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#36685
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Whats your dream DVD?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/36685/action/topic#36685
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Originally posted by: Bossk
Cloak and Dagger starred Henry Thomas.

BTW, there is a rumor that THX1138 will be released R1 sometime in 2004. Not specific, I admit. But it's something to look forward to.

Yeah, it's not a rumour. Here's a quote from Warner's themselves last night.
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<warnerbros> Re THX 1138 will be a director's cut with never-before-seen
footage.

- THX-1138: 2-Disc SE (1971) [September; cross-promote w/ Star Wars]
[Digital Bits]Here's a bit of info from industry sources that's likely to get the undies of some fans all in a bunch. Word is that George Lucas' THX-1138, which is currently being prepared for DVD release later in 2004 by Lucasfilm and Warner Bros, is going to feature more than 100 new visual effects shots. Look for digitally-enhanced skylines and other additions and alterations.

So it's another Lucas special edition to tie in with the SW DVDs. Can't say I'm really looking forward to this one.

I love Cloak and Dagger with Henry Thomas, fun stuff. Not so fond of Explorers, but I can't wait for D.A.R.Y.L on DVD. Great movie, something that A.I could only aspire too.

And still no Brisco County Jr. DVD, dagnabbit!

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#36602
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Whats your dream DVD?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/36602/action/topic#36602
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Originally posted by: Bossk
Was The Monster Squad the one with the line, "woah, the Wolfman's got nards!"


You best Bossk! There are ton of great lines and fun moments throughout the film (blowing up the wolfman, the fat kid taking on Dracula's brides, a friendly Frankenstein). A lot of stuff (including slayers) like the style and humour seemed to have been lifted from this movie for Joss Wheddon's Buffy mythos.
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#36354
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George Lucas no longer cares
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/36354/action/topic#36354
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You're welcome Warbler. Always glad to share the love... as it were ... heh, heh, heh.

Harrumph, in any case it's completely different from Spaceballs. Spaceballs is a real movie for one thing, and the Holiday special is a variety musical program.

Brooks at his best is a genious, and even though Spaceballs is far from his best, I hope it gets a better release on DVD. I can't wait for the Blazing Saddles Special Edition later this year!
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#36162
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George Lucas no longer cares
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/36162/action/topic#36162
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
I have the holiday special.... talk about your pieces of crap!
however i think i enjoyed it more than the prequels!!

I can't agree more. If you're a fan of bizarre, freaky, funny stuff, then you gotta see this for yourself. I mean, talk about a camp classic! And that sing along with Princess Leia at the end always brings a tear to my eye.

For everyone else, it also introduces Boba Fett for the first time.
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[Anybody know where I could get hold of a copy?] No where.

And Jimbo, I hate to disagree with you again but you're wrong. If you and Warbler really, really, and I mean really wanna see it maybe you'll find it here (albeit in lo-res).
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#36160
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Whats your dream DVD?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/36160/action/topic#36160
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
lol
im still confused on how John originally came to be born...
like the "real" time he was actually born...
your saying that Klye existed even before that?


In a word ... yes.

When John was conceived, his father Kyle Reese was always a man from the future, who technically had not been born yet. If you look at the story from Kyle's point of view its easier. All you do is get born, be raised in a time of machine apocalypse, grow up, fight the machines, go back in time/or if you prefer, go to another place, meet Sarah, fall in love, father a child and give up your life for your loved one(s). You still had a pretty good straight forward life.

The complete circle theory is a logic puzzle. It's not possible, It's a logic theory, not an actual time travel theory, kinda like the first Back to the Future.
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#36124
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Whats your dream DVD?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/36124/action/topic#36124
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Yeah this is a classic Sci-fi staple dating back to the 40s and further even. When the story was first told in the old SF Weird pulps, the main idea was to play with science and its dark side (what with the atomic age and all).

The simplest version has a young scientist being visited by an old man from the future. The old man has a dying time machine and needs the young scientist's help in repairing it. This he does, but before the old man takes off, the scientist (excited by a real-life time machine) tries to take the blueprints for it. The old man stops him, but only manages to grab half as he goes back (presumably) to the future. The young scientist, left with only half of the plans dedicates the rest of his life to accomplish time travel, and with half of the amazing technology in hand he feels confident he will achieve it. Fast forward, the scientist who is no longer young, is very old, but is about to complete his time machine. He tries it out, and it works! But something goes wrong, he is too old to fix it now and the only person who is smart enough to help him is a younger version of himself. He visits his young self and together they repair the machine. The old man is about to take off when his young self tries to take the blueprints for the time machine. His young self manages to grab half as the old man zips back to the future. The old man now realizes that the old man he saw from the future when he was younger was himself. Checking the old half blueprint he grabbed from back them perfectly matches the rip in the half he is left with now. But how can that be? Where did the technology from the time-travel come from? Where did the idea for time-travel come from? Not from himself, it was the old guy and the old guy's technology that did it. But he is the old guy!

Basically, if you think about logically, the story is impossible. It has no beginning and no end. That is what makes it a logical paradox. The circular time-travel theory is fun, but has no bearing on reality as its basic premise is to viloate and cicumvent cause and effect.

T2 is a whole other story. It follows the branching Time-travel theory or multiple Time-line history theory. In T2, you can go back in time and mess with everything as this will change the future and create a new branch in history, meaning history would have originally went one way, but because you changed it, it will now go another way. Or with multiple Time-lines, every change to history you make creates another time line and that is the one you are currently in (the other older time-line still exists, but you're not in it anymore. With this theory rather than changing history around you, it is you moving from one time-line to the next).

With T3, ehh. T3 was mostly a comedy. It doesn't take the sci-fi stuff seriously.
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#35728
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Why doesn't Lucus just release both versions?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/35728/action/topic#35728
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I believe that I've already illustrated my point (thanks for understanding Sifo-Dyas).

I never said I had a complaint with every change, I said that the changes in the SE made the films worse. Be it many bad changes or even just one significant change, if it has a damaging effect on the overall film then even an infinite number of small improvements cannot and do not balance that out.

If you like most of the changes in the SE, that's fine. To me, the SE are lesser films. Failing to understand, or being unable to see things from another point of view is simply unfortunate, but being obstinate about it won't help you. I enjoy discussing different views on films, but I certainly don't see any point in continuing this exercise as you seem to have your mind set no matter what, so I would recommend that you just drop it.

To each his own.
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#35606
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Why doesn't Lucus just release both versions?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/35606/action/topic#35606
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Give you a break?

You asked, I answered.

If you disagree with me, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. That you don't seem to understand the differences or the reasons for it is too bad though and I can't help you there. Perhaps opening up your horizons a little in the future will help.

In any case, I agree with you that best version of the classic Star Wars trilogy should certainly be made available to people, and that is clearly the original version
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#35546
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Why doesn't Lucus just release both versions?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/35546/action/topic#35546
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This isn't some mathematical formula, where the SE has x amount of good changes and y amount of bad changes and therefore if the x was more than y then somehow the SE is a better movie.

By that logic if there were equal amounts of both good x and bad y in the SE then the SE would somehow be equivalent to the original OT. Taking it further perhaps Lucas could insanely fugger up the OT even more with adding more Jar Jar, or changing Luke and Leia never kissing (they're brother and sister!) or Luke never losing his hand and gets a good spanking from his dad instead or just whatever, and as long as he added way more super-duper improved CGI to every frame of film and that such 'improvements' outnumbered the 'bad' changes than would the newer SE/AE/UE versions be better?

Of course not. Films, movies, whatever are art. When it comes to art it simply either works or it doesn't. It is in fact the littlest, or subtlest changes or nuances that makes something from simply okay or good, to great. Not all changes are equal. Just compare the two different versions of Brazil from a thought-provoking cynical ending to a 180 happy ending. No different than cutting/missing the last minute of Night of the Living Dead or 12 Monkeys where one might assume a happing ending when it is clearly not. Hitchcock removed that last minute of Vertigo that would have utterly transformed the dark despair to a simple whodunnit.

You may argue that the changes in the SE are not as signficant as adding a happy ending to Casablanca, or the original sad break-up endings to When Harry Met Sally or Pretty Woman. And perhaps they are not, it's certainly arguable. I however argue that are changes are significant and greatly alter the mood, flow, and most importantly character of the films. Adding Jabba isn't just bad CGI and acting (which it is) but it also takes away from the first time Luke (and the audience) even sees the immense and impressive full scale Falcon. It's just breathtaking. And that's why it's funny when Luke calls it a pile of junk, unlike the audience as a character in the Star Wars universe he of course would be used to space ships. The Luke scream in TESB is just a tiny audio change and yet it utterly alters Lukes character. From a poor and rash Jedi student who wouldn't listen to Yoda or Obi-Wan, to being defeated by Darth Vader and given the ultimate choice, Luke finally does the right thing and chooses against the darkside (something his father clearly failed to do) even at the cost of possibly his own life. But his tragic, honourable, yet deeply calm and thoughtful choice becomes a comical scream for survival, and what was a great dramatic moment in TESB, something that really elevated the film becomes a blah pointless annoyance, Luke might as well have slipped and fell off.

These are just a few examples. Maybe they are small changes, but they are SIGNIFICANT changes. As it is there a few small, but fatally significant changes that make the SE poorer films in comparison. Different, interesting in their own way even, but poorer. And the fact is, if they weren't significant, then Lucas himself wouldn't have done them. That's why George should release both versions.
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#35457
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Why doesn't Lucus just release both versions?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/35457/action/topic#35457
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Jimbo, that the SE changes are "mostly for the better" is your opinion and your welcome to it, just as I feel the changes are mostly for the worse is my opinion, and as a result the original OT are far better films.

Nonetheless, I embrace all versions of Star Wars and would recommend to Lucas that he do the same which is the point of the topic title of this thread.
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#35421
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Read these two articles please...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/35421/action/topic#35421
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Welcome anaphalaxis.

In light of your comments I hope you will join us in writing Lucas about preserving the original OT and making it available to the public. We must remind him of the value of historical art and culture. We don't bury our art history or replace it with something new, we treasure our history. We study it and learn from its natural growth, its changes from era to era. The original Star Wars trilogy is that art. It must be cherished and valued.
We have to convince him that there is artistic and creative value in preserving the originals for everyone now, and for future generations to see and learn from. I think that is something that everyone, including George might agree with.

George Lucas
c/o Lucasfilm Ltd.
P.O. Box 2009
San Rafael, CA 94912
U.S.A.

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Jimbo, puppets have been delighting audiences from around the world for generations, and even Yoda was a puppet when everyone fell in love with him.

CGI is only now beginning to do what puppetry has successfully done and won muliple awards for for decades. That is to breathe life into fantastic creatures and simply make you believe.

If you prefer CGI that's fine, its simply a different form of art, but they don't "always look better than puppets" and in fact CGI has become so common place that no ever believes they are real anyway, especially if they are done poorly versus being done well (take Jar Jar versus Golem).



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#35369
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It's official! the 2004 OT DVD release will be the Special Editions :(
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/35369/action/topic#35369
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Originally posted by: Luke30
Do you think the rumored changes to the star wars trilogy is going to happen yes or no? Persionly I hope these changes don't happen.

When the TPM was originally announced for VHS home video, McCallum said Lucas was too busy to release Star Wars on DVD because he was too busy with the production of the PT, and that after Ep3 came out he would have something "really special" ready for the OT. September's SE release is not going to be it, it's just a stop gap. The "really special" edition AKA Archive Edition will probably be ready for 2007, SW 30th Anniversary.
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#35217
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GENERAL GRIEVOUS confirmed
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/35217/action/topic#35217
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I just don't like the PT enough to consider any of them as interesting villains. Although I admit that DM had an intriguing, if non-Star Wars look.

Actually a friend of mine is convincing me finally watch TPM and AOTC again, but in a foreign language (Cantonese). He says it's far more entertaining this way. I suppose you get to imagine how good the story could be yourself this way, and now I'm curious what voice DM might have in this version.
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#35216
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Why doesn't Lucus just release both versions?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/35216/action/topic#35216
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Originally posted by: Bossk
The thing that kills me about my mom getting rid of it all is that, even if it was busted, she always would send broken toys back to Kenner who were more than happy to replace them with new toys. Kenner was incredible in terms of customer service (until Hasbro bought them out, that is). So I don't understand why she wouldn't have just sifted through for broken stuff and sent it back.


Holy crap, I didn't know Kenner did that! I've never heard anyone tell me about them replacing broken toys. Considering the popularity and extreme play-value of SW figures and vehicles (not a single SW toy of mine from back then survived unscathed) they would have went bankrupt if everyone had their broken toys replaced though I suppose. Bummer.
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I tease her by saying that the money I could've earned from selling those toys would have financed a very posh retirement community. Now she gets a cardboard box.

Geez, this for the woman who pulled you out of school to just to catch the first showing of ROTJ? For shame.
At least give her a plastic bag in case it rains.