towne32

You’ve touched on some good points, Williarob.

Despite working on a color correction type project, I’m not terribly skilled at the process, though I’ve learned a lot along the way. I can absolutely relate to staring at the same thing for so long and getting lost in it, coming up with something I see as perfect. And then looking at it the next day and it is quite clearly terrible. I’m making large enough shifts towards colors that, generally, were present at another stage along other people’s color correction process. So I can bring some of that back out when I’m lucky.

But working from the blu-rays (and not simply to remove the magenta and fix the contrast, but get it looking properly like other sources), requires patience that I am quite impressed by.

And I, too, am probably less picky about color than many people here. While “A New Hope” looks quite awful, in its 2004 master, for many other films my eyes/brain adjust to them quite rapidly even if they are less than ideal. If we didn’t all do that to some degree, I doubt we would ever find a single film to be watchable. 😃 And I agree that there are cases where I either don’t see the difference as substantial, or don’t care. And then there are cases where it seems huge and one version looks very wrong.

And there is definitely always going to be a need for judgement calls, because complete accuracy is unattainable. But I think that striving for it anyway, as people in this thread have been, gets things on as close to the correct track as possible. Mike Verta will definitely have made some judgement calls based on what he thinks looks right, and he has said as much. Though no one can achieve perfection, I do not think that they need to with how good things are looking. If Disney ever does anywhere near as good a job as Dre, Neverar, or (presumably) Mike, I’ll be quite happily surprised with them.

Thanks! Messaged.

Shouldn’t the soundtrack be grey on a technicolor? Not an expert, just repeating what I’ve heard.

Are there any other samples?

HansiG said:

be like

Did I accidentally friend a teenager on facebook or something?

^ Post of the month nominee.

RU.08 said:

towne32 said:

That group would be so much better off if they ditched negative1.

How do you know that? Just because he wasn’t the best spokesperson doesn’t mean he wasn’t a good contributing team member. From everything that Williarob said he was a good member of the group. None of us really know, unless we were a part of TN1, whether any particular member of the group was a thorn so to speak or not.

Fair enough. It was a reactionary response and speculative. Whether or not he is a good member of the group, I don’t know. He is an abysmal ‘ambassador’/public relations person. Regardless of what happened with Mike involving a Tech print, he was a crappy collaborator by refusing to share resources after having been gifted some himself. Though he must have been generous to have shared scans with Harmy.

The fact that he is their leader and seemingly unable to interact properly with other human beings is why I suggested they ditch him. But obviously, his contributions must outweigh the negatives (no pun etc).

lol.

Wow, those corrections do look really good. The elevator walls look a bit brighter/whiter than I usually think of them, but that might just be due to the fact that the perimeter of the frame looks washed out in many of the cells.

Darth Lucas said:

Again, I’m willing to take a look as always.

Yep, I have you marked down as well. 😃 Was just hoping to get a few more before starting a group PM. But I can always do separate PMs with anyone else who joins in later.

Thanks!

ilovejarjar said:

towne32 said:

ilovejarjar said:

Are we seeing the first Despecialized version not to be released by Harmy?

Nope! Marvins and Laserschwert have also done localizations using Harmy’s lossless encodes. And >Laserschwert’s ESB had some 35mm upgrades, so he was allowed to call it ESB 2.1 I believe. 😃

Thanks for clearing that up. I’m looking forward to your colour-corrected version from Harmy’s lossless master.

Thanks. Still looking for people to check the test render for errors.

ilovejarjar said:

Are we seeing the first Despecialized version not to be released by Harmy?

Nope! Marvins and Laserschwert have also done localizations using Harmy’s lossless encodes. And Laserschwert’s ESB had some 35mm upgrades, so he was allowed to call it ESB 2.1 I believe. 😃

Yes, the MKV has chapters. I just dragged my SW 2.5 into tsmuxer and it shows the correct chapters:

00:00:00.000
00:00:21.187
00:01:54.615
00:04:53.334
00:07:28.826
00:08:55.216

etc

I see an option for doing chapters every 5 minutes, but it is unclicked.

pittrek said:

Oh come on. You started a new account to post 4 times the same image? The last time I checked image-only posts were allowed only in off topic.Also the projects exist, why shouldn’t we be able to discuss them even if you don’t want to do any updates?

That group would be so much better off if they ditched negative1.

SilverWook said:

It’s not for certain the off air recording of the Italian cut simply was started after Buck.

Not sure what the origin of that recording was, but it’s also possible that someone chopped it off later, not knowing that it was related to the THX feature. Or if the TV station made a similar decision.

Darth Lucas said:

Would it be do-able to try and roto dooku into the Jedi council throughout the film? You would have to find some point where we see dooku sitting down with his whole body visible and idk if there is any point in the films where we see that. If there is though, that would be I think a good enough way to make him not just seem to appear out of thin air.

Maybe in the deleted scene from II? It’s very dark, though, and I imagine it would be terribly difficult to get him into the bright council room.

Well they’re synchronized with the NTSC GOUT.

I know you’re saying you’re doing it because you can, but is there a reason for not using Harmy’s chapters for your BD?

MalàStrana said:

edit: don’t forget to use the 2011 version that corrects the weird “Emperor’s slug” effect.

That’s a good point.

Not sure what else to tell you about the image quality for those scenes, if you don’t see it. But, it sucks, and shouldn’t have been that way for a professional release. 😃

I noticed the first time I looked at the BD and assumed that the original negatives for those scenes had to have been lost, so they went to something downstream. Well, that’s apparently not the case if a theatrical 35mm print looks much better.

That doesn’t make sense. The project is available in two cases.

What do you mean you can’t respond? Do you mean that you don’t want to respond? Do you mean that the team account is banned? You have a functioning account right here (or are you saying it will be banned for being a duplicate account?), Williarob has a functioning account, and negative1 has a functioning account.

I really want to like the team, and Williarob is a good guy. I just don’t understand why everything negative1 (the individual who did not leave the group and is the group leader) does has to be for the sake of ‘pushing buttons’ and being confrontational.

I think you’ve summed it up well. The public is extremely bad at keeping things seeded, as there is no incentive on public trackers. On top of that, the 97SE is a niche preference compared to the Blu-ray or Despecialized. On top of that, the 97SE is not available in HD, or even an official DVD.

Can’t say I understand the process when it comes to the final corrections, but it looks pretty nice to me if a little high contrast.

Then again, I don’t think I’m quite as picky about this shot as most of you. 😃

6ercoupe said:

Hello there,
I want to watch the Despecialized Movies on my TV with my BluRay Player.
How can I burn the MKV on a playable BluRay Disc? Wihich programs should I use?

Well, in general you can convert these MKVs that contain 264 video streams for blu-ray using TSMuxer. In this case (Despecialized 2.6), there is a BD format release that’s ready to burn. But I would recommend waiting until the next update before burning.

Thanks very much, Harmy!

That site is interesting. Why do only the Jedi cells seem to have red fade? I though the 70mm prints of the first two were on fading stocks.

Are the other scans just heavily modified to remove the red fade, but they didn’t do so with Jedi? The color in some of the SW scans looks like it’s in good shape.

stretch009 said:

Is there any progress on V2.7?

Here’s the deal:

I’ve got the latest test render done. I’ll give it a spot check tonight and then start uploading it somewhere. Also, I’m thinking about maybe 2.61 or 2.65 instead of 2.7? Should be Harmy’s call, though.

I would like to have people who have been following the thread give it a check for some final feedback. The previous (2.5, still) release had a good amount of error checking on the final render from other eyes, which 2.6 could have probably used more of. So, I want to make sure it’s right this time because I don’t want to do it again! 😃

While I’ll welcome any and all feedback, I’ll specifically be looking for anything involving actual errors. Encoding problems, something where it seems like a setting gets switched off, etc. I’ll be going through, in the meantime, checking every cut to make sure it’s a real shot junction in the film (and colors aren’t changing mid-shot). That’s another thing to keep an eye on, but I do those passes regularly so there isn’t much worry. Still, there are hundreds of splices.

So if anyone is willing to look at the preview, please leave a post and let me know. I’ll start a group PM with the link and we can discuss what we see there. As I said, all feedback is welcome, but if it ends up being bogged down with minor ‘color wishlists’, I might try to steer it towards actual issues/errors. If there’s something you feel very strongly about, color wise, that hasn’t been said, it’s fine but no promises. Mostly, mention anything that I might have made worse than 2.6. 😃

If there are a lot of changes we come up with, I can do another test render. Otherwise, I’ll encode the final render once I have Harmy’s files, mux it, etc. I’ll let it sit with you guys until enough people have watched it that we think it’s in good enough shape to upload.

Thanks guys.