timdiggerm

Ice said:

timdiggerm said:

I do think, however, the music has been all over the place from bad (the rock drums) to forgettable (the rest)

Oh, I LOVED the rock drums!

I’m glad it worked for someone. I think that’s the only moment in the show so far that my wife and I thought was stupid. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I do think, however, the music has been all over the place from bad (the rock drums) to forgettable (the rest)

MalaStrana#2 said:

timdiggerm said:

• The perspective of Corporate Security & ISB who, in their own ways, just want to do their jobs

I mean…

That’s the point! Or at least one of them. You can be evil and do bad things not look or feel like you are.

MalaStrana#2 said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

MalaStrana#2 said:

Still following it: I get what this series is trying to do, I see the efforts, just too bad it’s soooooooooo slow with no emotion (and a bit of a very lackluster casting, especially Diego Luna, totally uninteresting). I thought it was going full “Bourne” but it’s now closer to “Michael Clayton”… which is kinda off topic. It seems the series will only be 24 episodes spanned over 2 seasons: they better hurry to start telling a story (and not just close ups of sad people’s faces), there isn’t much time left already.

We are watching two different shows it seems. 🤔

Not really: I just don’t find anything great about it, while you seem to enjoy a lot public servants reading files and people hiking in the highlands.

How about the latest episode?

Wait, I have more to say

Through these characters and their story, they have so far shown us

• The difficulties & stresses of living a double life
• The perspective of Corporate Security & ISB who, in their own ways, just want to do their jobs
• The difference between Cassian & the other early Rebels, and the first steps in his conversion

MalaStrana#2 said:

Still following it: I get what this series is trying to do, I see the efforts, just too bad it’s soooooooooo slow with no emotion (and a bit of a very lackluster casting, especially Diego Luna, totally uninteresting). I thought it was going full “Bourne” but it’s now closer to “Michael Clayton”… which is kinda off topic. It seems the series will only be 24 episodes spanned over 2 seasons: they better hurry to start telling a story (and not just close ups of sad people’s faces), there isn’t much time left already.

What?

The story so far:

• Kassa was one of a band of children on a world with seemingly no living adults, abandoned after mining failure or something. A spacecraft crashed on the planet, and when scavengers came to raid the crash site, Kassa was adopted and taken of world by a nice lady in the scavenging crew. He was then given the identity of Cassian Andor, but his sister was left behind.
• Many years later, Cassian (and his mom) were living in a Corporate Sector. He borrows his friend’s boss’s ship to fly to nearby planet in the sector looking for his sister who he heard was working there as a prostitute… but she’s not there anymore. He’s not supposed to be there either, and in the course of escaping he kills two Corporate Security Officers.
• The boss of the Corporate Security office tasked with investigating the murder is going to be away for a few days while making his annual report to the Empire, and he tells his deputy to just let the case go, they’ll never solve it, it doesn’t matter, better to keep things quiet. The Deputy is idealistic and foolish, and decides to investigate, eventually hunting Cassian down.
• Meanwhile, Cassian has a stolen Imperial surveillance part worth a lot of money, and he’d like to sell it through a friend who has connections to the Black Market, specifically to the Rebellion. His friend makes the call, and Luthen comes to Cassian’s planet to make the purchase.
• Everything goes horribly wrong when the Corporate Security team sent to find and arrest Cassian arrives at the same time that Luthen is meeting Cassian to purchase the Imperial surveillance part. There is a lot of shooting and, thanks to some help from the disgruntled and rebellious populace of the city, Luthen & Cassian make their escape in Luthen’s ship. But they leave the Imperial surveillance part behind.
• A young woman rising through the ranks of the ISB takes interest in the case, because she is suspicious that all the various missing parts and other incidents across the galaxy are actually part of a coordinated Rebellion. She is passionate about her career and protecting the Empire.
• The Empire takes control of the Corporate Sector in response to how badly things went with Cassian’s attempted arrest and its apparent connection to something more sinister. They fire the Deputy, who returns home to Coruscant where his overbearing mother tries to find him a new job. The Deputy wants revenge on Cassian for ruining his life.
• Luthen recruits Cassian to join a Rebellion covert job in which a few people, posing as shepherds, will steal a large amount of money from the payroll of an Imperial base. Cassian is hired as a mercenary and joins only a few days before the heist, while the rest of the team have been putting months or even years into this job, and are all there due to passionate commitment to the cause of the Rebellion. Cassian is an outsider, and this causes problems within the group as they make their final preparations for the heist.
• Luthen returns to Coruscant, where he is an art & antiques dealer. He uses this cover to meet with Senator Mon Mothma, whose home life is not great, at least partly because her husband has very different values than hers. Both Luthen and Mon Mothma are worried about the heist.

It is, as people have said, great, and the suggestion that you should watch the first 3 “episodes” as one movie is correct.

I did not like the music at the end of episode 2; I thought it was very cheesy.

But pretty much everything else was great, and you’ve mostly all said it all.

On a very unimportant note, was this the first time “caf” made the jump to the new Canon?

Just wanted to give an update. Over the past few months, I’ve updated files here and there as new storyboards have appeared online. Unfortunately, I did not keep a list of the updates, so I’ll just give you a small taste here:

I continue to collect boards from the rest of the movie. If I ever get the time, I’ll work on that. Well, and the chronological editing analysis…

That, of course, assumes that physical media will still be sold instead of just D+

fmalover said:

I remember reading reading in the official Star Wars database, before the Disney takeover, that Mace and Qui-Gon didn’t see eye to eye.

That makes sense, as Liam Neeson is 2 inches taller than Samuel L Jackson

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We must always remember that Jedi, despite their importance in the power-structure of Coruscant, are very rare in the galaxy.

What on earth was going on with the spaceship movements? That was awful

EvantheKidDS said:

For the end credits, I have a suggestion.

On Disney+, after the main credits finish, there’s this sequence of additional credits (for the voices of the international dubs) without music, and with simple text. Why not take that concept and utilize that for the people that helped you out with Revisited?

(The reason I asked is, I wanted to see if it was possible to keep the original theatrical pacing of the end credits, without putting in additional music or repeated segments, while at the same time still being able to put the names of the supporters and additional help)

I think this is a very good idea

I wouldn’t be surprised if The Path is one of the many components that become a part of the Rebellion, once that gets formed, but that’s years away at this point.

They’re clearly saving Reva’s backstory for a later confrontation with Kenobi.

The kid playing Leia did a great job in this episode.

The change of heart about helping Ben was a little too quick, but Wade’s death was not about the audience caring about Wade as a character (we don’t, and that’s fine), it was about his death’s effect on the characters, some of whom are now seeing just how much their personal involvement in the Path can cost, others feeling unworthy of having had someone give up their life to save them.

Vader’s confrontation with Reva, at least in the closeups, was definitely Hayden in the suit. Something about the body language was very PT-Ani.

MalaStrana#2 said:

timdiggerm said:

• With 3 episodes left, it’s very unlikely this will be the last time Vader & Ben faceoff. The last time they meet in this show, Ben will have regained his old confidence & skill (probably due to a visit from Qui-Gon), and he will be the master in this duel.

Sounds probable yeah and given what we have seen so far in reflection of Yoda’s ROTS assignment it could add up.

I’d be more skeptical of the idea except that they’ve repeatedly had Ben pray to QG (Qui-Gon, natch), so they’re either building up to Neeson or… some random Jedi is going to help him reconnect with the Force despite his inability to connect with QG, because he just needs to realize that the power to connect with the Force is already inside him and he doesn’t need his old mentor to solve his problems for him. That’s also possible.

I’ve finally caught up to the latest episode, so here are my thoughts:

• With 3 episodes left, it’s very unlikely this will be the last time Vader & Ben faceoff. The last time they meet in this show, Ben will have regained his old confidence & skill (probably due to a visit from Qui-Gon), and he will be the master in this duel.
• Third Sister is angry most all of the time, but there’s depth there (since she’s obviously one of the Jedi kids from the opening)
• The other Inquisitors are a little over the top, but it works for me
• The moleman was obviously great
• The kid playing Leia is fine. She acts like a precocious child, which is what she ought to be. Not always perfect, but often good
• Vader’s entrance was a little over the top. Okay, he’s scary, we get it. On the other hand, I loved the castle. Cheesy? Yes, but just the right amount.
• That one shot of the bowels of the Probe Droid Launching Facility was weird and bad
• I hope we don’t actually see Vos, but it was a nice Easter Egg

Even though the PT CG has plenty of issues, it’s not the reason the prequels are bad movies.

timdiggerm said:

alexp120 said:

timdiggerm said:

alexp120 said:

Or provide a wave file of a M & E (Music and Effects) audio track, so that members can prepare foreign language audio-mixes to your edits.

It could at least be a lossless compressed format (FLAC) to save on online storage size

But this is impossible, as it would first require that Ady has an M&E track of the movie which…no one does outside Lucasfilm?

Since the lengths of Ady’s SW fan-edits are different from the final-theatrical lengths of the films, custom audio-mixes would have been created to conform with the lengths of Ady edits. There are audio-files of the unique sound-effects from the SW franchise that have been collected and stored by the fans and other fans have used these audio files to make custom edits of their favorite SW films. This was the case for these Ady SW fan-edits.

So preparing a Music and Effects audio file–with the English dialogue removed–from these custom audio mixes is possible. It’s just a matter of Ady wanting to do one and share them.

Obviously Ady’s going to have to be the final word on this, but I do not think that’s the case. I’m pretty sure he was using some version of the theatrical audio (Harry Hen’s 5.1 remaster?) for the base, and then making edits along the way. A full creation of an M&E track for even one film is probably impossible; I doubt that all sound effects used at all points in the film have been made available elsewhere, to say nothing of foley work, unreleased bits of music, etc.

I thought about this more, and it is a great idea for a fan project which you (alexp120) should attempt.

alexp120 said:

timdiggerm said:

alexp120 said:

Or provide a wave file of a M & E (Music and Effects) audio track, so that members can prepare foreign language audio-mixes to your edits.

It could at least be a lossless compressed format (FLAC) to save on online storage size

But this is impossible, as it would first require that Ady has an M&E track of the movie which…no one does outside Lucasfilm?

Since the lengths of Ady’s SW fan-edits are different from the final-theatrical lengths of the films, custom audio-mixes would have been created to conform with the lengths of Ady edits. There are audio-files of the unique sound-effects from the SW franchise that have been collected and stored by the fans and other fans have used these audio files to make custom edits of their favorite SW films. This was the case for these Ady SW fan-edits.

So preparing a Music and Effects audio file–with the English dialogue removed–from these custom audio mixes is possible. It’s just a matter of Ady wanting to do one and share them.

Obviously Ady’s going to have to be the final word on this, but I do not think that’s the case. I’m pretty sure he was using some version of the theatrical audio (Harry Hen’s 5.1 remaster?) for the base, and then making edits along the way. A full creation of an M&E track for even one film is probably impossible; I doubt that all sound effects used at all points in the film have been made available elsewhere, to say nothing of foley work, unreleased bits of music, etc.

alexp120 said:

Or provide a wave file of a M & E (Music and Effects) audio track, so that members can prepare foreign language audio-mixes to your edits.

It could at least be a lossless compressed format (FLAC) to save on online storage size

But this is impossible, as it would first require that Ady has an M&E track of the movie which…no one does outside Lucasfilm?

Okay, I’ve only watched the first episode, but I thought Ingram was pretty good 🤷🏻‍♂️

It would have been nice to save the lightning for the end of ROTJ, in as much as it makes Palpatine’s attack on Luke all the more crazy and horrific if you’ve never seen it used before. It would have been far better, IMHO, if Palpatine had never been involved in any combat at all until ROTJ.

Bridger12 said:

One thing that is very frustrating about some of George’s changes to the movies is how they are made in isolation, without concern for continuity between shots. For example, I get why he wanted Jabba’s palace door to look bigger, so that it’s more grand-looking, but he didn’t account for the interior shots where R2 and 3PO enter the palace. For the uninitiated, it would look like either the door suddenly got smaller, or the characters suddenly got bigger. Thankfully, Adywan is keeping the original shot.

Of course in this case it’s JJ’s change, not George’s

I mean, the TFA-bunk precedent in ESB:R does suggest it