That makes sense.
Yeah it doesn’t matter too much. That shot with Finn talking about landing and Poe walking away just seemed to be warmer to my eyes than the preceding argument scene. It might’ve been my display.
There’s no way that should be the case, knowing my process. But I’ll check as I do the eventual reencode. Thanks.
Yeah I don’t know if it’s my display, but I redownloaded it to check and the grading still switched. There’s another oddity with that scene too. I didn’t notice it in the changelist, but 0:45-1:07(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yfZcUC2rB_I) are missing. We go from Rey calling Poe a difficult man to Finn suddenly talking about just landing. I don’t know if that was intentional.
The scene where Poe and Rey argue about the damage done to the Falcon/BB8. When Finn joins in, the color grading switches to the original film’s tone.
Really enjoyed watching this again. Not sure if this was noted by someone before, but the color LUT doesn’t seem to have applied to the scene after Poe and Rey’s argument. The color grading completely changes between those two scenes.
I’m still amazed at how well the Duel of the Fates track works over the Ben-Rey fight. Every other version of this I’ve seen on YT removes the atmosphere of the scene. Here, it’s not epic. It’s haunting (as it should be).
The puppet show was a great addition. Continues the theme of the importance of myth from TLJ.
Very true. The inconsistencies in that are also more minor, such as references to the Republic comics or a lack of Ahsoka mentions.
I rewatched this and really enjoyed it. The edits are great, but I think I’ve genuinely started to like this movie. I think it’s got a lot of heart. I think I’ve also come to terms with the Rey Palpatine twist. It ties into the familial mythic aspect of the franchise when I think about it. The main villain of the franchise is destroyed by one from his own blood. That woman later inherits the name of Palpatine’s worst enemy, the family he’s tried to manipulate and crush for a century. It’s the ultimate defeat. The worst part of it, the horrid pacing, unfortunately can’t really be fixed with fanedits. Most of the edits here really lift the movie though. It adds that much needed connective tissue to the rest of the ST and more importantly, the entire saga. I especially love the references to Luke’s sacrifice on Crait.
I still think some of the additions feel a bit superfluous. The additional dialogue personally stands out for me, especially the Knights of Ren. All respect to the hard work involved in adding that, but it doesn’t seem organic to me.
Very excited for v 2.0. Great work everyone who worked on it.
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References to Darth Maul’s mother (Kycina) are taken out. Maul’s origin is presented as compliant to the Canon explanation (Sidious took Maul from Mother Talzin who is actually the mother). Dooku leaves the order in 42 BBY instead of at the end of the novel. Dooku scenes in the 34-32 BBY era are rewritten to reflect. Palpatine’s final words to Plagueis are changed slightly to reflect Rise of Skywalker.
The version I’m working in right now will remove some out of place EU references (such as the Bando Gora and Xanatos) and slightly extend the references to essence transfer already in the novel. In canon, Plagueis attempted essence transfer as he died. Sidious also survived post ROTJ with this technique. Surprisingly, there is already a allusion in the existing novel that Plagueis is attempting something when he dies.
First thanks for sharing your work. I looked up the Dooku mentions, i like what you have done.
A quick feedback, i think in Canon, the unifying force has been renamed cosmic force. It is something else you could change in the future. ( only 3 references in this book)
I did not know that. Thanks for the feedback. There are some other things that I forgot to take out, but they’re minor. I’ll probably update them in a future update. These include a few references to Bando Gora that don’t really fit, as well as a reference to Qui Gon’s former apprentice.
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Nope. It’s a great story, but it’s impossible to fit within the book seamlessly. It’s basically a scene in the book, but from the perspective of Tenebrous instead of Plagueis. It’s also written in a completely different style to Plagueis. Shadow Hunter also has a chapter that overlaps with Plagueis, but it’s written in a similar style to the latter novel. You can almost blend both books together for that scene, making it so it’s impossible to tell where one book starts and another begins.
The best place to read “The Tenebrous Way” would be after Chapter 1.
Restraint and End Game are two tie-ins that aren’t included either. Restraint conflicts heavily with TCW. End Game actually fits into canon nicely, but I didn’t include it in this version. It overlaps with chapters similar to how Shadow Hunter does, so it would work to splice it in. You can read it separately for now if you want to. I may include it in a future update.
PM sent. Enjoy! It’s a fantastic book. Hoping that James Luceno will write more in canon.
Version 1.5 has been finished. Additional lines have been rewritten and adjusted to flow more cleanly. Formatting errors in the last chapter have also been fixed. Paja’s feedback about the Nelvaan chapter needing a heading has been taken into account. Now there is a “AFTER THE BATTLE OF NELVAAN” chapter heading. You can stop reading and download NumeralJoker’s edit of the Battle of Nelvaan. Separate edits of the Battle of Nelvaan can also be found in Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6wTXHBsK4Y).
Restating that the upcoming novel “Brotherhood” will present a canon version of the Cato Nemodia incident. However, since Labyrinth of Evil has now been edited to fit into canon, you can choose which Cato Nemodia incident Obi Wan is referring to in ROTS. There is no reason why Obi Wan and Anakin can’t visit Cato Nemodia twice during the Clone Wars. Depending on how much that novel conflicts with Labyrinth and if they can even coexist, I may make another update of LOE to reconcile the two.
DARTH PLAGUEIS: THE CANON EDIT is a novel fanedit designed to bring the iconic novel and its associated tie-ins into Disney’s canon timeline. Version 2.0 is out.
I’ve always loved this book and felt that it’s the most essential piece of Star Wars tie-in media. It contextualizes the entire Prequel Trilogy and discusses themes prevalent throughout the franchise. It should be alongside The Clone Wars as a crucial section of the PT, regardless of canonicity. However, it conflicts heavily with canon in a few major areas. Namely, the origins of Maul and the events surrounding Dooku’s departure from the Jedi Order differ completely from their canon depictions. These sections have been cleverly rearranged and rewritten to make them consistent with canon content such as Son of Dathomir and Dooku: Jedi Lost. The original novel was also interesting in that it heavily references and crossed over with two other novels: Cloak of Deception and Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter. Since both novels do not clash with canon, they have been chronologically spliced into Darth Plagueis. The interesting thing is that the canon novel “Tarkin” (also by James Luceno) makes direct references to the events of Cloak of Deception, making its inclusion even more valid. Dialogue additions have been added carefully and with discretion to avoid this being fanfiction and keep the edits invisible. The result is a seamless (very long) epic about the years leading up to the Prequels. If you haven’t read the original novel or read it years ago, I think it would be incredibly difficult to spot where the book has been edited.
NOTE: There is still one contradiction to canon. Veruna’s status as a immediate predecessor to Padme is retained. This is because multiple canon sources differ on this. The Queen’s Peril books describe two Queens ruling immediately before Padme. Tarkin and canon reference books describe Veruna’s term as identical to Legends. The latter canon explanation has been chosen. References to EU Old Republic content have also been kept. Until they do KOTOR content, this won’t be contradicted in any case.
Creating fan edits of novels seems like a really good idea to me! This way we can not only create Canon versions of the Legends books, but also Legends versions of the Canon books. Also we can take the Legends books that contain references to TCW and remove these references, so that these books can fit with the pre-Filoni and pre-TCW lore. For example, we can take the Darth Plagueis novel and modify it, eliminating all references to the TCW lore (Darth Maul born on Dathomir etc).
Agreed. I already see a few folks taking a stab at the TROS novelization. A Darth Plagueis canon edit would be very cool too, as there are only a few contradictions (Dooku leaving the order and Maul’s mother).
To everyone else, the purpose of this novel edit was to bring Labyrinth of Evil into canon continuity. However, it seems that it will be retconned by the upcoming novel “Brotherhood,” which will feature its own version of the Cato Nemodia incident. This novel edit will now be better for those that keep Siege of Mandalore in their Legends timeline and want it to coexist with Labyrinth. That was actually the initial intent and is also why references to the Republic comics and other Legends content is kept in the edit.
Would love to see this. Planning a marathon with Rekindled and Ascendant.
Currently on chapter 36. So far the additional editing is very seamless. I have some notes on what I feel can be approved on.
I’ve noticed that Maul is still considered to be dead. Unsure if this was intentional or forgotten to be changed in the edit.
I think it would be helpful to have a chapter heading between the chapters before and after the events of the ‘Battle of Nelvaan’ for the reader to know when to stop and continue.
Thanks for the feedback. I thought I’d removed the Maul references, but evidently not. The Nelvaan thing is good feedback. There is also a formatting error in the last chapter or so that I just caught.
Very cool. Wonder how it will feel as a movie since the show is so episodic
That’s a good point. I think the quality of a individual edit would be more important than adding everything that could fit. Will you be revisiting Rebels beyond the finale supercut? Does seem like that one is a lot harder than Clone Wars to work with. I’ve thought about how different arcs could be combined, but a straight edit seems incredibly difficult considering the episodic style
Ah that makes sense
Thanks for your feedback! I will look at those ending transitions!
What did you mean about the placement of the Smaug intro? What do you think it needs in order to work?
In the original film, it felt like the Smaug intro was a good way to reacquaint viewers about the main conflict after the break between films. It also serves as a good segway into the rest of the movie. The Original Two Film Structure also used this intro the same way. It’s almost like a filmed intermission. In a TV edit, it feels a bit superfluous imo. We’re in a immediate conflict at the end of one episode and suddenly there’s a random introduction where there doesn’t need to be one. I think it’ll be challenging to place this appropriately in a TV edit. Maybe the start of the last episode could be another place? We have a short pre-credits sequence showing how this journey started before transitioning to how it ended. I don’t know. These are just my thoughts. Maybe other folks won’t have any problems with the flashback. It’s a small thing anyway.
I really enjoyed these. The trims to the Original Two Film Structure edit were creative. My only problem was that many of the episode endings felt very abrupt. I know this would be difficult, since they weren’t meant as episode endings. Maybe a slower fade to black would make it work. Right now, it feels like I’m pausing the movie rather than watching a complete TV episode. The placement of the Desolation of Smaug intro also seems a bit off in this edit.
That sounds great. It’ll be nice to have most of the show in film form. Bad Batch seems to be CW S8, so I guess there’ll be stuff to work with there as well.
I’m not sure I understand. Epub is just a file format. It’s not a program. Should work on nearly every device. If you’d like a pdf, just Google epub to pdf and you can use browser convertors. If I make future versions of this, I’ll add a PDF copy as well.
The restructuring really does have a great impact. It’s so seamless too. My first viewing of Force Awakens in years was with this edit and I honestly thought most edits were present in the original version. Taking a glance at the changelist afterwards was incredibly surprising.
And yeah, I also wouldn’t mind more TROS references/foreshadowing in a future edit. I think anything that makes this trilogy feel like one consistent story would be beneficial.
The restructuring really does have a great impact. It’s so seamless too. My first viewing of Force Awakens in years was with this edit and I honestly thought most edits were present in the original version. Taking a glance at the changelist afterwards was incredibly surprising.
And yeah, I also wouldn’t mind more TROS references/foreshadowing in a future edit. I think anything that makes this trilogy feel like one consistent story would be beneficial.
I hadn’t even thought about editing canon novels to fix continuity issues. That’s a good idea.
You could even edit the ST novelizations to increase Palpatine foreshadowing and make them flow nicely. There’s a bit more freedom with what you can do with text when compared to just using existing film footage.