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#1171832
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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LordZerome1080 said:

You could have all just said something constructive instead of destructive about my scene idea. It’s much easier to be kind than it is to not be kind.

For the most part, people are just commenting about how it’s not at all appropriate for this kind of edit. As for the content, I only skimmed it.

The first question you got was: why? Do you think this adds to the film, aside from putting your stamp on it perhaps?

The second was: how? No one here, on any project that I’m aware of, is filming entire scenes of the original trilogy to this extent, with new voice work of main, existing characters and everything. This is well outside of the technical scope of every ambitious project on the site, and it doesn’t even seem to have a clear reason for being made, from what you’ve said.

But I think the most appropriate place here for that kind of thing is probably indeed the script writing and re-writing area. Maybe people could have been more polite (I didn’t think anything was that bad), but no one in this thread should probably be giving you feedback on the writing itself, anyway. Constructive, destructive, or otherwise.

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#1171566
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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Dek Rollins said:

Yeah he posted in the Army of Darkness versions thread about the same thing JMO filled my fanedit thread with, among the other consistencies.

I love when he makes a new account and immediately demands Jay and Silent Bob related material. I mean, I appreciate some of Kevin Smith’s stuff, but there is exactly one person on the planet begging for a preservation of theatrical color timing of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. 😃

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#1171004
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1997 Special Edition Audio Mixes, GOUT-Synced
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I have included a slightly editorialized version of The Empire Strikes Back’s audio which keeps Luke’s line, "You’re lucky you don’t taste very good,” and removes his scream as he falls through the Cloud City shaft. For many, these are the two elements of the 1997 mix of Empire that are not easily stomached.
This alternate version is labelled as “Custom Version” and the version without these editorial changes is labelled as “’97 Purist Version.” (Purist in the sense that it does not take the liberty of deviating from the 1997 mix in these two instances when nothing visual prompts it.)

Interesting project! What is the status of the “Bring my shuttle” vs. “Alert my Star Destroyer to prepare for my arrival” line in this project? That’s something else that I might expect to vary in a purist vs. custom version, though I suspect few would complain if both versions had “Bring my shuttle”.

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#1169503
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Episode IV: A Ridiculous Hope
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TV’s Frink said:

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1169089

I like the second idea. Or even, as the very first words out of their mouths toward each other (cuts indicated by []):

Darth Vader [] betrayed and murdered your father.

You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father.

Your father [] became Darth Vader. Your father [] betrayed and murdered your father. So what I have told you was true… from a certain point of view.

Edit: Followup (wrong thread) -

Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.

I know, father.

No. I am yo-

I KNOW, I KNOW! [from R2 X-wing scene]

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#1169165
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Assistance with ANH:R -- Any place to find it as 1 file?
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ChiefWamsutta said:

towne32 said:

That’s just because it’s a DVD file (and standard definition).

Just right click the folder with all the files in it (probably a VIDEO_TS folder) and play with VLC. It’ll play as one full length movie.

Is there any way I can save it as one whole movie?

It is one whole movie. Don’t click the individual VOB files, but run the DVD as I said.

What, specifically, do you want to do? Make it into an MKV file? Use the program “Make MKV” for that.

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#1166406
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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oojason said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

Someone asked me something interesting regarding what official releases need to be owned before getting the Despecialized Editions.

Apparently, some countries like Hong Kong and the Philippines had DVD-only versions of the 2011 Special Editions which were the basis for the Despecialized Editions.

She asked me if one is legally allowed to download the Despecialized Editions if she owns the 2011 Special Editions on DVD but not Blu-ray.
And if so, is she allowed to download any version or just the DVD5 version?

And, if she bought the digital releases but only in SD, is she allowed to download any version of the Despecialized Edition or only the DVD5 version?

Please give me answers for my friend who wants to dip into the Despecialized Editions.

Your friend is seemingly mistaken - the blu rays of the Original Trilogy are available in Hong Kong, and other places across Asia. There is also a regional version with Traditional Chinese, Korean, Thai subtitles:-

https://www.play-asia.com/star-wars-the-complete-saga/13/709p2p

https://www.yesasia.com/global/star-wars-the-complete-saga-blu-ray-hong-kong-version/1046170147-0-0-0-en/info.html

and are also available on many ebay / online market type places too - considerably cheaper…

 

A quick look at ‘The Ultimate Introductory Guide’ (Section 1: Introduction) - states…

‘Remember, as with any fan edit, YOU MAY ONLY DOWNLOAD THIS PROJECT IF YOU ARE A LEGAL OWNER OF THE OFFICIAL SOURCE. For Harmy’s DE project, this means YOU MUST OWN AN OFFICIAL HD RELEASE for each respective film (i.e. Star Wars Episodes IV, V, & VI), such as the official Blu-ray Disks or digital purchase.’

I would also chime in with regards to the following:

She asked me if one is legally allowed to download the Despecialized Editions if she owns the 2011 Special Editions on DVD but not Blu-ray.

I don’t know anything about actual copyright law in Hong Kong (aside from the fact that in the West, we tend to perceive it as lax, with pirated material easily accessible, etc). But in any case, our rules here are not meant to be interpreted as something that represents the law in any jurisdiction whatsoever. It’s a self-imposed moral code, that is firmly requested/demanded of people who acquire Despecialized. And a requirement of the forum.

If she is indeed interested in what the law says about it, you should consult a better resource than us.

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#1165467
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THX on 35mm Tech IB preservation - HELP NEEDED
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SilverWook said:

But it helps. 😉 I’ve seen at least one Blu Ray review where the author was totally unaware they were not watching the unaltered 1971 film. And don’t get me started on people who think Jabba was present in the 1977 release of Star Wars…

The most common misconception I see about the Star Wars revisions is that numbering the originals 4 5 and 6 all happened in 1997 (or even post 1999). It’s a rare case of accusing Lucas of even more revisionism than he is guilty of. Of course, the kind of people with that misconception are generally not the type of people who would hold it against him anyway.

But I agree about THX. 1971 vs. 1978 is subtle. It’s not strange for someone to consider the laserdiscs original.

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#1165199
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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pittrek said:

Hey Harmy, any chance you would (could) restore the very first / opening day or whatever we call it version of Star Wars in 720p? The one which has the differently composited 3 optical shots and closing credits? If it’s actually possible, since the only source is probably the laserdiscs

Could you go into more detail about this? I’m mildly startled that I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. 😃

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#1164746
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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Harmy said:

Certainly something to consider - it sucks that we can’t get seamless branching to work properly - I’d love to have one disc where you’d go to the menu and select between the US 1977 Version, US 1981 version or one of the foreign language versions, each with their own crawl, burned in subs and (for some) credits. I’m not sure if we have scans of both but it would be awesome to have both versions of the English credits as well, where one would run with the '77 version and the other with the '81 version.

And then the MKV release would be the US '77 version.

I mean, we can get seamless branching working. Williarob taught me how to do it, and I did have a 2.6 release that worked just fine. His SSE release also works well for most people. We can figure it out.

It’s just that there are going to be a few people with certain hardware or software that end up struggling with it. The main problem with the SSE turned out to be that people could not get it ripped properly to MKV. There were probably a dozen attempts uploaded onto myspleen by various people, for the first couple of months. So there needs to be an official MKV release that settles on a specific branch layout. Afaik, branching MKVs seem to always stutter at branch points, so are not ideal (and again, surely compatibility issues galore).

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#1164370
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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CatBus said:

The ESB 2.0 credits also need serious reworking, those were a reconstruction and have typos. Do we have a clean 35mm source for this?

There are 35mm sources. Whether or not they’be been cleaned sufficiently, yet, I don’t know. Harmy cleaned RoTJ, and I helped clean up the few blemishes that remained.

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#1164232
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Preserving RotS Theatrical Version - Is there any interest?
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Bobson Dugnutt said:

The best version of the theatrical AOTC was Centropy’s version from back in the day. I think it’s only on the Spleen nowadays.
I’d like to see it, but with the invites being shut, I don’t think I will anytime soon.

It’s fine for a reference, but it’s a hideous looking cam recording, of course. There was an svcd as well that seems to be lost to time, but it would just make it a bit less blocky.

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#1164230
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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Swift S. Lawliet said:

Harmy said:

May the 4th might be realistic.

Yeah.
But I personally wish we can have TESB v2.5 before the home video release of The Last Jedi.

Wow. You were lucky enough to get an actual estimated time frame. With a date that’s fairly soon. Still an ungrateful sounding response, even if you didn’t mean for it to be.

This place blows my mind sometimes.

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#1163902
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NJVC Custom Bluray Set of Harmy’s Despecialized Editions now available on Mega
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RogueDarth said:

I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, but on the ANH iso chapters and fast forwarding does not work. I have all 82 parts of version 2.7 for BD50 and the md5 file and I tried decompressing them with unarchiver on Mac and had issues with chapters and fast forwarding where the sound would play but the image would not. I tried decompressing the files on Windows with 7zip to see if I would get the same results and I did. Can someone help me figure out what is going on?

What are you using to play it back?

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#1163789
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Star Wars Despecialized Editions - Custom Bluray Set
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yhwx said:

Let’s try to evaluate a situation that one would be in given how people actually think:

  • Option A: Go the route we think of as morally correct. First, one would have to find a way to download these files. Most will opt for the single-file download, as the multi-part wars are way too persnickety for most people to care for. If you are not so lucky as to be blessed with good Internet connection, then this might take a while. Sure, you could go to the public library, but there’s more hurdles than you think there. Firstly, the Internet there might not be any better; secondly, you have to make time for going there. Not all people can do that, there’s things like work and school and family and various other scheduling conflicts. Now, let’s say that you clear this hurdle. Now you need a Blu-ray burner. If you don’t have one already built-in to your computer (most people don’t), then you must buy one. We’re already at a major stumbling block here. People don’t like money being attached to anything. An app that costs five cents is likely to do much worse than an app that’s free, no matter how little the price difference is or how great the difference in quality. But let’s say that you do buy a Blu-ray burner. Now you have to hope that all the software works for it, and learn the software. Pass all these hurdles, and boom, you have your Star Wars disc.

  • Option B: Go the route we think of as morally irresponsible. Let’s lay out the steps for this one: first, have the means to buy a pre-made disk, buy it, and then enjoy. It’s really as simple as buying toilet paper from Amazon, most of the time.

  • Option C: Do nothing. This option is implicit in almost all choices.

Pressed to make a choice, most people would choose option C — that’s what most people do in situations with stakes like these. If one is inclined to do something, option B requires way less effort, for the same reward, so most people would choose that. Remember, most people don’t have the same moral compass we do about these sorts of things.

Any argument that makes the point of “it’s not REALLY that hard” or “this is how you SHOULD think” is missing the point. People don’t think nobly most of the time. It’s true of all of us. It’s just human nature. While yes, to us here, option A didn’t seem like a lot when we did it, that’s only because we’re here — and people here are different from the general population. What I wrote is how people think of things. If you accept these principles, it’s perfectly logical to see why people take the ‘B’ train.

Yes, but all this only adds up to the sum of people who absolutely need to own it on a disc. I think an enormous amount of people (especially within certain age ranges) are perfectly comfortable with downloading an MKV or even some smaller transcoded version on a public tracker. Hell, even VPNs are now a part of common conversation and not just a topic for nerds/pirates.

Not everyone, obviously, will want to pass up physical media. And I’m aware that this is the thread specifically dedicated to the discs. But when faced with the options of ‘pay for overpriced burned discs’, ‘do nothing’, or ‘download free MKV’, the third option is going to rank significantly in some people’s decisions, even if they might have gone for the discs if they were more convenient.