suntech

Wow I have only seen the Cinerama print on the original run.

I would be very leery of this content. A lot of this footage has been edited and modified in the last 30 to 40 years. With the advent of home video recording in the early 1980’s I have noticed that there is a revisionist history of sorts.
The easiest example I can point to is the footage of the casket being unloaded from Air Force One at the return to Washington DC. Original footage showed that as the casket is being unloaded there was a helicopter taking off behind Air force One. I saw it many times and there is a photo of that scene either in David Lifton’s Book Best evidence or Bonar Menninger’s book Mortal Error. Last year I saw the the CBS rebroadcasts as they were being replayed on various cable and satellite channels and I was surprised to see that the helicopter was no longer in the shot. Now I being old enough to have seen the original broadcasts and many rebroadcast in the 60’s 70’s and early 1980’s , I know that that Helicopter was there. Now it’s like it never existed. Why is it gone? Because some conspiracy theorists claim that JFK’s body was in body bag and on that Helicopter and not in the casket. What gives the theory credence was recorded time of JFK’s autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital as noted by two FBI agents present. The agents present recorded the time in their note and The Autopsy was started before the casket had arrived at Bethesda. Just one of many odd things about that day that never added up.

I showed my wife the photos of your "moving day" and said "See, it could be worse"   

I have it, if you need it.

Did you try amazon? I've gotten discs from them and the shipping wasn't that bad.

Looks like we get another chance Early Tuesday morning or Late Monday night depending on your time zone.

as I was trying to say with out coming right out ,it is on the spleen, 1080p Theatrical Cut.

Is anyone interested in making a custom DVD or BluRay of the The Warriors (1979)Theatrical Cut in HD? The original DVD is OOP replaced by the horrid Directors Cut which ruined the pacing, altered the dialog and ruined the Soundtrack. The official BluRay is has only the DC.

Itunes has the 1080p HD Theatrical Cut and it is up at the human organ site. This is something I would like to do , but I have no experience in creating BluRay or Hybrid Bluray discs. I am willing to attempt it, anyone willing to help or collaborate?

Thanks

It is only available if I have I have a subscriber DVR,  which I don"t. I own my DVR and it is not available for download or streaming .                Sorry

Just my luck the power went out at 12:20 AM and it lasted 3 hours.  Did anybody else capture it? 

RU.08 said:

towne32 said:

RU.08 said:

Just a note - my encode finished and it looks really good. A huge improvement over the original encode at the same file-size (about 3.5GB). What a difference the grain makes! I'll probably just use this version for my AVCHD... I don't think this needs scratch/dirt/damage removal - except for a a handful of scenes mostly involving the end and start of the reels - and frankly I'd rather leave in the residual dirt as it doesn't really detract from the experience at all.

 Sounds nice. Still waiting to see what The Team cooks up, as far as scratches/dirt go. But I agree that it's in decent shape already compared to many films.

I actually uploaded it almost right after leaving that post. You can find it on Demonoid/AMPSdeux.

You did a good job. It plays  well on my Samsung Blu ray player. Thanks

RossDaBoss said:

I'm happy to answer your question, but you need too explain what exactly you want an example of?

 Sorry I got busy and everyone jumped in. An example of something from  The Die Hard 2 re-dub that is comedy gold. 

I will record it but it will be an SD recording on to my Magnavox DVR Copied to DVD 

RossDaBoss said:

I'm mainly just interested in the preserving the censored audio so that they can be added as a bonus audio track to the retail DVD / Bluray. They are usually unintentionally funny and I like how creative TV networks were at dubbing out the swear words. The Die Hard 2 re-dub is comedy gold.

 Example Please?

yes if you have the right equipment

kaosjm said:

I'm watching the bluray of 2001 at the moment and wanted to add that the scene where Dave and his colleague go to replace the "alpha echo 35 unit" that HAL states is failing Dave is walking through a tunnel very briefly. This happens around 1:12:15 in to the movie and the whites were obviously yellow in the film print whereas in the bluray they are more of a white and grey tone.

I am noticing very many color timing deficiencies between the film and bluray where the film is much darker, more yellow, and the bluray is much more neutral and dull.

The scene where Dr. Floyd is flying towards the base on the moon... the rocks were definitely more brown but the tone was so dark on the rocks that you could barely make it out. I may be new to this game but film definitely seems to be much darker in general and the colors are more saturated and maybe a bit too much at times.

 I read an article a while back, right after George Lucas had paid for or help pay for the refurbishment of the Rafael Theater in Marin. The article was about the new state of the art projection and the quality of the lenses.

 They were showing a revival of Lawrence Of Arabia, the David Lean Classic. The article stated that although the Camera,Film  and Lenses ( Super Panavision 70) that were used to film the movie were of the highest quality, the Lenses that the were available for the projection at the time of the first run of the move  could not faithfully reproduce what was actually captured on the film. When they showed the film  right after the completion of the restoration of the theater, with the newest and highest quality projection lens (THX certified?) they were astonished to be able to see  the individual grains of sand in the hair of Peter O'Toole in one of his close up  desert scenes. My point is this.  What one sees and remembers  when viewing a movie at a theater may not be exactly what is actually supposed to be seen.  The theater's equipment may be out of calibration, the light source may not be of the right specification may be at the end of its useful life and was supposed to be replaced but the projectionist was lazy or the owner wanted one more use out of it to save some money, or the film may have been faded after many showings.Or as in Lawrence of Arabia, the technology at the time was not up to the task.

So all of the work in our preservation efforts here is still highly subjective.  To further clarify my point. Would one complain that in viewing the grains of sand in O'Toole's hair, that it is not the way it was shown back in the theater in its original run?

 Not that I don't appreciate all the work that is done here. I love the fact that hear the original soundtracks and see the original edits. But to a point, I saw 2001 at a Cinerama theater the first week it was out during it's original run.  What I saw then and what I may see now other than any re-editing and remastering of the soundtrack. May be what was there to be seen but could not  due to the limits of the technology at the time.   

Start at page 11 there you will be directed to the place you are looking for.

I think I'll skip the 4K and Jump to the 110 inch  8K UltraWide 3D  TV that doesn't need 3D glasses.     "I must be dreaming" ...  James Bond in  Goldfinger

dwalkerdon23 said:

Well, 4:3 HD projectors do exist, & a plus to having a 4:3 projector is you can always fit an anamorphic lens on the projector to change the aspect ratio to flat 1:85:1, and any CinemaScope ratio, & still be able to watch native 4:3 content ( such as TV shows shot in the 4:3 Aspect Ratio from the 50's to the late 90's (until producers started filming in the 16:9 aspect ratio) without having black bars at the side of the image.

I wish that a manufacturer still made 4:3 HDTV's ( they were made in the late 90's to about 2004-05)

 I almost bought one, It was a Phillips Projection HDTV  4:3 around 2002. I had just replaced my 1989 Pioneer Projection TV with a Phillips projector back in 2001 then the next year I saw what looked to be the Identical set except it was HD, It was open box and I could of gotten it for $400. But I could not bring myself to buy a new TV when mine was working fine. There were many 4:3 HD Projection sets early on and there were some Hi Def CRTs too.  I still prefer CRTs to LCD and Plasma. Pictures were Brighter and sharper. But the some of the new 4K sets are now getting there.

ww12345 said:

suntech said:

I was lucky,  I saw it in Cinerama when I was 16 years old at the Palace Theater in Tampa Fl. I was on my 1st unchaperoned date.   I remember it like it was yesterday.  I would love to see it on a very big screen again.

 Wow... 2001 on a date? I'll admit that I too made a date sit through this movie, but that was in my younger, less wise years... haha

 She and I both enjoyed it because it was "Far Out Man! Really Groovy" and "Real Trip!"  After that date we ended up going steady for a while. A great first date!

I was lucky,  I saw it in Cinerama when I was 16 years old at the Palace Theater in Tampa Fl. I was on my 1st unchaperoned date.   I remember it like it was yesterday.  I would love to see it on a very big screen again.

Glad to help. You're Welcome. 

dvdmike said:

suntech said:

I have it.  If one does a search at a site that it's url is like a cat but spelled different it is available under surround test disk.

 Where? Am I being dense? 

 If all else fails hoist the Jolly Roger its there also. The Ultimate 5.1DD/DTS Surround Test-DVD. 

I have it.  If one does a search at a site that it's url is like a cat but spelled different it is available under surround test disk.

TV's Frink said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I pay for my bandwidth as do those who are looking to download.

Funcha said:

Following that line of reasoning we shouldn't allow any money to go to the manufacturers of the recordable Blu-rays we'll be burning the files to also.

 Neither of these statements are relevant.  There are free alternatives to newsgroups.  And if a project is only made available on newsgroups, then you are forced to pay for it.  No one is forcing you to use recordable blu-rays.

JFTR, I don't care one way or the other.  I have no interest in non-OT preservations.  Just pointing out what should be obvious.

 I pay for internet access, I pay for increased bandwith. I pay for email address and I have had newsgroups ever since I got online. It used to be that the Internet Service Providers would have newsgroup access, they just never made mention of it, Check you may have access  and not know it. But I pay extra for mine to have more allowable download data 

I went on Usenet couldn't find the sky caps. Would some one PM me the exact group?