about the grade for this scene.
conference

EddieDean said:

I think a lot of the technical changes you plan for here sound really sensible.

Intending for this to be helpful feedback rather than criticism, however, personally I have a couple of issues with the colour grade which you might want to look into. Firstly, to me, your grading looks like it’s putting a brown/grey filter over everything, which I think is detrimental. Secondly, I think the filter is particularly affecting your human fleshtones, which I think look quite pallid, giving the characters pale skin and pinkness around the eyes.

As I say - not intending to criticise your work at all, merely offering that up in case it helps you tweak to achieve your desired effect.

There’s nothing wrong with criticism, it helps us all learn and grow. 😃
Thanks for your view on this. I have to say first off that there’s most certainly a lot more work gone into this and I’m sure your intention was not to downplay that at all, but I feel I need to show the HDR source I am working from.
luke

from the HDR source, I apply a LUT that feels right to me, then I grad from there based purely on my memories of a Ralph McQuarrie artbook I used to own and also based on my own artistic choices and knowledge of how light works in real life.
luke

I’m not discounting your observation, in fact I have shared your concern at times. It’s a fine line to walk though. at occasions during this process, i put the theatrical release on and have a look and i also put on the special edition and have a look. I feel like the theatrical looks better and the special edition looks garish and flat in places. This could just be a matter of taste.

yes, in some places it will look somewhat brown, but usually this is down to ambient light. a desert is brown so ambient light will be brown. good colour balance of a photograph would require the other colours to be muted, to create a gentle aesthetic.
Up to this point I’ve shown a desert planet and a dark space station with cold lighting. I’m looking forward to getting to yavin as I will be dealing with a very different environment and some different colours.
I hope you understand my process and I’d love to hear any further thoughts you have based on this.

Dat_SW_Guy said:

Building on what EddieDean said, I suggest you should calibrate your monitor to a pretty good and somewhat accurate color-space if you are planning on color grading or color-matching shots. I feel like certain scenes make characters look really different, in the case of C-3PO, he looks more bronze than his gold colour. I’m simply giving constructive advice and hope for the best in what you will achieve for.

Thanks. yes calibration is important. I’ve gone to great lengths to calibrate my two screens. in actuality the TV has slightly lighter dark tones and a bit more saturation in the orange hues. to most people looking at a test card, the differences are imperceptible. I haven’t seen anyone mention the mask edge that is visible in that admirals hair while he is choking, as it’s not visible on my monitor but is visible on my TV it’s annoying, but when I look at calibration images, I literally can’t see the difference. It’s something I just have to live with.

About C3PO… he is gold and shiny and I don’t like it. I deliberately tone down the shiny yellow areas because damn it all, by my decree he will be dull. 😆
Lucas made the decision part way through production that the droids will be the main characters. I reject that notion, so I will attac C3PO and his bling. Sorry, this the way of the heathen ^^

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#1424172
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TestingOutTheTest said:

Do you plan on doing the same for TESB and RotJ?

uhm… I’m going to say no, strictly on the basis that; if I were to say yes, or to entertain the idea at all, I am liable to start to feel very overwhelmed. That’s not to say I never will… Just need to focus on what’s in front of me right now.

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#1424164
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Chase Adams said:

Woah, I actually felt physical discomfort seeing Motti’s face go red as he was choked! In other words, what you were going for with that effect worked. 😄

that’s so encouraging, thanks!!

NeverarGreat said:

Something I’ve learned from color correction is that even if you’re changing the time of day to be much darker, it’s important to retain close to full brightness in some parts of the image, such as with artificial lights or simply keeping the highlights at the same level while lowering the overall gamma. Without these considerations, scenes can quickly go to looking like there’s a mistake with the monitor rather than an intentional effect, something I’ve done many times. I see some of this creeping into the Lars dinner shots and the Imperial conference, for example. Finding some places to keep a strong light source would really sell these shots.

hmm… ok well this is hard to hear… because doing custom lighting is not easy!!! ok after a few failed attempts at simulating an indoor light shining on the cups etc. i came up with this idea. I think it works rather well! thank you for the tip!! any ideas for what to do with the conference room? to be frank, I want it all darkened due to Vader’s oppressive power.
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