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DISCLAIMER: Most of you are far more knowledgeable than me. That's why this post will ask a lot of questions and not give a lot of answers. Hooray internet-enabled collaboration!

There's been a lot of talk over in the Fan Edit section about how to recut and reshape the PT into less-terrible movies. As folks like RedLetterMedia have explained, the chief problems in the PT are the story, the directing and the dialogue.

I have heard, however, some talk about how nearly everything in the PT is CG. Perhaps some Fan Edits (*cough* Revisted *cough*) might someday work on replacing the CG with physical elements when possible, such as having men in Clone Trooper suits, an idea Lucas bizarrely eschewed.

But what about all those spaceships? Is replacing any of those justified? What would be required to do that? Obviously quality models would be needed, and that is a large field that a lot of hobbyists on the internet are already taking care of, whether or not they have Fan Edits in mind. The ability to make quality physical models of spaceships exists.

But getting footage of those models, as far as I can tell, would require a motion control camera system. Digital compositing doesn't seem to be the problem, as it really is just blue-screened footage and there are people that know how to handle that - but getting that footage is an issue.

What would it take to make a motion control camera? Any and all knowledge, speculation, etc is welcome. You can even talk about prices and how they're too high or within reach or whatever, because this is a brainstorming thread and not an announcement that I have any intention of purchasing these things. I just thought the discussion was a good idea.

Unless it's all a cover story, so they can continue making the preservation without anyone bothering them.

No, I kid.

Sort of.

There hasn't been an effort to actually compile this stuff into a coherent list, has there?

Fascinating. I wonder what Firefox is doing so well.

Bingowings said:

Sorry to be a pain but just a reminder that images bigger than the tram lines of the thread tend to shunt the forum out of whack.

Out of curiosity, what browser are you using? I've never seen it throw anything out of whack - It just hides half the image and I have to right-click to do things to see the whole thing.

O_O Wow

Although I have to admit, ESB is not the film I was expecting. Not that I'm complaining!

doubleofive said:

 

It looks like its actually a rough cut of the HD version, as Ady has seemed to shy away from some of those changes as of late.

 

Oh I hope not. :(

As much as I agree with the idea that menus are annoying and unnecessary, I think the fancy menus on ANHR, which match the style of the official DVD menus so well, do wonders in terms of legitimizing the Revisited Edits in the eyes of most people (i.e. those folks who might not be so comfortable with fan edits, etc).

I'm thinking the third one is best, 4th 2nd.

TV's Frink said:

Which part? 

His whole line around 0:09 on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBRTHoItyD0

I think he's saying "Don't be a coward" but it comes out more like "Donbeubbacoward".

What was QG saying? I can't understand him. The audio is too muddled/jumpy.

20th Century Mark said:

Are these DVDs available yet?

I'd just like to second this question.

Do you think some pitch bending or something would help Ric's lines flow better? As much as I love his ridiculous stabilizer-centric dialogue, the jumps in audio are too harsh and really distract from the humor.

TML said:

WhatsMyName said:

 First of all, Darth Maul was the greatest Sith out of all the movies.

 

Yeah! Don't you love when he, umm.... What did he do again?

He did do some fancy flips and stuff. That was kinda cool.

It's all been downhill since The Adventures of Lando Calrissian anyway...

Sadly Frink, it only took me two tries to remember his name: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ki_Adi_Mundi

Right, but that doesn't mean all puppet Yodas are bad. It just means that, in their attempts to make a slightly younger looking Yoda, they did an awful job. I think that replacing him with a CG Yoda for the Blu-rays is a great idea.

But, just like the Clones, that doesn't mean it wouldn't be appropriate to sometimes replace him with a good looking puppet. I'm just not sure it's feasible.

To the folks who want to see the "No, I am your father" surprise properly preserved:

What do you do with Vader referring to Obi-wan as his former master, knowing the feeling, that tremor in the force, and their conversation during the duel on the Death Star? I assume that you can do away with the post-lava scenes in ROTS, but even excising those doesn't solve the problem.

I suspect this requires a lot of time and money and professionals, however...

Replacing CG Yoda with a real puppet?

Jaitea said:

Try to resist......

Well that's my point. I shouldn't have to struggle to focus on the intended focus of the scene.

Jaitea, as much as I like the concept of those, they're so visually busy once in motion that my eyes are strongly drawn to them, rather than to the focus of the scenes.

I think, for this to make sense and look right, you're going to have to have the thing rotate towards the fleet as it passes behind Palpatine.

Also, it just sort of looks too crisp?

The music when Vader is dying is incredible. I can't remember that scene feeling so emotional til now - but it ought to. The rest of the ending still feels a little rushed, but not too bad.

Oh, also, I never realized until now just how perfect the line "Nothing can stop that now" concerning Vader's death is, in light of his reasons for choosing the Sith in ROTS.

I think the transition back to the present happens far too late. It's a flashback, which means its narrative shouldn't have anything other than R2 and maybe 3P0. The stuff with Vader and Leia really feels out of place in that context.

The new shot of the escape pod leaving might need work, but I love the concept of it!

The Purist seems to be available on The Pirate Bay