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There's a lot more scenes that could be used. It's just a matter of getting to the priority ones first, and then doing the rest later on.
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Some of the prints have already been acquired. Its just a matter of shipping, scanning and storing them.
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As show previously in this post:
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Two of the prints we have, look like this:
This video was posted previously.
(newer partial Fuji print is on top, Kodak faded is on bottom):
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k3oNSb06Us7gzB4UETM
2nd comparison:
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k5RL4ToUooE7rq8ypAo
Parts of the Kodak print were being provide to Harmy for ESB.
We hope to have a better Fuji print for reference, and possibly the 16mm LPP, and another print in the near future.
Team Negative1
We will be sharing all the zoomed shots and possibly more when possible with Harmy for his ESB project, maybe for the 2.5 version. It's up to him.
Team Negative1
We will work something out with Harmy once we get more details about our prints, and also when he figures out what sections.
Most likely:
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The colors in our version will be corrected. But will still retain the orignal look. That is the way it was. The tech's have a slightly different tint, but still match up closely too.
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Backup up a little bit, this is the scene where Luke is captured by the Ice Creature:
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k2qLC4E4vWkLH98v8Uf
Comparison shots are here:
Top: GOUT Middle: '97 Broadcast Bottom: 2004 DVD
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From this post:
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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Complete-Comparison-of-Special-Edition-Visual-Changes/post/576936/#TopicPost576936
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From the threads first post:
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doubleofive:
I used WookieGroomer's Splitscreen 1080p wmv to take the frame-by-frame shots, and msycamore provided the 1997 screencaps.
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Here is a low bitrate preview of some of the changes made for the SE versions.
This one is from the desert scene, where the sky was later recomposited, and an optical wipe was changed. Original on the top, SE on bottom.
NOTE : There is a lot of damage on these frames, that will take awhile to fix.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k2t8VaLnoVXFAm8uHgO
Again, the shots are here:
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https://plus.google.com/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5514974191245813441
https://plus.google.com/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5514974191245813441/5514975307404619394?pid=5514975307404619394&oid=102542760950977079734
https://plus.google.com/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5514974191245813441/5515000495413674338?pid=5515000495413674338&oid=102542760950977079734
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Here is a very early preview of a brief comparison of 2 of the prints.
The older bluer tinted one is on the bottom.
The top one seems to have less weave in it.
Not sure about the differences in damage, although both
have a lot at the heads and tails.
NOTE : No color correction has been done, these are basically raw scans. So they will appear dark.
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REMOVED TEMPORARILY
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jero32 said:
Cool, looks good.
Any more shots of luke in the snow coming up? I really liked how it looked at the end of that clip :)
Thanks. We are going to concentrate on all the zoomed shots for now. We may return to those scenes later on.
Look through the screenshot comparisons to get an idea of which ones are coming up. Most are cockpit shots, although theres Luke hanging upside down in the cave, which was cropped differently.
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Here is the first of many of the zoomed shots for ESB.
Low quality preview:
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k4crL3pegScLFR8uFYs
For screenshots, go here:
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https://plus.google.com/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5525747538664147553
Shots included:
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https://plus.google.com/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5525747538664147553/5643001583379037234?pid=5643001583379037234&oid=102542760950977079734
https://plus.google.com/photos/+DrewStewart/albums/5525747538664147553/5643001584875842258?pid=5643001584875842258&oid=102542760950977079734
Discussion in this thread:
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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Complete-Comparison-of-Special-Edition-Visual-Changes/topic/11927/
There will be quite a few more of these quick shots posted shortly.
Team Negative1
We are previewing another print of Jedi now. We have a comparison of the first reel so far. The scan is not as blue tinted as the previous one. There might also be less gate weave on this one. Not sure about the extent of the damage on it. Will have more details once we check out the entire print.
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Saw that awhile ago. We have no need for it. Our equipment is comparable, and custom built.
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We will try to get some larger sample clips to show if there is any difference in different bitrates to estimate what you will be looking at.
We think a lot of variables will come into play, depending on the scene, on whether a larger encode has a noticeable picture quality variation.
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We stated in our first post that our videos will be 1080p, in digital format. And that will be easy to preserve on burnable discs.
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Again, there are people associated with this group, that have never posted, so talking about IP addresses does nothing.
We're not worried, because there is no product released,or anything beyond the scope of other projects here. When we're done, we'll just close up shop, and go our own ways.
Well, enough talk about that, and we'll have some more previews of that in the future
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Hint: There are several members that are part of our team that have never posted here in these forums. But you might have run across them somewhere else.
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Even the rough encodes that I've seen for 25Gig are more than enough for the previews. The standards are there so that people will not have to worry about not able to burn, or re-encode them for viewing on most devices.
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The person doing the work for us, does not want any publicly viewable shots of the setup. End of story.
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One last, and mostly final thought about the BD-50 issues. How many people can actually burn dual layer BD, and get blanks for them at a reasonable price. Very few.
Yes, opting for a digital download option might be possible, but then the issue about limiting it to 50 Gig comes up. You have to draw the line in the sand somewhere and ours is the bluray/mkv digital 25 Gig format.
A vast majority of people have access to bluray burners and blanks, and although more have DVD drives and burners, those people won't be left out either, as we will have the vast majority of formats, and types of media covered. One less will not make a huge impact on our plans.
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We will continue to post sample scenes when they are completed and available for viewing.
No need to wait for complete reels to be done, as this an asynchronous and parallel process, without having to wait for completion.
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poita said:
I don't see any of this as a competition at all, I fully support anyone trying to preserve Star Wars on any format, it is hard work, but also lots of fun.
I'm a big supporter of the team, and have provided a ton of resources to the -1 effort, and am looking forward to seeing their final results.
Agreed. Most of the people here, have no idea about the extent of co-operation, and discussions, and groundwork that has been done in the background. It will be a fascinating story someday once all is said and done, to trace back the genesis of this project, and its development.
And for us with minimal monetary compensation or additional resources, we try to stay as self-funded as possible.
This would not be possible with a larger operation, and we prefer it that way.
We have also done all we can to maintain privacy and anonymity, so regardless of any action taken, we have many contingency plans.
So to that extent, we're not worried too much about future repercussions or reprisals, but we are not taking unnecessary risks either.
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We will have news of another superior print becoming available shortly, and possibly one final one later this year. Stay tuned.
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Here are our estimates, except for reel 4.
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