theprequelsrule

From the link on the Star Wars Legacy Restoration site.

TV's Frink said:

Thanks to miker71 I just learned something nice that I can say about Lucas...

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-coming-to-Blu-Ray-UPDATE-August-30-2011-No-NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO/post/534031/#TopicPost534031

He landed quite a babe!

She has nice melons.

The game was great. The books were terrible.

This is going to be the prequels all over again. It is far, far better to leave this stuff to people's imaginations.

MJPollard said:

theprequelsrule said:

Monolithium said:

thedaner said:

I'm waiting until Bill Hunt reviews it and then I'm quite sure I STILL won't want the set.

Bill Hunt will praise this release just like he did for the 2004 one.

Wow. How does this guy have any credibility? I noticed the colour problems immediately (the Tantive's laser blasts were so dull).

He doesn't, at least not in my opinion. I used to think he did, but evidence like this has convinced me otherwise (and so has the fact that he's become a total Blu-ray fanboy, relegating the still-relevant and still-vibrant DVD market to the back of the proverbial bus). I only read The Digital Bits now for news about new disc releases, and even then I have to wade through a bunch of Blu-ray garbage.

Ah, it feels good to have another blu-ray hater on the forums.

Bothan's Pies said:

Well, for me, this goes deeper than the visible physical manifestation of all of this stuff - and includes the general sentiment.

For example, From Peecher's book...

Luke has come back to the Death Star from Endor to force a confrontation with his father. This is the big scene. Richard Marquand describes a George Lucas insight into this scene: "There was a feeling I had that I would like the fight to be bigger than the fight in Empire. And then George said that it doesn't have to be bigger, because basically it can't be.
George is very blunt. He said: 'It's just a couple of guys banging sticks against each other. Don't worry about that. It is bigger because of what is going on in their heads. That is what makes it bigger.' That was nice, because then I saw exactly what he meant and I think up to that point I had missed a trick."

 

Regardless of what you think of ROTJ as a movie, it is obvious Lucas still grasped the value of 'less is more' even then, wheres now, it would seem, does not trust the audience enough to 'fill the blanks' and be informed by what is happening inside characters' heads - so he adds an ugly big "Noooooooo!" into this key scene.

 

But really, how could we ever be in a position to second-guess Lucas' "original vision" after this?

I mean, the Ewok designs by Rodis-Jamero, Johnston and McQuarrie that were approved by Lucas (and in my opinion, the most aestheitcally pleasing designs, despite some of the other designs by those same artists having irisis and pupils) looked like the versions that ended up in the film. Surely the old Fabulouso stamp can't have been  brandished accidentally?

*sigh* Time erodes talent.

Monolithium said:

thedaner said:

I'm waiting until Bill Hunt reviews it and then I'm quite sure I STILL won't want the set.

Bill Hunt will praise this release just like he did for the 2004 one.  This is taken from the second page of his DVD review:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/starwarstrilogy02.html

Because the transfers were done from the original negatives, you're going to see detail in these films that you've never seen before. You'll notice this right from the opening shot of A New Hope, when the Star Destroyer chases its quarry over the surface of Tatooine. Just look at the subtle swirl of cloud patterns on the planet below - astonishing. Best of all, not a lick of added edge enhancement was required to bring out this detail. What else is good? The color palette here is more lush and accurate than ever before. You're going to be blown away by everything from subtle flesh tones to the vibrant gold plating on C-3PO's chest to the bright orange flightsuits of the Rebel pilots. Contrast is also spectacular, with deep detailed blacks and clear, accurate whites. All three films in this set are just going to absolutely blow you away, and the bigger your screen the better it gets. The Star Wars Trilogy on DVD is the best excuse you're ever going to have to go out and buy yourself a good anamorphic widescreen display. Until true high-definition arrives, it just doesn't get better than this.

Wow. How does this guy have any credibility? I noticed the colour problems immediately (the Tantive's laser blasts were so dull).

RedFive said:

A friend of mind was just arraigned in court and charged with murder, voluntary manslaughter and felonious assault.  I can't believe it...

That's horrible RedFive. You have my condolences.

Bingowings said:

Jaitea said:

timdiggerm said:

That's not even the ceiling, that's some closer, overhanging thing. A walkway or something, perhaps? Note how the metal pole on the left is cut off, because that thing is in front of it. It's just that its corner and the corner of the room happen to line up.

Looks ok to me

J

 

Am I the only person who thinks this bleached out version of the throne room looks more Star Warsy than the way it was presented in the actual film?

 

No. A thousand times no.

TV's Frink said:

theprequelsrule said:

Davnes007 said:

No Thanks.

Gaga or Perry?

The chick in your Avatar is super-hot! Has this been mentioned before?

Do the last over 9,000 times count? :p

Lol. I've been Frinked.

TV's Frink said:

There is a video game thread, you know.

Should this go there then? I wanted this to be more focused rather than just a general thread.

Davnes007 said:

No Thanks.

Gaga or Perry?

The chick in your Avatar is super-hot! Has this been mentioned before?

Mass Effect 1.

1. More cohesive and "epic" (overused, I know) story
2. More mature tone
3. Better antagonist
4. Better pacing
5. Overheating weapons instead of limited ammo

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Great line in one of the responses to an Amazon review:

"Lucas is to his movies like Michael Jackson was to his face."

I like that one!

And I guess I need to start toning down some of my rants if this site is getting attention. Who thought I'd ever go respectable?

doubleKO said:

I liked the scene in Godzilla 1998 where Jean Reno pretends to be an American soldier.

Hah! Me too. Man, I haven't thought of that scene since...1998.

xhonzi said:

Bingowings said:

The rot sets in in ROTJ.

The original shooting script and the novel expands Ben's reason for fibbing to Luke to underline just how important he is and how recklessly futile his rescue attempt of friends was.

By trimming that Ben comes across as manipulative as Palpatine.

Yoda is keen on Luke facing his fears (he never asks Luke to kill his father just face and defeat Vader) but Ben comes across as being obsessed with Luke killing Vader (which is a bit of tall order after using a myth about a pre-existing murderer to get Luke to start his quest in the first place).

Ultimately it's Yoda's approach of NOT DEPENDING ON WEAPONS (I'm looking at you Lucas) that wins the day.

+1

The PT Jedi are a bloody weird bunch.

When I saw ANH and ESB I never for a moment imagined a child procuring, Ninja, Vatican State, UN peace keeping 'force', that turned a blind eye to slavery enforced familial disconnects while obsessing about celibacy.

It turned an epic battle between good and evil into the clash of two slightly different creepy cults and the resulting fallout.

+1

With poopy jokes.  You know... for kids. 

 Fixed.

+2 (for the most part)

skyjedi2005 said:

They could have done King Conan with Milius but the studio would not back it.

And honestly with Arnold's age, they would have to have played that up in the movie or recast, or do what they have done reboot.

I would like a version faithful to REH manuscripts, not the butchered edited version by L. Sprague de Camp.

I think John Carter should be animated.

 

I would have liked to see an older Schwarzenegger portraying an older Conan. I think that would have been interesting.

An animated Conan would be the way to go (think Ninja Scroll). Forget a movie though, I want adaptions faithful to the actual stories.

TV's Frink said:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/empire-strikes-back-too-good/

*Yawns* Another guy splooging all over Empire.

Most arguments for the superiority of Empire (as a Star Wars film), by internet bozos,  tend to come down to this:

Empire has to be the best Star Wars film, cause it's the darkest, and like, when shit is dark it is serious and shit, you know? And when the shit is serious it is better than shit that isn't ya' know?

Now, there are articulate and plausible arguments that can be made in Empire's favour of course. Many of them have been made on the OT.com forums. I was firmly in the "Empire is the best" camp for over a decade - back when I really took Star Wars seriously. I still love the OOT as much as ever, but no longer take it seriously. Maybe I love it more, now that I don't take it seriously.

skyjedi2005 said:

Doug Chiang left and did not design episode II and III.

Ryan Church did.

I am really worried about John Carter since he is the designer, if those Hollywood morons did not wait so long they could have had Frazetta, who is now deceased.

 

 

The John Carter film is going to be terrible. Like Conan, it is something that needs an uncompromising vision or it does not work.

Fine: George helped get Kagemusha and Mishima made.

I have the GOUT, but I will not buy another copy for back-up. I will not even buy a copy of a properly released OOT (if it ever happens). Lucasfilm will get no more money from me. Ever. If my version of the GOUT is lost, stolen, or stops working it will be sayonara to Star Wars for me.

It will probably be for the best.

SpenceEdit said:

I always liked Phantom Menace and thought George did a great job directing it. To me it has always been far superior to the other prequels. While it's not perfect, it does have a certain sense of fun about it all, and some of the performances are quite good, especially Neeson and McGregor. Darth Maul is great, all of the action is great, Jar Jar and Watto are pretty amazing technical achievements, and it was just awesome to see some new Star Wars. The other prequels feel like they had been adjusted to fit what the fans wanted or what was going to be popular, but TPM has a certain pureness to it that feels imaginative in the way the OT does. It also felt to me like a director that hadn't worked in years, having fun with his new toys and firing on all cylinders.

I disagree with the first and last sentences, but the rest of this is a good observation. He definitely sold out to the fans in making AOTC and ROTS darker.

And what the fuck was Jango/Boba Fett doing in the prequels?!! Totally pandering to the fanboys.

OzoneSherrif said:

I enjoyed the changes made to THX 1138. not sure if i prefer them but they aren't straight up retarded.

Some were good (the masturbation machine - where can I get one?). Others were not so good (cgi monkeys).

1. This site has moderators? Who knew?
2. Congrats Anchorhead. "It will be a day long remembered."

miker71 said:

I remember reading the novelisation of TPM before seeing it at the cinema and thinking the story played out pretty well. So it's a flawed execution. Poor direction. Did Lucas even leave the video village?

I also read the novelizations of the prequels and you are correct; they are significantly better than the films. Contrast this to the novelizations of the OT - where the writers couldn't really capture the fun of the films. I thought Jedi had the best novelization from an emotional point of view. I love the last lines: The Empire was dead. Long live the Alliance.

lordsidi said:

I've usually been a staunch supporter of G.Lucas and most of his additions/changes to the OT,plus his work with the PT. I even would get mad at some of the comments thrown against him by fans.....until this morning. Yes,I had NO news of the added "NO"s" by Vader. Lucas once said that these movies,at least the OT could basically be "silent movies". You could follow the story simply by the visual impact. So why in the name of hell did he have to f**k with one of my most iconic scenes in the OT! One that still put's a chill in me whenever I see it,,...to me it was PERFECT. A man struggling with an inner demon...the dark side of the force. Remain the dark lord or save my son. The simple turning of his head towards his dying son and his Sith Master....and finally ,without a word...he chooses. It was really one of my favorite scenes ever. I am very upset...that a movie that I've know since the first time in the theater has been tainted,,even ruined,by this SOB...I was excited for this bluray set,but  now...a die hard fan since 77,has been so disgusted by one simple word..."NO". 

Let the hate flow through you!