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#1365506
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

Cinefy said:

I’ve isolated Ian Mcdirmids Palpatine dialogue

V2 Test:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPdX9HVX-go&feature=youtu.be

I’ve made it so as Kylo enters, Hux and Pryde abruptly look in his direction, dialogue is isolated can send the message without music and hologram sounds through if needed.

Wow, dude, that looks incredible 😮 good job!

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#1364700
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

szopman said:

Burbin said:

szopman said:

Burbin said:

Hal 9000 said:

And the PT and OT each have a movie with no capital letters in their crawl. Same goes for my edits of them.

Burbin said:

Fair enough, it works either way.

I’ve been working on the subtitles and I gotta say, it still feels off to not have the words “First Order” and “Resistance” be capitalized on the crawl, since they were on both TFA & TLJ. On TFA “FIRST ORDER”, “NEW REPUBLIC” & “RESISTANCE” are capitalized. On TLJ, since the republic is gone, it’s only “FIRST ORDER” & “RESISTANCE”. Then TRoS goes waaay too far, capitalizing “EMPEROR PALPATINE”, “GENERAL LEIA ORGANA”, “REY”, “FIRST ORDER” & “KYLO REN”.

But it would make sense to go back to the way it is in the previous two, it would feel more cohesive, specially since they would work really well with the current crawl: “The tyrannical FIRST ORDER has retaliated” & “to unite the disparate worlds in the name of RESISTANCE.” I think it would be better to keep it consistent amongst this trilogy, rather than looking for a pattern from the previous films.

On a different note, I also think it feels wrong to name drop Mustafar on the crawl, since it only appears for two minutes and is mostly irrelevant to the main plot. The scene is meant to imply Kylo has been scouring the galaxy for a way to reach Exegol. Some previous unseen search (across however many planets) has lead him to the wayfinder on Mustafar. Which is just another stop on his quest for Exegol. Similar to how Rey’s quest leads her to Pasaana, Kijimi & Endor. The way the crawl is right now it sounds like Kylo only went to Mustafar, the original crawl’s description of Kylo “raging in search” made it more clear he was on a larger quest than just a one-two stop.

We all wish Mustafar had more screen time, and there were several attempts to extend the sequence. As it stands right now it works well enough as a small cameo (it would be great to get Fortress Vader in the background, to make it clear it is THE lava planet), but it doesn’t make sense to put it in the crawl, given how it’s really not important.

These two points would really help the crawl feel legit I think.

Can you send them to me once they are finished? I wanted to do Polish and Spanish translations 😉

I’m working off of the latest workprint so they’ll need to be resynced once further changes are added in. When the final sync is done I’ll send them to Hal and hopefully he can add them to his Google Drive. 😃

Hm, So since You do the Spanish version, I can do the Portugues one then. If I have Time, I can even play a Little bit and do European and BR versions 😉

@Hal
Could I have the link to the workprint? Maybe I d find some Time to watch it 😃

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#1364699
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

Burbin said:

szopman said:

Burbin said:

Hal 9000 said:

And the PT and OT each have a movie with no capital letters in their crawl. Same goes for my edits of them.

Burbin said:

Fair enough, it works either way.

I’ve been working on the subtitles and I gotta say, it still feels off to not have the words “First Order” and “Resistance” be capitalized on the crawl, since they were on both TFA & TLJ. On TFA “FIRST ORDER”, “NEW REPUBLIC” & “RESISTANCE” are capitalized. On TLJ, since the republic is gone, it’s only “FIRST ORDER” & “RESISTANCE”. Then TRoS goes waaay too far, capitalizing “EMPEROR PALPATINE”, “GENERAL LEIA ORGANA”, “REY”, “FIRST ORDER” & “KYLO REN”.

But it would make sense to go back to the way it is in the previous two, it would feel more cohesive, specially since they would work really well with the current crawl: “The tyrannical FIRST ORDER has retaliated” & “to unite the disparate worlds in the name of RESISTANCE.” I think it would be better to keep it consistent amongst this trilogy, rather than looking for a pattern from the previous films.

On a different note, I also think it feels wrong to name drop Mustafar on the crawl, since it only appears for two minutes and is mostly irrelevant to the main plot. The scene is meant to imply Kylo has been scouring the galaxy for a way to reach Exegol. Some previous unseen search (across however many planets) has lead him to the wayfinder on Mustafar. Which is just another stop on his quest for Exegol. Similar to how Rey’s quest leads her to Pasaana, Kijimi & Endor. The way the crawl is right now it sounds like Kylo only went to Mustafar, the original crawl’s description of Kylo “raging in search” made it more clear he was on a larger quest than just a one-two stop.

We all wish Mustafar had more screen time, and there were several attempts to extend the sequence. As it stands right now it works well enough as a small cameo (it would be great to get Fortress Vader in the background, to make it clear it is THE lava planet), but it doesn’t make sense to put it in the crawl, given how it’s really not important.

These two points would really help the crawl feel legit I think.

Can you send them to me once they are finished? I wanted to do Polish and Spanish translations 😉

I’m working off of the latest workprint so they’ll need to be resynced once further changes are added in. When the final sync is done I’ll send them to Hal and hopefully he can add them to his Google Drive. 😃

Hm, So since You do the Spanish version, I can do the Portugues one then. If I have Time, I can even play a Little bit and do European and BR versions 😉

Post
#1364691
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

Burbin said:

Hal 9000 said:

And the PT and OT each have a movie with no capital letters in their crawl. Same goes for my edits of them.

Burbin said:

Fair enough, it works either way.

I’ve been working on the subtitles and I gotta say, it still feels off to not have the words “First Order” and “Resistance” be capitalized on the crawl, since they were on both TFA & TLJ. On TFA “FIRST ORDER”, “NEW REPUBLIC” & “RESISTANCE” are capitalized. On TLJ, since the republic is gone, it’s only “FIRST ORDER” & “RESISTANCE”. Then TRoS goes waaay too far, capitalizing “EMPEROR PALPATINE”, “GENERAL LEIA ORGANA”, “REY”, “FIRST ORDER” & “KYLO REN”.

But it would make sense to go back to the way it is in the previous two, it would feel more cohesive, specially since they would work really well with the current crawl: “The tyrannical FIRST ORDER has retaliated” & “to unite the disparate worlds in the name of RESISTANCE.” I think it would be better to keep it consistent amongst this trilogy, rather than looking for a pattern from the previous films.

On a different note, I also think it feels wrong to name drop Mustafar on the crawl, since it only appears for two minutes and is mostly irrelevant to the main plot. The scene is meant to imply Kylo has been scouring the galaxy for a way to reach Exegol. Some previous unseen search (across however many planets) has lead him to the wayfinder on Mustafar. Which is just another stop on his quest for Exegol. Similar to how Rey’s quest leads her to Pasaana, Kijimi & Endor. The way the crawl is right now it sounds like Kylo only went to Mustafar, the original crawl’s description of Kylo “raging in search” made it more clear he was on a larger quest than just a one-two stop.

We all wish Mustafar had more screen time, and there were several attempts to extend the sequence. As it stands right now it works well enough as a small cameo (it would be great to get Fortress Vader in the background, to make it clear it is THE lava planet), but it doesn’t make sense to put it in the crawl, given how it’s really not important.

These two points would really help the crawl feel legit I think.

Can you send them to me once they are finished? I wanted to do Polish and Spanish translations 😉

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#1364322
Topic
The Mandalorian Episode I: The whole season as a classical Star Wars movie (WIP)
Time

JakeRyan17 said:

szopman said:

JakeRyan17 said:

I still would wait to mention the New Republic until the second paragraph. The Imperial Remnant is the prime antagonist, and The Mandalorian is the protagonist. They are who should be in the first and third paragraph, with other elements of the setting between. The New Republic is too anecdotal to the story, even with the whole season. I think you should, like story does, kinda brush off the New Republic as insignificant.

Exactly. We dont need to exain too much the situation in the Galaxy in the opening crawl.

I think the state of the galaxy is necessary, but the focus should be more on establishing the imperial remnant, explaining why no one else is around, then introduce the bounty hunters and specifically the Mandalorian.

Couldnt agree more 😉

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#1364302
Topic
The Mandalorian Episode I: The whole season as a classical Star Wars movie (WIP)
Time

JakeRyan17 said:

I still would wait to mention the New Republic until the second paragraph. The Imperial Remnant is the prime antagonist, and The Mandalorian is the protagonist. They are who should be in the first and third paragraph, with other elements of the setting between. The New Republic is too anecdotal to the story, even with the whole season. I think you should, like story does, kinda brush off the New Republic as insignificant.

Exactly. We dont need to exain too much the situation in the Galaxy in the opening crawl.

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#1364191
Topic
The Mandalorian Episode I: The whole season as a classical Star Wars movie (WIP)
Time

JakeRyan17 said:

Or:

Following the death of EMPEROR PALPATINE at the Battle of Endor, a power vacuum has plunged the galaxy into chaos. The IMPERIAL REMNANT have become war lords ruling over the splintered galaxy.

The newly-formed GALACTIC REPUBLIC has failed to bring any but the core systems to order, leaving the rest of the galaxy without hope of justice. Many have turned to BOUNTY HUNTERS to enforce being about order to the Outer Rim.

Commissioned by THE GUILD, bounty hunters are given an age and tracking beacons to the chain codes of targets. With the promise of a vast reward, a lone MANDALORIAN approaches the last known location of his prey…

Too many capital letters for me but in general I like it 😉

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#1362892
Topic
The Mandalorian Episode I: The whole season as a classical Star Wars movie (WIP)
Time

Broom Kid said:

Hal 9000 said:

FWIW, I’d recommend the Rogue One style opening. ALTAIAGFFA card, then cut to an opening shot. I don’t imagine backstory or exposition via text would be any more useful for a movie adaptation than it was(n’t) for the original show.

This is the thinking I had too, you just summed it up much more succinctly. Even with the way it’s edited currently, I don’t think a crawl actually adds anything that can’t be picked up almost immediately through context as the story unfolds. It’s actually more engrossing that way.

(FWIW I don’t know that the most recent cut that makes the crawl “necessary” is itself, necessary. I think the previous version of the edit with all that stuff intact worked better)

Also, on a technical level: The title treatment with the Mandalorian logo as the meat in the Star Wars sandwich looks very off, and the font/text of the crawl itself isn’t right

+1

@Smudger, i think this solution worked So well in your TCW fanedits because the logo looked much more “Star Wars” (we basically received the same kind of logo in RO).

The Mandalorian one here seems a Little bit off to me.

In my opinion, the Best solution would be using a classic SW logo as in the movies, omit the Episode, and, since u dont want “the Mandalorian” in the title, Just use the title you came up with. It Will look like a classic SW movie. I have no idea how its done, but since you already did EVII version of opening crawl, I imagine it would be easy to Just remove Episode VII and leave it as an independent SW film.

Cant wait to See what you ll come up with 😉 Your TCW Episode I is still my head Canon version (and the only watchable one Id Say) of the 2008 TCW movie.

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#1362688
Topic
The Mandalorian Episode I: The whole season as a classical Star Wars movie (WIP)
Time

smudger9 said:

Broom Kid said:

I think at this point, considering how well liked Rogue One is (and to a lesser degree, Solo) the argument can be made that “The Theatrical Star Wars Experience” can just cold-open after “A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Away…” now. Maybe it couldn’t have done that before, but it’s fairly accepted now, and honestly - it probably just works better here.

I’d suggest just cutting the crawl entirely. You don’t need it for a Star Wars movie to still feel like a Star Wars movie.

Solo also had an opening crawl. For me it’s a crucial part of a Star Wars theatrical experience. In terms of the font colour. I’ll be producing 2 versions… the pale Mando version and a classical yellow Star Wars version.

oh, sorry, I thought the yellow one is only for Episode VII version 😉

About Solo, there was a kind of opening crawl there, but not the classic one. Actually, I think it would work veeery well in the Mandalorian. And It would Save you a lot of work actually 😄

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#1359046
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

Hal 9000 said:

Yeah, I’m not changing the title for this one. It’s not needed; it’s supposed to make you wonder what it means, at least does something to make Palpatine’s line “she is not who you think she is” not be completely obvious, and ties into the ending.

Since Im plannIng to do PL subtitles once the ENG once come out, can I change the PL title? 😄 in Polish, the title was terrible. Its literaly, more or less, “Skywalker. Revival” (/Skywalker. Ressurrection"). That Doesnt even sound like a SW title at all.

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#1350991
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

Hal 9000 said:

Wow, that’s incredible. I’ll sit tight, then! Makes me a little nervous since I like the Mustafar opening and grabbing Vader’s Wayfinder, but that’s an interesting idea…

Well, the Mustafar opening is Just an awesome scene, but both possibilities look great. Maybe you would consider realeasing versions of the film with two different openings?

Or maybe the scene on the Mustafar could be somehow reused as a flashback or something? I know its not crucial to the film, but its Just Such a badass scene 😉

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#1350979
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
Time

idir_hh said:

“The First Order was just the beginning… I will give you so much more.”

“You’ll Die first.”

“I have died before… Kill me, and my spirit will pass into you as all the Sith live in ME(face reveal).”

Nice.

There could still be a place to insert the line “More than a clone less than a man.”

Maybe over the shot of Palps’ test tube Clones or after Kylo ignites the saber to his face.

Hell, thats brilliant 😉

I was So devastated when I left the Cinema in December, but all those amazing work and ideas in this project make me believe I can actually enjoy the last Episode of the saga. Its incredible how Creative and capable you guys are.

Just some random ideas:
-anyone considered using some shots of Boba Fett or Mandalorians from “the Mandalorian” Just to make it even more fanservice epic scene? 😉 its probable they still live by the Time of those events.
-maybe some additional audio from Star Wars audio dramas? There are plenty of that there, like Xwing pilot ls standing by etc. Maybe even some additional dialogue from the Emperor (though I know Nick Jameson Doesnt sound So much as Ian)