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#1351385
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Knight of Kalee said:

The one where Luke accepts the saber and walks off was surprisingly well made, though it made me wonder how does Rey retrieve it later.

Is there any version where Luke just hands the lightsaber back to Rey, using a reversed version of the close-up where Luke receives it?

Yep. Go to youtube and search something like “luke hands saber back to rey,” “last jedi luke returns saber” etc.

This is a very common edit, I see 10 just on the first page.

I.e.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6OKmGlXLTQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-alL-AT6mJI

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#1351372
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Ed Slushie said:

Since so many people are contributing some impressive FX shots for edits of tRoS, I was wondering if anyone on this thread knew anyone who could make a shot of Luke’s saber hitting the ground for any TLJ edit that has Luke drop the saber instead of throwing it.

There’s a few edits like that on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sAk-8wmtpE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6OKmGlXLTQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M78iin4y22I
This one is interesting in that it goes the other way and he takes it.

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#1351301
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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szopman said:

As crazy as it sounds, maybe Kylo Ren slaughter in the Forest could be reused then as Endor? The fire could be explained as l, u know, battle field, FO slaughtering 🤷‍♂️ or Just a flashback. Damn, this sequence is Just too cool to be cut 😅

ACTUALLY…that’s not a bad idea…for a Force Awakens edit.

Originally, Kylo “Jedi Killer” Ren was going to have a scene where he raided Vader’s funeral pyre.

In fact that’s probably the inspiration for the Sith Wayfinder scene.

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#1350744
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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RogueLeader said:
I personally think it would fit better to replace Palpatine repeating the “to cheat death” line that doesn’t do anything beyond being a callback. Either way, I think this change would accomplish a few things. First, we get a stronger explanation and understanding of Palpatine’s true nature and means of survival at the beginning of the film rather than the end. Second, it provides a good reason for why Kylo didn’t just immediately kill him. And third, it creates dramatic irony during the climax, because we know what is at stake if Rey kills Palpatine, but she doesn’t. So hopefully the audience would react by thinking, “No no no, Rey, don’t do it he’ll possess you!”

Seriously, this works on so many levels. I don’t get how JJ and co could have written such a terrible climax with Palpatine literally giving reasons for Rey not to kill him. That’s beyond gloating and full on nonsensical dialogue where BOTH parties suddenly become stupid.

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#1350346
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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EddieDean said:

specialk2121 said:

Hal 9000 said:

It’s weird to feel a little sad to see how… close to being sort of complete the cutlist is.

I’ll be real with you, it’s gonna be hard when this thing is finished.

If only there was a way to do a big watch party premiere when it’s done. To send the HAL9000 saga out with a bang!

We could get everyone on Discord and sync up a play of it!

I’d be interested.

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#1350263
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Tiny edit idea for ESB
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BedeHistory731 said:

I tend to think of Dagobah as akin to Dragon Ball’s Hyperbolic Time Chamber/Room of Spirit & Time. One year inside the chamber takes up only one day outside of it. Dagobah time is elongated, which would account for the extended time Luke spent training/Yoda’s age catching up to him a bit more.

That’s just a “head canon” for me.

That’s a cool idea, though I doubt Lucas thought of it that way and probably just ignored the specific time length details for the overall “feel” of the training montage.

Thumbs up to you for spelling head canon right and not the silly headcannon, which IS something in Dragonball, hahaha.

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#1350259
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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StarkillerAG said:

thebluefrog said:

A: Luke is isolated because there’s a far bigger threat coming. The tragedy is that he had to focus on that while Snoke took advantage of the vacuum. He knows lives are being lost but EVERYTHING could die without his effort. However, he failed to see the enormity of how far the First Order had spread in his absence, and realizes the new generation needs his guidance and can’t solve everything alone.

That’s an amazing idea. I might actually use it in my sequel edits to remove Luke’s surly attitude, while still explaining his absence. The bigger threat would be revealed to be Palpatine, giving that plot twist more foreshadowing.

Thanks! Go for it.

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#1350238
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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JakeRyan17 said:

The Emperor is the head of the Empire, which was the main threat of the original trilogy. Another separate threat would be introducing a new and separate antagonist. Lucas never did this. Snoke and the First Order was the primary antagonist, setting up Kylo to supplant him. Having an extra force to fight against that The First Order also has to fight against would have convoluted everything, be that threat another force or Knights of Ren.

TFA establishes Luke was ashamed due to Kylo turning to the dark side and that’s why he went into exile. It’s in the crawl and repeated in dialogue from Han.

No one lost the ability to use the Force, if anything it’s more widely believed in during TFA than ANH. Even non-Jedi/non-Sith characters use the Force (Maz).

Kylo is the leader of the knights of Ren. That is the only thing we know about them outside of the Kylo Ren comics.

I’m just saying that Johnson developed what Abrams introduced. If you have a problem with what was introduced, your issue is with Abrams not Johnson.

You’re not getting my point. You’re nitpicking little details that don’t 100% match when that’s not remotely the issue. The crawl in TFA did NOT mention anything about guilt or Kylo at all. Maz did not use the force. Kylo is not the leader of the Knights AT THE TIME of the movie alone. You’re bringing in things from other sources, when I was specifically saying that within the context of TFA and TFA alone, things could go anywhere.

When Lucas wrote the original movie, SEVERAL aspects were totally ignored, changed, and retconned for Empire. For example, the SW Emperor wasn’t a threat, he was still, at that stage, a useless bureaucrat and not part of the plot.

Or, you know, Vader being Luke’s father, the biggest rewrite of all.

The point is that things can be changed for the better–you just have to use your imagination. That’s what this entire editing hobby is about.

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#1350229
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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JakeRyan17 said:

A. B.
The other threat needed to be established in that first film. Revealing a new antagonist later on doesn’t work, such as Palpatine in Rise of Skywalker.

C. D.
Goes against The Force Awakens.

E. Goes against The Force Awakens and introduces another antagonist force in an already convoluted and confusing sociopolitical world that wasn’t fleshed out as it was.

Again, your beef with that choice should be aimed at Abrams.

How does anything “Go against the Force Awakens”? Nothing in TFA was established due to JJ’s blank setup. There’s no context at all for Luke’s flashbacks. Snoke is 100% unknown. Kylo has zero history with Luke at the time other than generic hatred. Besides, Palpatine wasn’t introduced until Empire. Lucas himself can introduce bigger threats in the second film.

Nitpicking the details isn’t the point of what I said, it’s to illustrate you can go anywhere.

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#1350220
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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JakeRyan17 said:

thebluefrog said:
JJ started it, yes, but it was Rian who took the ball and ran with it. Hamill definitely didn’t want things to go they way they did in TLJ. JJ’s mystery box COULD have been opened in a more appropriate way.

How? By going against everything set up in the prior film? By having a primary hero not grow or develop over 30 years? By sidelining the new characters to have Luke take over the story again?

The only other interesting choice would’ve been for Luke to be revealed the puppet master behind Snoke.

No way, come on, this is Star Wars. We have a universe of possibilities. It’s like when Kennedy said they don’t have a bunch of books or comics to go off…there’s literally 30 years of ideas people have offered.

Just as I’m sitting here, here’s a few ideas I came up with that are solely based off the brief flashes from TFA that had no context at the time.

A: Luke is isolated because there’s a far bigger threat coming. The tragedy is that he had to focus on that while Snoke took advantage of the vacuum. He knows lives are being lost but EVERYTHING could die without his effort. However, he failed to see the enormity of how far the First Order had spread in his absence, and realizes the new generation needs his guidance and can’t solve everything alone.

B: A new enemy emerged, almost like a parasite that feeds off Luke. The Jedi usage of the Force attracts it, and to protect the galaxy he needed to suppress himself. Reduced to no Jedi power, he had to research with bare bones paper and wooden tools to find a solution. Rey and friends disagree and think that they should still fight in the same good and evil sense: they MUST use the Force because Kylo and Snoke are. Both sides cannot agree, causing tragedy when neither belief’s absolutism can solve the problem.

C: Luke had his own child and family. The are lost in a senseless tragedy–not evil, not good, just random. The sheer enormity of the callous randomness of the galaxy breaks Luke’s faith in the idea of darkness vs light and the idea of balance loses meaning to him. It is no one’s fault, not Kylo, not Snoke, and not Luke. Can Rey’s own experiences regarding the cruelty of her own life contrast Luke’s broken soul?

D: While the galaxy was at peace, Luke attempted to build a new Jedi order. But something slowly went wrong. The new Jedi start to lose their connection to the force. There’s no war, no enemy, no cause…yet the Jedi connection to the force is simply dying.

Luke: “Darkness rises and light to meet it…but what happens when Light simply fades?”

While the New Jedi Order slowly diminished, it left them vulnerable, and the new empire, even without the Sith, were able to simply militarily overwhelm the weakened Jedi. Luke survived, but is now a powerless hermit wracked with survivor’s guilt. Can a Jedi still teach without the Force?

E: The Knights of Ren are not Sith. They are not Jedi. They do not use the force. They do not want the force. They take no political side. Using their unique form of armor based off 60 years of analyzing Republic and Empire technology, they are immune to the force in all ways. They cannot be mind tricked. They cannot be force pushed. They cannot be lightsabered. They are simply slow, methodological killers who believe in their cause. They hunted down and killed every one of Luke’s students. They are not allied with The First Order; they are a third faction and have their own agenda, because this is war, and war is not a cut and dry, black and white, good versus bad situation. They do not follow Kylo Ren, for he is a traitor who wishes to use the Force. And once they have exterminated Luke…they will come for him.

These are just several random ideas off the top of my head and just based off TFA’s mystery box. Sure they’re not perfect but it’s illustrating that there is ALWAYS a different way to go in writing fiction. There is no limit but your own imagination.

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#1350186
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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JakeRyan17 said:

thebluefrog said:

NeverarGreat said:

Harrison was right to want his character dead by the end of ROTJ.

Exactly. Harrison’s ideas of where the character should go have merit. If only Hamill’s ideas had been listened to as as well.

*had been listened to by JJ Abrams, who introduced the Luke abandoning the galaxy in shame plotline.

JJ started it, yes, but it was Rian who took the ball and ran with it. Hamill definitely didn’t want things to go they way they did in TLJ. JJ’s mystery box COULD have been opened in a more appropriate way.

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#1350168
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NeverarGreat said:

thebluefrog said:

NeverarGreat said:

thebluefrog said:

Frankly, they should’ve both just let Hamill and Ford et al. decide their characters’ fates.

Well, yes and no.

Yes, if you’re going for unchanging characters since the actors have inhabited these roles for years and know a whole lot about what makes these characters tick.

No, if you’re going for a continuation of a character arc like Hermit Luke. In this case it’s important for the writers to know what they’re doing.

Not at all. Harrison Ford, for example, wanted Han to die.

Does anyone think Han as Rebellion General was peak Solo?
Do they love him for his role as lapsed Smuggler?
Is he at all iconic as a failed father?

Harrison was right to want his character dead by the end of ROTJ.

Exactly. Harrison’s ideas of where the character should go have merit. If only Hamill’s ideas had been listened to as as well.

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#1349965
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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NeverarGreat said:

thebluefrog said:

Frankly, they should’ve both just let Hamill and Ford et al. decide their characters’ fates.

Well, yes and no.

Yes, if you’re going for unchanging characters since the actors have inhabited these roles for years and know a whole lot about what makes these characters tick.

No, if you’re going for a continuation of a character arc like Hermit Luke. In this case it’s important for the writers to know what they’re doing.

Not at all. Harrison Ford, for example, wanted Han to die.

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#1349945
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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JKMaxx said:

Not to comment too much on the validity of either situation, but given the constant ongoing cries of character assassination over hermit Luke despite that idea coming from Lucas, pre-dating both Rian and JJ, I can’t imagine the wider reaction to the idea that Leia started the First Order and was to blame for all of it all along. Even if it could track with her character arc, just the tarnishing of her good name so to speak would drive people insane. I certainly would be impressed with any edit that pulls it off, but just something to keep in mind.

There’s one benefit to give Lucas’ writing over Rian or JJ: Lucas listened to the actors and altered the character arcs and stories based on their feedback. There’s countless interviews from the OT where Ford or Hamill said Lucas was able to be convinced that their characters wouldn’t do X or say Y.

So hermit Luke indeed was a Lucas idea, but definitely would not have been executed as Rian did, especially given how Hamill was unhappy with the way the character was written. Even the cliche Obi-Wan “old master gives Excalibur and then dies” would’ve been a better way to end Luke than the contradicting yes/no/maybe mess from JJ and Rian.

Frankly, they should’ve both just let Hamill and Ford et al. decide their characters’ fates.

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#1348381
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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JakeRyan17 said:

thebluefrog said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Then we have the new characters introduced in 2 and 3. Did most audiences really care about Holdo, Rose, the literally unnamed DJ, Jannah, or Zorri? Snoke had potential but that was cut off before anything could grow.

The difference is in TLJ the secondary characters move the character arcs along, whereas in TRoS they’re just kinda there.

In the end, there was no real arc for Finn, so that renders most of TLJ’s characters kinda there. Canto Bight, DJ, Rose…if Finn HAD died in TLJ, it would’ve been at least some form of resolution. The fakeout is basically the end of his character path in the sequels and it’s pretty weak.

Finn had a clear arc in The Last Jedi, and the clever thing was it was inverted from Rose’s even though the same experiences teach them the lessons. Rose and Poe’s arcs are to go from an “at all costs” approach, ready to sacrifice everything, to understanding that sometimes doing whatever it takes isn’t the same thing as doing it at all costs. Finn’s arc goes from a man without a cause, driven by fear, to becoming someone that understands there are things worth fighting for, even being ready to sacrifice himself. A lot of people say his arc is ruined since he doesn’t sacrifice himself, but that’s not true since he was actually ready to sacrifice himself. He was still making that choice.

While that’s true the arc could be seen that way, the fact that it had very little impact on the overall narrative renders Finn…boring. If that idea of him leading a Stormtrooper rebellion had come to fruition, that would’ve made his character’s progress throughout all 3 films something to follow on rewatches. As it stands, though, his impact overall is very minimal, despite being hyped as a major character with TFA. The general population don’t remember Finn (or even Poe), they basically remember Rey and Kylo. Even Boyega commented on how badly his character lost relevance as the trilogy progressed. Remember when he grabbed Luke’s saber and the sheer power it radiated as it ignited with his intense face? That scene in every trailer? The guy wanted to kill Kylo right then and there and there was an intensity to the fight. Then he slowly became a joke in TLJ and then full on comedic sidekick in ROS. Couple years and no one’s gonna remember him riding whatever CGI animal in either film.

That being said, it wouldn’t surprise me if the rumors are true and Boyega recants and comes back to Disney as Jedi Finn, especially now that Iger has admitted they screwed up and they need to draw back some disenfranchised fans. That footage will likely be usable with editing.

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#1348341
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Anakin Starkiller said:

Then we have the new characters introduced in 2 and 3. Did most audiences really care about Holdo, Rose, the literally unnamed DJ, Jannah, or Zorri? Snoke had potential but that was cut off before anything could grow.

The difference is in TLJ the secondary characters move the character arcs along, whereas in TRoS they’re just kinda there.

In the end, there was no real arc for Finn, so that renders most of TLJ’s characters kinda there. Canto Bight, DJ, Rose…if Finn HAD died in TLJ, it would’ve been at least some form of resolution. The fakeout is basically the end of his character path in the sequels and it’s pretty weak.

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#1348324
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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Dendros said:

I think at the very least we should try to have each character whose voice we hear make at least a brief appearance as a force ghost in that scene.

As shown before, Yoda, Anakin (Who should possibly be shown as sebastian shaw if possible for continuity), Luke, Obi-wan have been integrated into the scene well. I would like to additionally see at least Mace Windu and Qui-Gon Jin (Especially Qui-Gon as he was the very first jedi we see chronologically, bringing the story full circle in a way). Ayla Secura wouldn’t be too hard to add from footage. Luminara Unduli has like one shot in AOTC. Adi Gallia, Kanan Jarrus, and Ahsoka Tano and don’t have any footage that I am aware of so including them might prove challenging aside from using cosplayers or something.

There may be an answer to some of this. Massive 2021 Star Wars spoilers, seriously do not look if you care about spoilers and news for the future of SW media.

https://tinyurl.com/ycbngayn

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#1348312
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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DominicCobb said:

2 did flow naturally from 1. I honestly don’t think there’s much in TROS of JJ’s ideas for 2 and 3. I think he got caught up in off-base fan complaints of both TFA and TLJ and he tried to rethink the whole trilogy in one film.

If you read the Artbook for Force Awakens, many ideas from it were used in ROS. For example, Rey sabering an imperial ship, returning to Palpatine’s throne room, the Death Star wreckage underwater, DIO as a variant of BB8’s design, etc.

Samples:
https://i.imgur.com/ioTT9gl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0oPFoji.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/D25CcHS.jpg

Anakin Starkiller said:

JJ and his “mystery box” approach worked for getting people interested in the “fresh start” aspect. However, without any actual payoff, TLJ retroactively undoes any intrigue or mysteries of TFA. The surprises of Empire don’t make watching ANH worse in its plot points (for the most part) but TLJ makes all the questions from TFA basically pointless.

They were dumb questions to begin with.

Rey’s parents was kind of interesting but when you don’t answer it and leave us to think about it for a year, then everyone forms clear ideas on who they think they should be

As for everything else, I’d argue it’s less intentional mystery and more Abrams stumbling over his own feet by skipping any kind of backstory. Did you really think Snoke was supposed to be someone we knew? Of course not, because he was just Palpatine 2.0. What Abrams failed to realize was that unlike in ESB, you can’t just introduce the evil ruler of the universe without providing some context. Naturally, people started asking questions about him.

The fact that you even asked the questions at all shows that TFA’s soft reboot worked-AT THE TIME. Lucasfilm should’ve made JJ come up with actual answers to the seeds he planted to get people interested since he is notorious for not even knowing where he’s going. It’s insane how uncoordinated Disney and Lucasfilm were by allowing both JJ and Rian to just do whatever they wanted with the plotline, crossing out each other’s writing like children.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Honestly, I really like how Snoke is set up as the Emperor 2.0 but then Kylo goes “fuck this” and offs him halfway through the trilogy. It’s subversive and it works.

This, however, is one of the few “answers” that Rian came up with that sort of worked.

JakeRyan17 said:

As for new characters that were introduced in Rise of Skywalker, the two most prominent were both added to the script for the same reason: to shout “No homo”. Zorri doesn’t serve the plot, and is only there to be a romantic interest from Poe’s past. Jannah is meant to be a romantic interest to replace Rey (for the sake of Reylo shippers) and Rose. And there was no way we could allow Poe and Finn to have a romantic connection despite their chemistry, fans, and even actors’ desire… but it’s good to know there’s a line JJ won’t cross for fan service.

That’s what I mean about last minute character additions. They felt like they should’ve been introduced in 2 rather than the finale. As it turns out, none of the characters introduced in 2 or 3 were as interesting as of TFA’s mystery box characters. At the time, Rey, Finn, Kylo were interesting because we didn’t know their histories in the SW universe. They were new concepts that grew out of the old real life lore–a black, rebellious stormtrooper? A new mystery female Jedi? A psychotic “What Anakin was supposed to act like” emotional Sith? These were new, different takes on what people were used to. JJ is a terrible writer but he comes up with good concepts, and people cared about these new 3 leads.

Then we have the new characters introduced in 2 and 3. Did most audiences really care about Holdo, Rose, the literally unnamed DJ, Jannah, or Zorri? Snoke had potential but that was cut off before anything could grow.

This is why I say there may be a way to edit down the extra characters and side plots to focus on what the sequel trilogy’s main focus came down to be: one or two people’s relationship deciding the fate of the galaxy. It’s a bit of a rehash of the OT, and the PT for that matter…but maybe that’s what the sequels should be, to some degree?

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#1348223
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The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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OutboundFlight said:

I somewhat agree. I think describing how Palpatine survived would be exposition, but the way he goes about it is worldbuilding for the Sith. They are forever intertwined.

In that essence, “exposition” isn’t bad either. I think we can all agree understanding why Palpatine returns is important.

For me the biggest issue with the ST’s “worldbuilding” or “exposition” or whatever is it doesn’t add logically to the earlier movies. When you jump from Ep 1 to 2, you are going in expecting Obi-Wan to be training a now Jedi Anakin. Ep 2 to 3 you expect the Clone Wars from how things last ended. 3 to 4 you expect the Empire to be in charge.

The jump from 6 to 7 is so frankly confusing because we expected to see Luke with a Jedi Order and the New Republic established. Yes, it’s perfectly reasonable to have tons of stuff go down in 30 years, but in terms of storytelling it feels strange. “Return of the Jedi” also is a very strange title when you think about it nowadays. With TLJ, it’s more a case of them having some sort of chance to fix these issues, but they doubled down instead. So it’s not really RJ’s fault, moreso him following Abram’s suit.

The closet comparison I can make is if Revenge of the Sith came out first, and then everyone got hyped for the sequel 19 years later… only to find the Empire was destroyed just a year after ROTS, Anakin was redeemed off-screen and is now missing, and Luke is training to be a Jedi like the entire PT never happened.

That’s a really good take. It’s why the sequel trilogy felt so disjointed. It wanted to be both a fresh start for Disney but also wanted to play it safe and have the nostalgic lore of the originals.

JJ and his “mystery box” approach worked for getting people interested in the “fresh start” aspect. However, without any actual payoff, TLJ retroactively undoes any intrigue or mysteries of TFA. The surprises of Empire don’t make watching ANH worse in its plot points (for the most part) but TLJ makes all the questions from TFA basically pointless.

ROS needed to be the second film–it clearly was a mishmash of his 2 and 3rd film ideas scribbled on one page, since ROS introduced so many extraneous characters…in the finale? If the 2nd film had at least followed naturally with the 1st, the new characters introduced in 2 would have natural storyarcs flow into 3, like Lando from Empire to Lando the hero in Jedi.

There may be a way to do an edit that shaves off all the extra pointless characters and mixes TLJ and ROS into a more coherent storyline.

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#1347374
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Some experiments have been done with Duel of the Fates or Battle of the Heroes being part of the Kylo/Rey fight. Here’s different timing examples.

Battle of the Heroes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOpRpYSXfkU
This one is well done–it also uses timing cues from the original lava fight, 1:12 is a good example.

This one uses the crescendos better for the force blocks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjMVwE-d4yU

Duel of the Fates:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djWxPM_41dQ
Good use of the low key at 1:35, but the timing of the Force-blocks doesn’t 100% match.

This one has slightly better timing of Duel’s chanting at the force block moments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYFlmVw4WUg

Interesting split screen comparison between Anakin/Obi-Wan and Rey/Kylo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCGpbotwRXw

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#1346963
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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Movies Remastered said:

I’m trying to bring it up here as I got my ass handed to me on reddit but…

Did anyone debunk the fact that Ray destroys kylo ren’s whisper after she jumps over it but then 2 seconds later it’s back? Both Vader and kylo Ren had prototypes before I.e. the silencer, so why would he have an extra as it was a specifically modified Interceptor?

I’ve fixed it but wondering people’s thought?

It was kept in the same second transport Chewie was really in.