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LordZerome1080 said:

Fang Zei said:

It was mentioned upthread that Despecialized 3.0 will be “entirely 35mm based.”

Does this mean 3.0 will finally be the “best of both worlds” version? In other words, the unaltered 70-80% of the bd color-corrected, with the 35mm scans used for the stuff that was altered, and none of Harmy’s meticulous recreations nor using the ‘97 re-comp shots in place of the true originals?

I think he said all that and he will only be using one shot of GOUT.

Jedi 2.5 had a piece of a shot from the GOUT, but I don’t know that there is a plan for 3.0 to do that. I would guess not.

Tobar said:

I’ve really enjoyed the last couple of episodes. I’d dare to say that nuWho has finally reached Big Finish’s level of quality.

Looking forward to next Sunday’s. Another historical that looks rather good. And four weeks in a row with non-Chibnall writers (and first time writers for the show) sounds good to me.

ChainsawAsh said:

It’s actually easiest to put it on an external drive and plug it directly into the 4K TV and play it that way. It won’t work on a PS4 (overly restrictive requirements for 4K media, such as it has to be h264, which the 4K releases from TN1 are h265), and I dunno about an Xbox.

On Xbox One you can definitely play it via Kodi. Not sure about the native apps, but I expect not.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:
I still dislike the color palette - or lack thereof. All that orange is driving me crazy. The lack of natural color, especially whites and blues (and actual greens and reds) makes everything look small and scrunched. Hard for me to imagine how multiple people can look at this and not immediately see that the colors are worse than on the 1970s episodes on VHS. There is no discernible reason for this, because most of the other modern-era Who episodes had great, rich color.

I don’t mind the strong color choices at all when depicting something like an alien world. Episodes 3 and 4 were differently colored and more natural (but we’re on OT, which is probably the most touchy site in the world when it comes to color, so I can’t say you’ll like it for sure! 😃 ). The preview for next week was almost all blue and white sets, though! 😉

I still have no idea what the Tardis looks like, but I’m assuming that will become more clear in the next episode. Well, other than that it is almost entirely orange (like the rest of the show).

It’s a strange design that looks like they don’t have enough space to film the whole cast near the console. I wonder if it will be tweaked for next series.

Dek Rollins said:

LordZerome1080 said:

The most I know is that both the DEED and the 4Ks both use a technicolour print.

That’s only for Star Wars.

And also not true for Despecialized (though that may change).

moviefreakedmind said:

Was there gate weave in the 35mm used for SW and ESB? I don’t remember there being any if there was.

He can correct me if I’m wrong, but much of what Harmy used for SW (and I think this is largely true for ESB) was from 35mm sources for lots of composite shots, but not large raw chunks of the film. Sources for the full films became more available and of higher quality as time went on. Harmy did blu-ray/35mm composites for Jedi as well, but he also had shots and scenes that were purely 35mm that time around. So the hybrid nature of that one was more obvious between shots, while the earlier projects had more hybridization ‘seams’ within shots, if that makes sense.

For SW 2.7, the film sources were surely stabilized so some degree by TN1. And I stabilized and otherwise tinkered things to try to get them to fit in with the blu-ray, as needed.

odok76 said:

So 4k83 is here.
Which edition wins the all round, one-copy-only, best ROTJ at the moment?
Harmy 2.5 or 4k83?

Personal preference, really. Despecialized contains virtually zero GOUT. It’s basically all blu-ray and 35mm.

4K83 is extremely clean. I’ve seen commercial blu-rays and TV airings of movies with more scratches or dirt. The image is a little softer, and there are clearly limitations that are inherent to the reel-by-reel grading method. I think once someone does a shot-by-shot version of 4K83 (and as a personal preference, removes the reel change markers), it will be pretty damn hard to beat that. I think some shots look better in 4K83, because they’re purely from the original source. For instance, the early shot of 3PO and R2 at the door.

Two fantastic options.

TV’s Frink said:

Looks like I need to calibrate my babel fish.

Sellout.

You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

ZigZig said:

Williarob said:

Soon… Very soon…

https://vimeo.com/289687216

Holy s…, this is by far the most exciting trailer I ever seen.
It looks gorgeous.

It does look excellent. It might be worth pointing out though, I think, that the trailer probably has shot by shot color grading and the first release will be by reel. So it won’t look identical.

The cleanup and state of the print itself is quite amazing, though.

Warbler said:
It is not too difficult for newcomers to watch “Twice Upon a Time”.

It’s not difficult but the people making it, and we, want it to be a successful show. It’s a fresh start, and I’ve read from a lot of people (including many in this thread) that they’re tuning in and enjoying it for the first time in many years. Others who have never watched the show are asking “what’s a good time to start?” and seem quite relieved to know that the answer is “right this moment”.

Why have them go back and watch an era (which I love, but one which has abysmal ratings and a lot of disdain for it)? And then to know what’s going on in ‘Twice’, they need to go further back. And further, and further. Clean breaks and jumping on points are important, especially when the entire production team has changed. People very easily feel overwhelmed by how much of this show there is, even based on the length of just the new series.

It would be one thing if this resulted in an actual plot hole, but that’s not the case. She was falling and then she fell into a train immediately after regenerating. I think they handled it perfectly. And based on the reviews and feedback of others who either never watched before, or lost interest, it seems to have worked.

Warbler said:

I am forced to admit. She is better than I thought she’d be in the role. Much better. I was wrong and I am sorry.

I do have a couple of minor complaints about the episode. How could she fall from the sky down into a train without breaking every bone of her body and having to regenerate again?

Glad you gave it a shot. People have addressed the other two questions, but this one can be explained by the post-regeneration healing abilities of the Doctor. The 10th Doctor grew a whole hand back. Some broken bones would probably also quickly be dealt with?

I think it was a good move to not pick up directly from the cliffhanger. They really want to start the era fresh, and this way newcomers can absolutely tune in without feeling like they have missed anything at all.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

What I assume was an otherwise cliffhanger ending was totally ruined by the sudden cutaway to some pumped-up insert, followed by a total lack of clarity that the episode was over. By the time I happened to notice that credits were running in the corner, a lot of time had passed and I assumed I had missed something.

Basically, the episode was great, while the presentation of it by BBCA was pretty awful. When you can’t even tell what you are watching at any given moment - the show, or an ad, or a get-together, and you can’t tell if the people on the screen are BBCA guests or if they are extras in the episode… it’s a mess. I hope it’s not like this every episode.

Agreed. Sticking with amazon for the next episode. The commercials are pretty detrimental anyway. Just wanted to watch the first one live due to the simulcast.

TV’s Frink said:

Setzer said:

Can’t a mod lock this thread please?

Or everyone can just, you know, stop posting in it and stop reading it.

I’m enjoying reading it myself.

A dumpster fire of a color grading thread is pretty much Frink candy.

ChainsawAsh said:

Handman said:

In addition to the end credits, we didn’t even get a title sequence!

And one of those four people was Wil Wheaton.

Nobody got a title sequence for the first episode. It was announced a week or two ago that it wouldn’t appear until episode 2.

Indeed. Though BBCA lacked the end credits as well. I later watched the digital version, and the theme (at least over the credits) is quite good. Has a lot in common with the 60s version’s melody (and the full version of it), but with modern heavy drums.

ZigZig said:

Yes, ROTS is the one with the fewest differences.
But AFAIK, there are other changes than this wipe :

• Wookie huts have extra details (moss and rust) on their rooftops (to make them look older)
• at the end, a different wipe and shorter “Noooo!” from Vader
• (some dialogues were changed or added, but this point is probably not relevant on a German version)

I may be wrong but I think that for $200, it’s worth saving it, if only for the color references and the 35mm grain.

Right, but going from the HDTV as a source, the wipe is the only thing that needs to be fixed (using the Blu-ray) as far as I know.

As others have said, though, it’s an interesting novelty.

skywalkerfan101 said:

Damn…it would be easier if there was an ISO file already available.

There’s really no point to hosting simple remuxes of large files when the mkv is the much more widely used format. It will be worth hosting when an iso with menus and special features is completed.

I understand that this release is very slightly more complicated than most, but there are two easy solutions posted so far.

Alternatively, someone in the technical subforum recommended Clown-BD ( https://www.videohelp.com/software/Clown-BD ) to remux to ISO. I’ve never used it and can’t vouch for it, but it worked for the person over there.

Collipso said:

just because they barely mention Lucas? that should be a huge negative!

I think there’s enough material out there about that guy. If he was overlooked in the grand scheme of things, sure. But this is a nice treat away from that stuff.

Handman said:

Do you mean Matt Smith’s first Christmas special?

No, one of the later ones. It might have even been his regeneration show… why that was the Christmas Special, I do not know. Series 5 was definitely the best of his era, but it’s impossible to approach the later seasons (and any of Capaldi’s) without being much more familiar with the show. It’s a lot like the original show in the 80s. And… well, both eras saw a huge drop in viewership.

Ah, fair enough. I agree that Time of the Doctor (while I actually love the episode, unlike most people), is possibly one of the very worst episodes to start on.

That said, I think the beginning of Moffat’s run, as some have suggested, is indeed a great place to start.

It depends on the person you’re recommending the show to and their tastes. Though we are only 13 years out, people are already seeing series one as rather dated. There are some parts of the RTD era that newcomers (perhaps more so for Americans) struggle with. I’ve heard at least a couple people doubt they should keep watching once they get to the ‘farting aliens’. Again, depends on the person. People who like British drama from that time period might enjoy the era more.

Handman said:

I wouldn’t recommend starting with Matt Smith or Capaldi. Moffat tried really hard to appeal to long-time fans that most episodes are completely incomprehensible to anyone unfamiliar with the show. The whole extended family was over and we ended up watching that year’s Christmas Special… no one knew what the hell was going on.

I would say starting with the revived show at the beginning, with “Rose”, is your best bet. However, I strongly recommend checking out the original show at some point.

Do you mean Matt Smith’s first Christmas special? What outside knowledge was required for that one? The companions have their own backstory, but they’re basically written out of most of the episode (and all you need to know is that they’re on a honeymoon, which you’re told). It’s actually the episode that got some of my family watching the show, and I think of it as one of the most standalone ones there is.

And there would be even less chance of confusion coming off of season 5. I’m struggling to think about how season 5, itself, could be incomprehensible to a newcomer. You miss River’s first story, but she’s reintroduced. Other than that, not much attention is paid to RTD’s storylines.

Bobson Dugnutt said:
(Pog form is acceptable)

This means I can download all the Alf fanedits I’ve had my eye on.

DrDre said:
something like this:

Can’t wait for your shot-by-shot of this. Hopefully for the DNR version as well as the initial release.

SilverWook said:

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copyrightclaims@godaddy.com is their official address for copyright complaints, but I’m not sure how useful it is if you’re not the copyright holder’s lawyer.

Hopefully there’s something usable here: https://supportcenter.godaddy.com/AbuseReport

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