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#892647
Topic
SPOILERS Rewrite The Force Awakens
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 Continued.... 

 fight their way out and go to New Alderaan It is a mountain and wilderness world. Windswept peaks, Forests of alien trees, a capitol city for refugees pavilions wooden structures frontier town medieval feel, next to the ancient and mystical large temple/castle complex that is queen Leia's residence. Leia is in royal/priestess robes. Prepare for Order battle fleet. Rally in super destroyer bay Fleet Feurer Red gives pep speech. Poe and bb get a fighter. Shield over city/castle. Order comes in and lands troops threaten total destruction. Finn with ground troops han rey and chewie fight high then land to face ren and troopers. Rey and Ren lightsabre duel. Shields drop and destroyers low over city prepares to devastate. Some order admirals gloat about destruction. Alliance fleet and ackbar suddenly drops out of hyperspace comes low over city, Order admiral says "It's a trap!", Battle turns around ships in ROTS style broadsides Gloating order admirals are blown out of sky, FFRed tells Snoke he can still win and destroy Alliance fleet Snoke says they have other concerns get Ren and return. 
 Artoo awakes they get full map. In court chamber of temple/castle four times larger than ANH chamber. enormous doors open into huge courtyard with more people. Finn and Poe have medals Han and chewie ackbar behind queen Leia in more splendid royal priestess robes. Rey approaches wearing Diana warrior/huntress demigoddess costume and Leia hands her the lightsabre and touches her hand as Rey takes it flashes of more memories come. Rey turns and raises sabre high and ignites it as great crowd cheers.
 Indeterminate time later we see MF drop out of hyperspace with Rey, 3PO, and Artoo in cockpit. Go to planet with large cratered moon in low orbit. Robed figure gazing at huge blue-gray moon and towering clouds. Rey offers lightsabre.
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#892434
Topic
SPOILERS Rewrite The Force Awakens
Time
 ...Continued

 Rey uses mind trick to get loose. Kylo in holoconference Snoke says if Kylo loosened a mindblock, this girl will become more dangerous as she regains memories and droid may only have part of map rest might be on New Alderaan and main battle fleet should go there get full map and devastate the world as final test of Kylo. Rey, Finn Poe and BB get pinned down. Suddenly Alliance ships drop in and attack. Finn anxiously tries to convince them he's one of them over the coms Hear familiar voice say "This is Alliance forces" "Uh, I'm one of you Finn, uh...hi" "What? WHO IS THIS?!" Poe gives him code signal and Finn says he can open port by ships but can't get there. Han says open gates they are coming. Finn does and a troop lander comes in, Han on wide ramp as it drops with long coat and blaster drawn Chewie and Alliance commandos right behind. They charge out blasting Han and Chewie make it to the group. Han says they came to help Poe and picked up MF transponder. looks at MF. They need to close doors on troopers and Finn tells Han he was sanitation "What?!" Finn said he opened ports to expel trash. Han orders commandos back to lander, and Han, Chewie, Rey, Finn, Poe and BB8 run for the Falcon. As Falcon leaves Han gets glimpse of Kylo. They fight their way out with Finn and Rey on Turrets and BB8 fixing things. They head for New ALderaan before the battle fleet can get there.
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#892425
Topic
SPOILERS Rewrite The Force Awakens
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   ...continued     "I don't know what this 'Logistics' is, but I want some of it."

  MF goes over surface then up and pursued by TIES. FINN notices ship is transmitting and Rey says it's old  transponder she can't shut off. Jump to hyperspace then they go to fix problems. Rey says MF is a ship shot down during the battle of Jakku. Finn says "The Alliance made this a warship?" Rey says it was back when they were still called The Rebellion. Shut off transponder too late, super destroyer warps in and slow reveal of the enormity of it as tracter pulls it into a side bay. Hide in smuggling compartments. Get out. Poe's ship there. Finn, Rey, and BB8 go running around the innards of the ship. Finn uses knowledge of systems to get around and get some spare armor. Rey is captured and taken for interrogation. Finn goes to get Poe. Finn says noble reasons, Poe says you need a pilot. Finn says have to get Rey, Poe says he has a mission. As restraints removed Poe says you got away, then you are dragged back, then you release me, just as your friend is captured. Do you ever feel you are moving and making no forward progress? Finn says that's been every moment of his life. Poe gets sack and told it's the only way to move around ship. Kylo accuses Rey of having seen the map and demands that she imagines it in her mind, gets into Rey's head and triggers flashes of memory that confuses both of them. Rey shakes as he keeps pressing into her head, then suddenly they see flashes of Kylo's memories, both confused, then Rey takes a deep breath and concentrates on Kylo's mind then tells him his darkest secrets. Confused and upset Kylo leaves. Finn and Poe make way toward Rey in armor.
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#892407
Topic
SPOILERS Rewrite The Force Awakens
Time
  Can't resist.
  I'll try to stay as close as possible to the original storyline and characterizations.
  THE FORCE AWAKENS: RECONSIDERED
 
  CIVIL WAR! THE GALAXY HAS FALLEN INTO CHAOS OVER THE DECADES SINCE THE EMPIRE FELL AT THE BATTLE OF ENDOR. WHILE CRIMINAL CARTELS AND SEPERATIST MOVEMENTS PULL APART, THE ALLIANCE OF FREE WORLDS CLASHES WITH THE EVIL FIRST ORDER OF THE IMPERIAL TYRANNY TO REESTABLISH GALACTIC GOVERNMENT. THE ORDER, CONTROLLED BY SUPREME LEADER SNOKE WITH THE KINGHTS OF REN, HAS ORDERED IT'S BATTLEFLEET TO CEASE FROM RAVAGING THE MOST HELPLESS WORLDS OF THE ALLIANCE TO PURSUE A MAP TO THE LOCATION OF THE LEGENDARY JEDI KNIGHT, LUKE SKYWALKER, WHO IS RUMORED TO HAVE FOUND THE SECRET TO ULTIMATE POWER THROUGH THE MYSTICAL ENERGY FIELD OF THE FORCE.
LEIA I, QUEEN OF THE ALLIANCE WORLD NEW ALDARAAN AND THE SISTER OF JEDI SKYWALKER, HAS DISPATCHED THE BEST PILOT OF THE ALLIANCE TO OBTAIN THE MAP BEFORE THE ORDER ARRIVES. THE ALLIANCE PILOT RACES TO ESCAPE THE WORLD JAKKU AND RETURN WITH THE INFORMATION THAT MIGHT HELP SAVE THE DESPERATE ALLIANCE... 

 We see a star destroyer and an X fighter coming up from a desert planet pursued by 15-20 TIEs swarming like bees. The super star destroyer and TIEs are painted with red and black political and ideological insignia( Uniform and trooper armor are too) We see TIE pilots and xpilot but not clearly. We see Kylo in a TIE all over the xwing and it's damaged. In x cockpit we see display with upload bars then a display by BB with a download bars. The xwing swoops down over the surface of Jakku and BB8 drops out the bottom and the x speeds back up into orbit pursued by the TIEs. The x is damaged more and falls into tractor beam of super destroyer. Maybe distance shot of Rey watching the battle with electro binoculars.

  We see BB8 make way through desert have encounters with creatures. We see Rey scavenging. We see Poe interrogated Kylo accuses Poe of seeing the map and demands he imagines it in his mind so Kylo can read thoughts and a certain trooper with a little bit different insignia on armor looking and told to take and search Poe's jacket. BB meets Rey and they travel back to settlement dangers in the desert. Troopers ordered to surface to search for droid. Rey sells parts gets food goes to see friend at ship restoration shop we see a few ships but not MF. little alien friend at shop recognizes BB but signals droid to stay quiet. Friend sends Rey and droid away as 3 searching troopers approach. Troopers decide to kill friend and others because they know too much and aren't helping. Odd trooper argues and is arrested and to be sent back for interrogation. Odd trooper runs and firing goes into desert and takes off armor and pulls Poe's jacket out of backpack. Rey and Finn meet back in settlement Finn says noble reasons and Rey says he needs her help. Chased by troopers. They make way back to friend's ship shop friend tells them to take a ship and hands Rey a lightsaber and says found it in a salvaged ship. Troopers chasing and not the garbage ship then the garbage ship. Rey says helped restore MF and has flown it. Finn asks you've flown this? Rey tentative little "Yeeah" Finn worried repeating "Yeeeeaaaahhh?!?" 
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#892125
Topic
The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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Wow! Impressive! I went to see it early afternoon, weekday, second week. There was a line outside the IMAX auditorium.
Overall, quite a ride. It took me by surprise. I was expecting a first act of the trilogy like ANH, and it had nearly as much humor and energy while being much darker and more ominous than the “second act” ESB.
Casting and characterization were Excellent. BB-8 quickly won me over. I thought Gleeson was on mark. If you are doing Hitler at Nuremberg, there’s gotta be some eyes bugging and facial contortions
Loved the greater emphasis on practical sets, locations, and characters. terrific FX. Great score…
Well worth the ticket price.

I always have quibbles with even the best films, and I did feel that this movie had a few considerable flaws.

My quibbles would include the sense that the score was a little too much of a good thing. I'm old school OT. I'm accustomed to more space for the score to build itself up or quiet itself into ambient sounds and to showcase the major themes. I come from the "Great, do something else useful and you might get to live a few more seconds" school of dialogue in a crisis. CGI characters still don't work as well as costumes in SW, imo, and I don't believe they ever will.

What I consider flaws are the entire subplots that seem a bit extraneous, forced, and unSTARWARSy.
The Starkiller Base subplot seems to exist entirely by itself. In ANH, the DeathStar plans were the macguffin, the imp officers and Vader dropped all sorts of expo in conference, it was the most awesome reveal in cinema history, and facing it or being in it or over it was the ultimate objective for all of the characters in the movie. My guess is that they wanted to center the film on other themes and then decided that wasn't enough, so they created the base.
 I have great sympathy for anyone who must rationalize and amortize...FOUR...BILLION...DOLLARS....  I'm sure that if it had grossed 1.5 billion they would have been declared terrible failures. If it made 1 billion it probably would have destroyed their careers. Abrams and his Bad Robot crew are THE WORLD MASTERS of office watercooler buzz. They live and die at the watercooler. Breaking Bad was still a big thing while they were outlining the script. There is a huge appetite among vast swaths of the pop entertainment viewers for material that plumbs the greatest depths of human depravity. They felt a need to poke at some hot buttons and intense themes to generate the "WOW!! OOH MAN!!! You'll never believe what they're doing with STAR WARS!!" sort of chatter. Likewise with the GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER: IINNNNNNNNNNN SSSSSSPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCE!!! subplot. I'm in AWE of the risks they were willing to take with the franchise, and it appears to have paid-off. They have served Master Rodentium VERY well. They got em into the theater and have them, and me, wondering how they are going to deal with the deep dark hole they have dug and cast themselves into. It came at the cost of my considerable potential for greater enjoyment. Not quite the escapist pop entertainment romp I was hoping for.

 Anyway, It did provide some good laughs, amazing sequences, and a reunion with some childhood friends.

 Impressive. Most Impressive.
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#793558
Topic
Open-Eyed Thinking (Exploring Uncomfortable Topics)
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       The willful departure from that one optimum path intended for us by nature and it's Creator is a symptom of a diseased mind, period.

      The angry rejection of reasonable efforts to alert one to straying off, and the critical importance of turning back, is the manifestation of a nastily infantile mind. 

       People engage in evil thinking all the time. Sometimes willful, sometimes unavoidable, sometimes even legitimate.

       I'd say I'm as straight as they come, but if anyone mentions terms related to homosexuality I have the greatest trouble preventing myself from conjuring the imagery. Sometimes I do it for the purpose of examining the issue.

      All people have "dark thoughts". Morbid curiosity, confusion, accosting, a desire to understand the enemy...take everyone, to some extent, into those recesses of imagination.  

     The trick is to earnestly avoid dwelling on any of that and to furiously reject the attitude of "Pfff, it's really not all that bad."  

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#791254
Topic
Ask the member of the Latin Rite of the Roman Catholic Church AKA Interrogate the Catholic ;)
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thejediknighthusezni said:

twister111 said:

You know what nevermind. Regardless of whether or not I'm right on this certain issue it really doesn't matter. I was temporarily puffed up with pride and arrogance and I apologize and repent of my behaviour. RicOlie_2 you don't need to make any reply to that post whatsoever.

Have a nice day everyone. http://i.imgur.com/UK732.gif Take care in the coming days ahead.

http://i.imgur.com/MXA8TmO.gif

       Can't tell if sincere, or passive-aggressive. ;/

     NVM. It pays to read ahead in the forum.

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#791250
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Ask the member of the Latin Rite of the Roman Catholic Church AKA Interrogate the Catholic ;)
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twister111 said:

You know what nevermind. Regardless of whether or not I'm right on this certain issue it really doesn't matter. I was temporarily puffed up with pride and arrogance and I apologize and repent of my behaviour. RicOlie_2 you don't need to make any reply to that post whatsoever.

Have a nice day everyone. http://i.imgur.com/UK732.gif Take care in the coming days ahead.

http://i.imgur.com/MXA8TmO.gif

   double post

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#791249
Topic
Ask the member of the Latin Rite of the Roman Catholic Church AKA Interrogate the Catholic ;)
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twister111 said:

You know what nevermind. Regardless of whether or not I'm right on this certain issue it really doesn't matter. I was temporarily puffed up with pride and arrogance and I apologize and repent of my behaviour. RicOlie_2 you don't need to make any reply to that post whatsoever.

Have a nice day everyone. http://i.imgur.com/UK732.gif Take care in the coming days ahead.

http://i.imgur.com/MXA8TmO.gif

       Can't tell if sincere, or passive-aggressive. ;/

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#791132
Topic
Ask the member of the Latin Rite of the Roman Catholic Church AKA Interrogate the Catholic ;)
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twister111 said:

Warbler said:


"it's a biblical reason to exclude women from representing Jesus feel free to thanks."

maybe should edit this so it makes sense?

??? ()_o It's a continuation of the sentence from above the quote. "If you'd like to explain how it's a biblical reason to exclude women from representing Jesus feel free to thanks." The "it" being the quote. Pretty straightforward.... Maybe using the up arrow "^" or the word "that's" might make it more clear but seems a bit useless to edit it now that I've explained it.


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        Biblical reason?

        How 'bout the bit about the chief officers of the congregation being good husbands to one wife?

        Of course, this only refers to certain offices, and only where there is a capable man available. There are good and sufficient reasons for limiting things so.

        Other positions are open to capable women.

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#786502
Topic
Last movie seen
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        AMERICAN ULTRA

        Wow! Kristen Stewart can ACT?!? I didn't see that coming. 

       The rest of the cast was spot-on as well. Some good black comedy and fiery action sequences. Quirky.

       I enjoyed MI:RN and TMFU, but this one is my favorite of the August spy/action films.

       I wonder if this will do as well as it deserves to do. It's heading into the slow season and lots of competition for the same demographic.

       Of course, it would help to understand some background. This movie plays to those silly conspiracy theory nutjobs. One theory goes like this:

      In the beginning, there was Satan. From time to time Beelzebub squats and brings forth another of his greatest creations. Being The Dark Lord, these turds are sentient practitioners of the most horrifying evil. They have borne different names over thousands of years, but today they are most prominently represented by The Society of Jesus.

     These blobs of toxic excreme...I mean...these Jesuits, in turn, squat down and sh*t out their various tools, today most prominently represented by the CIA. Being fecal tools, they add the most treasonous, totalitarian, suicidal and democidal STUPIDITY to the mix of heinous evil.

     Anyway, as some paranoid kooks will tell you, immediately after the formation of this pile of traitorous, cruel, Judas goat cra...I mean...these faithful and wonderful citizen-protectors, they went to work co-opting the highest levels of the entire psycho-babble industry. Their special concern was neuron-melting acids and extreme manipulation of individuals and masses. This was done in the name of opposing the Soviets, and there was a bit of rivalry, but the primary objective was to prepare for the new Jesuit world order.

     These fevered froot-loops imagine that the CIA and co-operating agencies in the US military and nations such as Germany and Britain were responsible for the development of nearly all the psycho-pharmaceutical substances being mass tested on the broad populations and witting or unwitting subjects. These chemicals are coupled with psy-op conditioning through media and control of the environment. All of this in order gain total control by melting away the soul and destroying every decent value. They want to master the human domain.

      SPOILERS  SPOILERS  SPOILERS

     Some hyperventilater in a cabin or a basement will probably start to wonder.

     This movie was released under difficult circumstances. Is it even intended for a mass audience so much as encouragement for their tools? Are we that close to The Big Glitch and The Great Culling?

     The protaganist is rescued by the good CIA goons. He's saved from the bad goon who has decided that these human wrecks are too much of a problem. It turns out, nubile young chicks are extremely attracted to programmed, insane, mass killers. He gets an exciting life of slaughtering Chinese agents who are encroaching in the Jesuit Phillipines, before his recall to help "deal with" The Great Culling.

    We all know these conspiracy freaks have lost track. Of course the darlings running these ops are the most honorable and understanding of souls. They love and trust their drugged-out, twisted killers willing to betray, rape and murder everyone in their own communities. It's the only path to true love and happily ever after...

...Just ask Immortan Joe

  END SPOILERS     END SPOILERS     END SPOILERS

   

     Anyhoo, the great take-away from all this is KRISTEN STEWART CAN ACT!!     

     

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#786171
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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AntcuFaalb said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

Does it make any sense to say that someone created the principle that 2+2 must equal 4 or that all circles must be round?

Yes, because we have no reason to believe that such rules hold beyond our plane of existence.

      But even if 2+2 and circles are LIMITED to our plane and perhaps any similar planes, that very LIMITATION must then require that these principles apply to all planes.

     If all US states are located in the Northern hemisphere at the present time, then that fact must apply to everyone in the Southern hemisphere even if there is no possibility, at present, of a US state being located there.

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#786167
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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                A great impediment is finding words to describe.

             I'm not sure that God claims omnipotence with respect to a multiverse or the essential Logic that causes it to take various forms. The God of the bible claims near omnipotence over It's particular creation.

           There must be a set of Principles that transcends our Creator.

           Does it make any sense to say that someone created the Principle that 2+2 must equal 4 or that all circles must be round?

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#785893
Topic
The Philosophy Thread - Where Serious Questions "May" Be Discussed
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       Being the creator of a compass doesn't automatically confer the status of sole compass orientater. The North Magnetic Pole has something to do with it.

       A potter determines the form of the jar. Once formed, the jar has an intrinsic, objective nature of it's own. It has a certain capacity, resilience, portability.... The jar's nature and utility is dependent upon the Logic that informs the physical constants of the multiverse and this is independent of the opinions of potter.

      The potter might, if sufficiently reasonable and informed, be able to judge whether the jar is adequate to it's task and worthy of respect or casting into a rubbish heap.

      Things become more complicated with sentient creatures. There is a necessity to impose justice for immorality and reward for morality. Needless cruelty must be deterred, unjust suffering must be given meaning, and transcendent principle must be upheld. To do otherwise is unjust and immoral, if these terms have any meaning. 

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#782622
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The Philosophy Thread - Where Serious Questions "May" Be Discussed
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      I would define "Morality" as the wish to maximize pleasantness and minimize unpleasantness in advanced sensing beings that are not causing unnecessary suffering, while avoiding unnecessary suffering.

      Moral absolutes in human affairs are determined by human nature. There is just one natural "Way" for humanity to arrange it's environment and interactions to achieve maximum pleasantness.

     If God is necessary to generating and sustaining that Way, The Deity is necessary to Morality.

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#782530
Topic
Jurassic World Reconsidered
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     I know that it earned 1.5 billion reported. This is just how I roll.

       characters.

     We have Corp Chick and Dude.

     Up the ante over JP. Instead of two or three, small groups of 4 or five. A group of investors, control room staff, asset control mercenaries, bots and families, dinos.... A few seconds is spent at the beginning introducing the personality types of at least a couple from each group.

     Chick is busy and stuff but doesn't have sister fuss at her just friendly call, no stuff outside the park, kids aren't too bothered she isn't going, no heavy family drama. intro with boss flying helicopter.

     Denofrio in charge of control room and betraying to military contracters.

     Each group has member who has Han Solo moment and some groups have those who are unexpectedly ratty.

     Asset Control like intro of squad in Aliens. Each has personality. Commander is silent kick-ass with Chinese/S.Korean/Japanese name.

     Two nephews and three nieces. eldest is 12-13. Only child. He's a good looking kid with a masculine haircut, but he has problems. His pet tarantula died, his mom and dad are dating the same bar bouncer, bad friends are trying to get him into disco music.... He's quietly bothered and was never really in charge of anything. His cousin is 12 year old girl, little self involved. Their cousin is stand-in for JG of JP. She is worried about toothy creatures and knows about JP. At some point she lamentingly points out that she has been right about everything. Boy 10 is brother of self involved chick loves dinos and also has a masculine haircut. Girl 9 is sister of worried girl and brave and energetic. They stay together as group.

     The rogue bot reverts to military program. Looks like ride attendant but has personality of a combat Marine Sargent. Runs riot through park has encounter with each group. Causes almost as much havoc as it is a help. Jumps on a raptor and does bot on dino ride.

     edit: The heavy weapons vault is damaged and blocked. Most of the crisis near sunset or at night.

      That's as far as I'll go with this reconsideration. Anyone else have thoughts?

     

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#780256
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Terminator films
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       Yeah, okay, he's Aussie. Of course, that just reinforces my point. It also never would have ocurred to me that NuSC wasn't murkan if she wasn't in Game of Thrones.

       I'm feeling quite tempted to go back and rewatch TGen. This time to imagine that Paramount has finally completed their time-machine and gone back to the wrap party for T1. They kidnap MB and LH and bring them to 2013.

      It would be an interesting exercise for evaluating the importance of casting for greatest likeness.

      All else would be equal except they probably would have to throw in the obligatory desperate love scene (even the most unsentimental guys would miss it) and they cast someone who looks like both of them for John. Same lines, same story, same direction....

      How would that have effected the perception of the movie?

     But then I think "Ticket prices..."

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#779909
Topic
Terminator films
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The Aluminum Falcon said:

To be perfectly honest, I quite liked Terminator Genisys! It's, in my opinion, the best thing to happen to the franchise since T2.

I wholeheartedly agree with Cameron and Arnold that this is the "official" third movie in the franchise, being superior to Salvation and the utterly abysmal Terminator 3. Visually, it hearkens back to James Cameron's films. The opening war scene set near Skynet's time displacement machine is a great spectacle. It's fulfilling to witness the 2029 victory that has been talked about since the first movie. You can see why Cameron considered using it as the opening of T2. Thankfully, unlike Terminator 3, there is no hamfisted inclusion of the American flag, which entirely belittles the fact that this is the struggle of a united race to survive. Independence Day, this is not. Jason Clarke did a good job as the weary, messianic leader of the Human Resistance, much better than Christian "Batman voice" Bale or Nick "paintball gun" Stahl. I appreciated that they resisted the urge to throw in a wife. Having a partner humanizes John Connor, and, for reasons I'll expand on later, the character should not be humanized. 

Once Reese travels back in time, he finds, as I assume most of you know, the 1984 world of the first Terminator with marked differences. The editing and effects are markedly improved from the promotional material. I was worried by a lot of amateurish cuts in the TV spots, but none of those are replicated in the actual movie. Similarly, I was impressed by how the CGI young Arnold looked. Though superior to the instances in Tron Legacy and Terminator Salvation, it's not perfect, but I daresay we're only about a decade away from photorealistic replication of actors. Overall, it was exciting to watch this new Terminator flick, especially since it didn't adhere to the tried formula without adding anything new (Terminator 3, I'm looking at you.). Except for the well-known SPOILER that John Connor had been converted to a Terminator, I didn't know what was coming next most of the time, and, for fear of ruining anyone experiencing it for the first time, I think I'll stop divulging plot details here.

Alan Taylor is admittedly no James Cameron when it comes to action and suspense, but his directing worked for the most part. He, without a doubt, trumps McG, whose movie contained baffling lapses in logic (open heart surgery in a post-apocalyptic wasteland?). The rather large budget shows, making it feel more epic and like an open world, unlike the cheap looking Terminator 3. Until the end, the film continues to feel like the spiritual successor to the Terminator and T2, visually continuing with a color Cameron-like palette, staying away from dwelling in warm colors (Terminator 3) and desaturated ones (Salvation.)

I think the main reason that Terminator Genisys works much better than Terminator 3 or Salvation is that it fits the criteria for a good sequel, expanding on the themes of the last installment and growing the characters to create an emotionally satisfying follow-up. Despite being a fantastic movie taken in a vacuum and one I personally love, Alien 3 is a prime example of an unfulfilling sequel. With Hicks and Newt so unceremoniously killed off, Ripley is regressed, going from lone survivor (Alien) to mother of makeshift family unit (Aliens) to lone survivor once more. The audience at least partially rejected Alien 3 because they, on a conscious or subconscious level, felt cheated. Alien 3 makes Aliens useless, as it renders the extensive character development there inconsequential.

Amazingly, Terminator 3 does the same thing as Alien 3 but even worse and without the benefit of being a good movie on its own. In a nutshell, The Terminator was about maintaining the world's destiny. Kyle Reese ensures that John Connor is born, and the T-800 inadvertently (as shown by T2) ensuring that Skynet is also likewise born. Brilliantly, T2 alludes that the future may be altered, taking to heart- John Connor's iconic message— “no fate but what we make.” The ending is wonderfully open-ended, not stating whether or not the events did make a difference. But, then Terminator 3 completely betrays this! In stating that Judgment Day is inevitable, it not only completely disregards the hope of T2 but also John Connor's iconic message. On the other hand, Terminator Genisys expands on the idea that the future may be changed, and Judgment Day may be stopped. It leaves open the possibility that preventing Skynet from rising is possible, albeit really complicated. Yet, as the mid-credits scene shows, Judgment Day may still come. Ambiguity is essential in this franchise, as James Cameron and the makers of Genisys understand.

A running sub-theme of T2 is that man is becoming more machine-like in the name of victory. Sarah Connor, with her knowledge of the horrible future, teeters close to the edge of Terminator-esque merciless efficiency. This is particularly highlighted in the scene where she tries to kill Miles Dyson. The picture of the future John Connor is an even bleaker one; in the once scene we see him, he is emotionlessly scanning the battlefield like a Terminator. Those behind Terminator 3 thought the most interesting progression would be to turn John Connor into a hobo played by Nick Stahl, who gets bullied by Arnold for the length of a movie. They humanize him by showing that he has weaknesses and has qualms about violence, as shown with the paintball gun. Giving him a wife and “important,” assassination-worthy lieutenants undermines James Cameron's depiction of John Connor as a “Great Man” of history, who used his burdensome knowledge of the future to save the human race. John Connor is supposed to be distant and rather inhuman; having him be married and overly friendly with anyone but Kyle Reese betrays that. Like Salvation almost did beforehand, Genisys has the novel idea of making John's machine-like tendencies literal. This completes the progression of him slowly losing his humanity.

Terminator Genisys also is superior to Terminator 3 in terms of character progression. In their modifications to the timeline, the creators of Genisys ensure Sarah Connor is still a badass like we saw in T2, albeit one who has her humanity fully intact. It would be awful to have Sarah regress to being a waitress, a passive character, as she would be, had the timeline not been rebooted. They go on to explore the interesting possibility of Kyle Reese meeting this toughened Sarah Connor, which he didn't get to originally because of his death at the end of the first Terminator. The character who the Genisys filmmakers did justice most in terms of logical progression was Arnold's. Now, let me preface this by declaring that I understand Arnold is playing a different Terminator in every movie. Even so, because it's always Arnold, it's hard for an audience not to at least subconsciously think of him as a single entity. Between Terminator 2, he undergoes a radical character arc in the eyes of the audience, from unfeeling monster to benevolent compassionate surrogate father figure. It is unsatisfying in Terminator 3 to “regress” to unfeeling but benevolent, with occasional outbursts of physical violence towards John. Genisys instead continues along the natural arc set up by two, showing him turn to a more positive character— from the father figure in T2 to a literal father named “Pops,” who basically raises Sarah from the age of 9.

Sorry if this post has been long, but I really wanted to explain why I feel that Genisys doesn't deserve all the wanton bashing it gets throughout the Internet. To conclude, in no way am I saying that Terminator Genisys is better than T2 or The Terminator but it is the sequel I can put next to those classics without regret.

         I agree with this review, with one ENORMOUS reservation.

         Also, I might have appreciated T3 and TSal a little bit more. I went into those movies expecting that they would use T2 as a platform to launch to the next level. I wasn't overwhelmed in that regard. T3 had a cool twist at the end and TSal developed themes. Apart from colors, I thought they were solid additions to the constantly shifting universe.

        TGen is definitely shooting high. It's suggesting provocative themes in the future (should it come.) The movie itself was a platform. As such, in story structure, screenplay, FX, and faithfulness to the universe, I give it high marks. 

        I will be a contrarian and praise the acting efforts of the entire cast. I was concerned after seeing the first trailors, but I thought they were all spot-on. When fanboys trash them, I believe they are expressing their great frustration at the sense that these newbies weren't nearly enough like the originals.

       And this brings me to my ENORMOUS reservation. Going in cold with no time to consider shifting timelines, this movie flew DIRECTLY into the face of my GREATEST PET PEAVE with hollywood practices like an unstoppable force at an immovable object.

      When I become The Supreme Commissar For Screen Entertainments, it will be STRICTLY FORBIDDEN for the big-wig wizards of prepro to even consider casting characters who are supposed to be the same as originals at a different or alternate time without making every possible effort to find someone with as many of the physical qualities of appearance, bearing, presence, voice quality... as much like a fraternal twin as is possible. Much the same with characters who are supposed to be near kin such as siblings, parents or children. Failure to comply will result in lifetime forced labor washing dishes in craft service.

      There must be a way to cast a very wide net to pull in those with the greatest likeness. Casting is of CRITICAL IMPORTANCE. It rates a significant percentage of the budget. Could a library of all high school yearbooks be assembled? Could a substantial finder's fee be offered to high school drama coaches and teachers who might remember students with the most potential similarity? If you could find 100, at least 3 or 4 of them will have strong innate acting ability even if they've never performed. Whatever, they've got to start GETTING THIS RIGHT. Nothing else can blast me straight out of a movie like insufficient likeness.

      NuSC is more pixie than LH/SC, but otherwise I had no problem believing she could be a fraternal twin. It would have been helpful to make it clear that the timeline had been altered before her conception (my rationalization for character differences in ST09.) Had she been playing opposite a character even remotely like MB/KR, and a John Conner who seemed even remotely related to both of them, there might not have been a significant problem.

      T1 was a work of casting genius. Ahnohd had that alien, powerful, not a normal human quality, LH was perfect as a struggling young women discovering her inner strengths, and the detectives and psychiatrist hit their marks and beats without fail. MB probably doesn't get his due. The character he projected through his voice, leaness and gaunt wide-eyedness was just exactly what it should have been. I had no trouble accepting him as a refugee from a post-apocalyptic future. That I had no idea what he would have been had judgement day never come, a serial killer or a college professor or a taxi driver or an insurance adjuster or mechanic...gave him the mystery he needed as the tale unfolded.

      I was actually impressed by the way NuKR was able to step into that impossible position and represent. Dude is a competent actor. But for his physical qualities, beefyness, no wide-eyes, working-man demeanor, deep voice... he was just too different from MB/KR for me to accept him in the role. He came across as a bro-dude who would raise his son to be state champion full-back and then go into construction contracting. I greatly appreciate those salt-of-the-earth types of people and regard them, at the end of the day, as VASTLY more intelligent than the characters we are supposed to regard as our betters, but that's just too pegged for the KR of the apocalypse that I imagined. There seems to have been some deliberate counter-casting.

     NuJohn was also very competent with what he was given. His sharp angular features were ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like his parent's. It was as though they had cast a Tanzanian with a thick African accent. Without time to account for alternate timelines, all I could think while watching the first 80 minutes or so was WWWHHHHHHYYYYYY?!?!?!?!? WWWHHHHYYYYYYY did they do this?!?!?!?!?

     About three-quarters through I finally was able to think "It is what it is" and settle more into the story. It was quite solid and open to future developement.

    If I was a studio suit and this film, with it's tremendous problem, earned back even half it's money, I would risk my career to green-light the next installment. It definitely has places to go.