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Alien is a movie that needs the big screen. You need to be completely enveloped it the setting. I don't see the point in small screen versions.
Yeah. Well, I was going somewhere with it before I was rudely interrupted by suppertime.
But I'll take it to it's proper thread, for a change.
TV's Frink said:
thejediknighthusezni said:
I recall an international survey done in the early 80's, I believe. They had set out to study the differences in moral systems between tremendously differing faiths and cultures.
They wound up discovering an essential commonality of belief all over the world. It was basically The Ten Commandments, with or without Sabbath keeping and One God exclusively.
C'mon, that's what the homosexuals made you say.
Yep...........Well, except for not commiting adultery and coveting your neighbor's ass.
I recall an international survey done in the early 80's, I believe. They had set out to study the differences in moral systems between tremendously differing faiths and cultures.
They wound up discovering an essential commonality of belief all over the world. It was basically The Ten Commandments, with or without Sabbath keeping and One God exclusively.
INTERSTELLAR
I liked it quite well, in spite of some concerns. It's the sort of pure sci-fi I appreciate.
MINOR SPOILERS
Yeah, you could drive the Death Star through a couple of those plot holes. Fortunately, they came near the end when I was feeling ready for a wild ride.
^ Sweeping assertions.
This business of lumping all forms of supposed spirituality together is, to put it kindly, sloppy thinking. It's like claiming that the NAZIs and Pol Pot's Communist Party and The Humane Society are all political activist groups and so should be considered equally disreputable.
The Roman/Babylon Luciferian Mystery cult isn't remotely Christian. Many of the Protestant princes of the religious wars were motivated by the seizure of property and escape from the Roman-satanist impositions. Most of the foolishness and deceptions practiced in the kooky denominations are promoted by Roman infiltrators and their Jesuit masters to be highlighted in the controlled media.
First we have to toss out all the false doctrines and read the NT for the first time before we can even begin to judge the relative worth of Christianity.
^Do believers want evidence and proof?-- Absolutely! I was refering to the attitude among atheists. They insist that because we haven't met THEIR standards of proof, theism can have no practical application.
"...never cross the road again?"-- I was thinking that the bus represented our inevitable deaths (if Jesus doesn't come soon.) Leaving the road would mean abandoning anything that the Deity would likely find unacceptable.
"...Freely complying with destroyer."-- One should never comply with an evil destroyer. Well, unless the compliance is in a lesser matter in preparation for a soon strike for greater effect. One should accept the consequences of refusal.
Some "believers" are suicide bombers?-- Yes, but this argument is a bit like insisting that nobody should eat fruits and vegetables, as well as rejecting stones, dirt, and poison ivey. You should carefully select what is good for food.
ME regimes and Hitler?-- The "great" totalitarian powers were "essentially" atheist. Hitler was a proud atheist with occasional satanic occult dabblings and plenty of nods to his "Catholic" Jesuit pals.
New religion or one we already have?-- I favor jettisoning EVERYTHING the Roman/Babylon state church has imposed, together with those doctrines that the great Protestant churches have insisted on retaining. We should read the NT CAREFULLY and IN CONTEXT. Most people would be surprised to finally discover Christianity.
Knowingly created rebellious than why blame them.-- Here I must rely upon my pathetically limited human perspective. It seems to me that a being with a "God's eye view", seeing past, present, and future SIMULTANEOUSLY, might be simultaneously LEARNING and KNOWING. If you know in advance that Jack is going to punch Dirk in the face for no good reason, Jack's character is not one bit improved by your foreknowledge.
"Power corrupts...."-- The only way, at the end of the day, to escape Lord Acton's dictum is for the leaders to have a fearful and passionate devotion to True Law. If God cares nothing for Law, we are all ultimately lost.
Wow, atheist types really get hung up on "proof" and "evidence".
You could have placed a video taped security record of the murders in front of the OJ Simpson jury and they wouldn't see it.
If someone yells "Hey! A bus is coming around the corner and will RUN YOU OVER!!!" How much evidence would you need to get out of the road?
The objective of governance is not to achieve absolute proof. It is to achieve optimal conditions of pleasantness and decency for the individuals subject to it's jurisdiction.
It isn't enough to hope that people will behave of their own accord. people will quickly imagine "justifications" for anything. People require fear of judgement from an undeniable power.
Atheism fosters the idea that there is no inescapable ultimate power. The great totalitarian tyrannies of the 20th Century were essentialy atheist.
Of course, not all forms of theism are created equal.
To identify a form of belief that can be utilized for positive governance, it would have to display certain features:
It must provide a reason to greatly fear the judgement of acts that defeat the purposes of "governance", as opposed to tyranny. It must authorize earthly agencies to enforce the universal principals of Civil Law, while insisting that tyrants bear NO authority to impose their lawless will. It must authorize individuals to defend themselves, their families and their neighbors from outlaw powers. It would not bring discredit upon itself by suggesting that the ultimate power needs to be protected and promoted through violence. It must consistantly promote all that tends to create the strongest and happiest human societies.
"Absolute Proof" would defeat the purposes of a Creator who wishes to test the character of his creations.
Keep crying for absolute proof and you will see the type of characters who don't give a damn about that sort of thing holding ABSOLUTE POWER over you and everyone for whom you care most.
I go for the dialed-back Bonds with more serious themes.
For Your Eyes Only
Skyfall
GoldenEye
Well, maybe I should clarify.
I believe the Bible is inerrant in the sense of having come to us in the form that our creator intended.
Some things might be taken literally or might be metaphor, figurative, allegorical....
If I love chocolate caramel sundeas, and someone gives me the best sundea I have ever eaten, I might be so pleased and exultant that I run outside and shout to the hills and the sky about how wonderful it is.
It doesn't mean that I expect the hills and sky to be able to hear me.
God tells Cain that his brother's blood cries out from the ground. This doesn't mean that actual sound waves came up.
I doubt that anyone of the dead senses anything before resurrection.
darth_ender said:
thejediknighthusezni said:
^^If you can read what Jesus had to say about the rebellious and the afterlife and come away with the notion that they will be cool, without the assistance of serious drugs, I will concede your point in this instance.
I'm already taking too much time on this site today, as I have a lot to do this morning (slept for 14 hours straight after sleeping only one hour in 48 or so). Not everyone who doesn't fully accept Christ's gospel is rebellious. Is the Chinese pauper who has never heard of Jesus Christ, yet lived a noble life deserving of heaven? Is the Protestant who simply did not let LDS missionaries through his door rebellious(remember, this is assuming my church is true)? If I know God, I know he loves his children and wants to give as many an opportunity as possible.
Or did Christ simply preach to those in prison as an opportunity to brag?
"...in prison...." carries a connotation of being restrained UNDESERVEDLY.
The people who died before the time of Christ had no opportunity to rebel against the NT. It is possible to be righteous without having an opportunity to hear or read the Gospel. Such people are obedient to the Law and Logos under especially difficult circumstances. Law And Logos are part of the definition of Jesus the Son. These people manage to believe in Jesus without the benefit of Inspired Scripture.
People in Tajikastan or China may be righteous and decent today without having a reasonable opportunity to become "proper" Bible believing Christians. If Jesus doesn't come soon, they will die in their righteousness and decency. Is Jesus finished going down there?
Jesus would have had, and has, every right and reason to brag.
^^If you can read what Jesus had to say about the rebellious and the afterlife and come away with the notion that they will be cool, without the assistance of serious drugs, I will concede your point in this instance.
DuracellEnergizer said:
You should take thejediknighthusenzi's Divinely Revealed Truth™ seriously, people. If you don't, the Reptilians from the 666th planet of the Omega Satanus system are going to come to your houses at night and turn your children into meat smoothies.
LOL
Actually, it's the Luciferians who like to push this idea of "alien" origins.
It's a hell of a lot more impressive to suggest that they come from cosmic superbeings than the disgusting reality that they are purely DEPRAVED and PSYCHOPATHIC FREAKS whose only superpower is the infliction of unspeakable CRUELTIES onto the people who are INFINITELY SUPERIOR to them.
Oh, and my "Divinely Revealed Truth" is my ability to read the plain text of the Bible.
darth_ender said:
thejediknighthusezni said:
Do Mormons believe it is possible to refuse to become Mormon and yet be saved?
Can a "good Protestant" reject LDS and still achieve eternal life?
Bearing in mind that mormon is a nickname, we believe all must accept the fullness of Christ's gospel to be saved. We believe that much can be accepted after this life is over and that many good Christians and even good Muslims, buddhists, etc will accept the full truth eventually.
This idea, that people can get a "do-over" after this life, not only runs counter to my human sense of justice, but also everything I read on the subject in the OT and NT. Jesus said over and over again that the rebellious are condemned forever.
The source for that notion is The Brotherhood of the Snake. These characters have been twisting the word of God inside-out and backwards for thousands of years in order to draw people into their cruelties and excuse and empower themselves. That is their exact modus operandi.
Were you aware that the founder of LDS was a member of a Luciferian secret fraternity and some allege that he was murdered by his "brothers" for establishing an alternate exclusive society?
This could work well in the bitching thread.
I've drifted away from football. Many reasons. Marginal advantages from playing fields (Green Bay, Denver), ridiculous salaries, misbehavior, the sense that good players never get a shot coming up through college....
Perhaps the greatest reason is the way the teams can be spoiled early in the game and early in the season. These games are won and lost at the margins. A bad bounce or bad call or one bad move can give the opposing team a score advantage that can quickly take off the razor edge that is needed to come back. A good team can lose 2 of the first three or 3 of the first 5 games of the season and again lose their edge.
I think this can be largly offset by new rules:
If a team takes a lead of more than 7 points, the losing team could get an extra down. If they are behind by more than 14, they could be spotted an extra 10 yards as well as the extra down. This is not out of some hippy-chick desire to protect the loser's self esteem, but to keep the edge and the spectator's interest. The winning team would really have to prove that they are the best and not just benefiting from an early lucky turn or two.
The play-off rules could be altered to keep all teams involved throughout the season. For example, each conference could produce 4 division champs and two wildcards as well as 4 more lottery winners. The lottery teams would be chosen according to a drawing of the winners of the last 2/3 of regular season games. If game 8 of the regular season is drawn, the teams that won the 8th game of their season would play another lottery winner while the six best teams have a by-game. If every losing team and their fans knew there was a significant chance that the latter-season game they were playing might be chosen by lot, they would have a reason to try instead of avoiding injury.
Apart from this, they should eliminate pre-season and begin regular season in mid-August, ending just after Thanksgiving.
Get on this, OTers!!!
Do Mormons believe it is possible to refuse to become Mormon and yet be saved?
Can a "good Protestant" reject LDS and still achieve eternal life?
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This has flashing back to my own rudimentary attempts at color adjustment.
You can never get exactly what appeared in the original theatrical presentations. It's just a matter of playing around until you can produce something about as good or maybe even improved (for a different format.)
I never had the equipment or could go very far.
Contrast and brightness was always a big question mark. "Do we really need the darkest 5 or 6 degrees, or the brightest 5 or 6?" "Does it get too muddy?" "Could they be left in the mid-range to avoid constant readjustment?"
Edge adjustments and drops might not be as useful as picking middle range and getting simple and clear edges.
I simplified down to five degrees of adjustment for each and then tried a sort of color reversed OTTO (or OTOT) to get 10. I didn't know whether I wanted to play with that many different parameters and I was afraid that 10 could increase my difficulties exponentially.
In short, I didn't really know what I was doing.
I'll leave it to the pros.
In '77, I had no idea that there was a "phenomena" taking place. My father, a casual sci-fi buff, came home one evening and gathered my mom and sibling and took us to the theater. There was a long line of excited people of all ages. Lots of MTFBWYs flying around. I still had no idea what was happening. We got in and the opening crawl just blew everyone away. The ships went roaring over our heads and everyone was completely captivated. It was the most electric and shared movie experience I've ever had.
In '80, I went with my cousin. The darker tone seemed to fit perfectly with the times. It was like living a game of 'Asteroids'. Dagobah was spooky and enchanting. Stunning.
In '83 I went with a friend and we were wowed. Full and fun.
I might be willing to go for a reboot of TOS.
Maybe after the movie series completes. Or, another break in the timeline producing a new set of the principals.
I don't know if Paramount owns the storylines of the various episodes from TOS, TNG, Voy, DS9, and Enterprise free and clear.
If so, it might be fun to do an entire series of remake episodes from the best story concepts. Same basic ideas, only made even better.
'77 Larpenter
'80 Har Mar
'83 Ridgedale
THE GIVER
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS GALORE
Interesting.
Our tale is set in a dystopian future. Fortunately, we have nothing to fear in our time for a society ruled by a tiny enlightened elite who would reduce the populace to pliant zombies with mind melting chemicals and control over the media. A society claimed to be for human benefit, but where any effort to live the way humans are meant to live is rendered impossible. Our free thinking people would never turn against someone who has become conscious with cries of "Conspiracy Lunatic!"
What some might mistake as an allegory for contempory whitebread suburban American society is an impossible future where conformity, uniformity, and absence of disruptive passions are valued above all. Think 'drug-addled, homosexual prostitute's conception of The American Dream'. Or, imagine the sort of WASPy, control-freaky lefties who would seize control of the neighborhood association of a whiteflight suburb taking their program to it's logical end.
Fear not, intrepid moviegoers, for there is a wise elder "Giver" and a youthful protaganist who is called...wait for it...aahhaaaaa "Receiver". ('Cuz freedom's where it's at, myaaaannn. Ya gotta, like, open your doors of perception, myaaaannn.)
The Giver wears a black blouse with a high collar with a gap in the center and lives like a monk on the edge of the community in a Romanesque rectory full of old manuscripts of forbidden knowledge and with a Mithratic starburst emblazoned in the stone floor in a fashion that NO ONE could EVER call Jesuitical.
"The Receiver" is a teenaged boy who's assigned function in the community is to take the place of the elder Giver as the rememberer of forbidden knowledge (just in case the ruling junta needs to understand banned practices of the past.)
The Giver must pass on his memories and understanding. As we all know, there is only one possible way for the Givuit to impart such information; by suddenly YANKING naive, downey-chinned lads "almost" onto his lap and smashing their naked skin hard against his. The Givuit does this, and the young "Receiver" has his mind suitably liberated.
The Givuit then sends "The Receiver" on a mission to carry a special Receiver baby across a blazing desert, a raging river, and on a snowsled down a frozen mountainside in order to cross the outer borderline, the act of which will cause everyone in the community to remember everything from the past by a method that, I'm sure, made far more sense in the book from which this movie was adapted.
Our epic closes with "The Receiver" carrying the special baby boy as an offering into a shrine dedicated to The Rebirth of the Su-... I mean... taking the baby to a large mountain cabin that appears to be celebrating Christmas.
The moral of the story is clear: Go ahead and surrender to totalitarianism. Let the elite destroy everyone in every possible way. Hand your children over to be defiled and turned utterly depraved. Feed them neuron-melting pills like candy and shoot 'em up with every kind of rat poison. No worries. It's all cool. We have our own Givuits, who are perfectly innocent of all these "evils", scattered around all our communities across the country and, indeed, all over the world. These Givuits stand in their temples filled with their secret wisdom ready to be unleashed onto the forces of "evil" oppression. All they need is a steady supply of pretty little boys, and they're good to go.
You have the Jesuits' word of honor. ;*)
END SPOILERS
This movie had serious flaws attributable to a great love and faithfulness to the book. But, on the whole, I recommend it.
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY
I enjoyed it quite a bit. Well done all around.
The MCU is actually turning me into a fan of the genre. I thought I left my comic book days behind long ago.
Bingowings said:
Here are some nice images of Ms Bacall.
They don't capture the smokey velvet of her voice however.
Every time I see her I think of Jessica Rabbit, and vice versa, and I have to chuckle.
A striking and lovely persona.
RIP Ms Bacall, and, if deserving, resurrection to glory.
Franny seems to be warning the clergy to stay on script because he has the power to have them imprisoned or tear down the whole operation.
If the real number is higher for the clergy in general, it must be much higher still among the Jesuits in particular.
Also, these utterly depraved satanists love to make a major distinction between pedophelia and pederasty.
