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You're welcome! Glad you've enjoyed it! 

You catch on pretty quick.

Heres the standard definition final!

i put it up on the original post along with a cutlist!

... currently rendering the final cut.

or errors aside, the second to final cut.

I was tempted to post the rough final I finished weeks ago... but, decided to put in the last bit of work to finally finish this fucker, so you all could have something to enjoy this Christmas.

SG1JOE said:

were is the new link you said you would put up looking forword to this

 

KEEP YOUR PANTS ON DAMNIT.

Heres a rough edit of the ending, im going to figure out an amount of engineer I want to show in the final bits though.

THE ENDING

and heres a super rough cut of the c section/fifield scene.... Of which i hate, and planning on mixing up.

GETITOUTOFMEGETITOUTOFME

Ohh I like that Idea a lot, Bingowings! I have yet to tackle anything from david's head being ripped off, to shaw going to the lifeboat. I dont want to lose any of the tension by cutting vickers' running away from the ship. Also, from the getgo, I wanted my edit to be deacon-less, with all of the other easter egg's and referances, throwing that in there feels like the biggest cock-tease for a sequel.... let alone I can run around the "how's and why's" of it's existance, by simply removing it.

Ill change around a few things, cut a bit.

Sorry for having no updates this past week, ive been working along, having made about the 20th incarnation of the first 20 minutes, but it keeps getting tighter, and ill throw it up in the dropbox in a lower quality (gotta save space) to replace the existing file.

BUT I HAVE A CUT OF THE LAST 17 MINUTES.
(not final, but almost... I noticed one bad effects shot on headless david... two really, but I dont mind the prosthetic head in a bag... it reminds me of the ian holm/ash head prosthetic)

which ill throw up the link... tonight/tomorrow morning.

Hmmm, that's a problem I've run in to... No ending... Just kinda stops

I've been getting swamped with other work, and it looks to continue until the end of the month. I may push the deadline back a few weeks, to not have all of you watch something 90% done in my eyes.

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Bingowings said:

It would make more sense (or rather sense) if the quiet eye was Weyland's dream.

When you make a phone call you don't usually listen to yourself.

Weyland could have intercepted the Yutani interception of the call.

Alternatively Vickers is another sensible candidate for that dream as implies that she is a Yutani stooge and is one of the reasons behind the eventual merger.

Having it as Shaw's dream makes no sense at all.

She would see the camera, not the resulting phone call.

From that train of logic, why do we see young shaw with her father in shaw's theatrical dream? 

Personally, I've always viewed it as a file David's looking up

Woah, Ive realized ive made a lot of changes that youve posted Johnny Ringo! Expecially removing the closeup of holloway's eye, the howling, and trimming/moving the transmission promo.

as for the quiet eye promo, I still dont like the theatrical dream sequence, that and the isle of skye intro for her paint her as a main character; when she actually does very little in the film. plus both give is blunt exposition we will find out later (in blunt expostion form nonetheless "these glyphs all have something in common"/"will it bring your father back?")

Shes more of a catalyst, and her introductions now are her "hopeful hello" in transmission, and the quiet eye promo, both point her her as an ambitious person whos on an even more ambitious journey, And add more character towards her. The Yutani logo and visual gibberish in quiet eye paint this scene as:

A: David is looking into Shaws dreams, with yutani technology, analyzing her recurring dream (due to multiple phone calls similar in nature) of the events prior to launch.

or...

B: David is looking not into her dream, but the application in waylands file on her, as he wouldhave done with everyone else on the ship, with, you guessed it, yutani technology. Making the reveal of David looking into more things like dreams EVEN creepier when its brought up.

I am a cheap bastard and running out of space on my drop box. I may start up a new account to upload the new files.

I will most likely replace the opening 12 minute clip, with a newer opening 20, and replace the opening hour with 2 45 minute ish clips from the middle and end. I like how the ending is coming together, but it still is unsatisfying.

case in point: this film feels like 2/3's of a film still. And that cant be fixed in editing really. But i am impressing myself in how its coming together and am excited to not have to watch prometheus in detail ever again.

i have scoured though footage, looks like Milburn will ALWAYS be an asshat.

also, sorry for the delays, Ive been going back and forth between working and rendering... I guess i can lose the transmission clips. Maybe... An hour and 10 minutes are currently uploading onto the dropbox.

SEE: Some Deleted Scenes!

DONT SEE: Milburn and Fifield's deaths. And some other trimmings too minute to name.

HEAR: some alien/alien 3 soundtrack and mother sounds

DONT HEAR: duh-naaaaa-nananan-na-na-NA-nanaaaaaa

That's interesting. I would go for removing the squid, part of it seems so right... But I can't lose that scene in the medical pod. Also I think the transmission video in small clips could help branch the wayland intro through the David intro. Or even a piece on the end cutting into shaws transmission.

i guess one of my original intents in this edit was to drag out the opening and make them land on the planet later. So far with a longer wayland intro and transmission clips, the Prometheus lands at minute 31, instead of 25. Not so much longer, but undoubtably filled with more information setting the stage. I like the young wayland monologue not only because its the best we could've got out of guy pierce; but because it lets the king have a speech. The David commercial makes you simultaneously be charmed and disgusted at David, allowing the remarks that everyone makes to him not bring human, resonate more.

Plus I like dropbox because if any of you other fan editors out there Want to recycle my edit into one of yours, By all means, download the clips and do some work!

Dropbox is my only option right now, For clips. that and when it's finished I'll put it up as a torrent somewhere As a finished product. 

I know there's a way to use J downloader to breakapart Files into smaller Rar files.... Or I'm making that up and I'm missing something out there... I just have four other fanedits I've never been able to upload to Fanedit.org

I'm going to upload version 2 of the opening and hopefully the first hour tonight. It'll be rough and I haven't taken anything out of the briefing room scene... So maybe as a group we can figure something out.

I hope you know if you contribute anything to this thread before it's done I'll try my best to put a special thanks credit at the end of the video just for all the help that I've gotten from you guys! I appreciate all the feedback check back later tonight for a clip!

Bester said:

Nice work on the soundtrack replacement.

Just out of curiosity, what formats will the edit be available in?

If someone can help me with jdownloader I can try to make a DVD, otherwise I will host a high quality .mp4 somewhere.

it'd be safe to bet that by Halloween, I'll just have an .mp4 up.

Not going to lie, I really like the idea of cutting the briefing scene out. Or at the least, trimming it severely.

I've worked on adding the cgi fifield scene, as well as slipping the deleted scenes towards the end of the film. I'm definitely trying to make film longer, but trying not to sacrifice pacing of the final hour or so.

a new viral video titled "transmission" came out. As well as a longer young wayland speech... I know you all may cry out PADDING!! But hear me out. I have a spot for them in the beginning of the story... Or the ending.

i have another less rough/longer opening that I'll upload soon

But as I've said before, with trimming almost anything is possible, and I'll try out your ideas and post a new clip of the 12 minutes soon and a clip showing some soundtrack replacement tonight.

You guys are in for a treat!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4p1tl22sse1z4y3/maproom%20%282%29.mp4

Since I uploaded that 12 minute clip I've been playing with the young Wayland speech. I took his ending introduction and put it into the beginning, Making the whole thing and on the note of "we are the Gods now". 

Part of me hates how he's directly Referencing something we're going to see within then five minutes, But at the same time showing David watching it and showing wayland referencing it helps solidify that these two are two halves of the same person. 

Or David has been programmed to have the same interests as his creator. 

I don't mean to Sound like I am going against your ideas, You definitely have something there about time gaps and whether that will lose an audience after the first two minutes.... But I think the first time that we see 'Prometheus" in text should be that introduction in space. 

Part of me wants to include the 'arrival of the engineers credit sequence' at the end of the film what do you guys think about that?

yeah this is one of those films that would've benefited from another go through in post production.

As for streamlining though.... Im having a hard time justifying less of shaw's story, but with the help of alternate/deleted/promo scenes I think I'm actually taking away so much of the engineer's story, and screentime.

We'll see how that turns out when I get some rough edits of the whole thing.

if anyone has any ideas, or anything to bring to the table, im all ears.

Well, from the pieces that I have (theatrical cut, promo material, deleted scenes) , I dont think any unanswered questions will change, Im trying hard to nip/tuck out headscratching moments, like the death of the biologist and geologist, and lines like "god does not build in straight lines", "DNA MATCH" and whathaveyou..
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Im not a scientist, but I believe a 90% match woudve been enough, and waking up to find the bio/geologist offline, seems creepier then seeing the wonderful practical/cgi effects of the penis/vagina snake aptly called the 'hammerpede'

my whole goal is to build more tension in the film and make it MORE of a mirror of Alien, then the theatrical edition was.

Basically as an intro to the alien franchise, even with Prometheus' eventual sequel, I wanted this edit to better set up the world run by wayland industries. A world fueled with ego and ambition, and I wanted to re-insert a little bit of AWE into the film.

Theres little to no awe of starting the movie with the engineers, then jumping to Scotland to introduce our main characters.... David, and by proxy Wayland were always our main characters, Shaw is just a true believer who survives. By building a better world and showing that this is a more slow burn sci-fi that gets creepy by minute 45, and action-y by an hour and 15, lets us settle into our seat, and start asking questions later in the film, rather then from the credits sequence.

David's line "remarkably human" now holds some weight to it, and we as an audience hopefully will unravel this film about creator/creation relationships.

Alright, ladies and bromethei, this one is about 99% done… and im setting a release date of this to Christmas.

YOU NEED THE HOLIDAYS TO SHOW TIME IS STILL MOVIN’
 

INTENT

my hopes in this edit are to build up the ego and ambition of Wayland industries through promo material, reinsert deleted scenes to give us more time with these so called “characters”, reinserting score/sound from ‘alien’/‘alien3’ where possible to aesthetically match the soundscapes of those two films.</span></span>
 

WHERE CAN I FIND THIS?

PM me to get a link to the standard def final. 
 

CUTLIST

Added: Alien3 audio to 20th Century Fox logo.
(Now the 1st and last film is this series does so)

Moved: opening credits/scene to the end.
(removes tension, lets us actually have a reveal)

Removed: Isle of Skye opening.

Added: Extended Wayland TED talk promo

Moved: Opening David Vignettes around to reveal him, then the crew, then the ship.

Removed: Shaws Dream Sequence.

Added: Sections of the ‘Transmission’ promo
(Mostly involving crew)

Added: ‘David 8’ promo

Removed: Laurence of Arabia line “… the trick william potter…”
(Now David continues the line from the movie, into the next shot)

Added: ‘Quiet Eye’ Promo

Added: Nostromo noise audio from Alien

Removed: Fifield and Milbounes intro after Milbourne’s forced introduction.
(including the line “…im on here to make money”)

Added: ‘T’is the Season’ deleted scene

Removed: Waylands line “… and he will never have… a soul”

Removed: Waylands now retelling of the line “… the titan prometheus…”
(he introduces the doctors, then leaves the stage)

Removed: Hologram of LV_223
(implying this takes place on LV_426)

Moved: The Prelanding chat with Vickers to after they land.
(also removed David shaking a mixer, and Holloway’s line “…is there some agenda…” )

Removed: Holloways line “god doesnt build in straight lines”

Removed: Fifield’s howl

Added: "Our first Alien’ deleted scene

Added: Soundtrack sections from Alien 3
(Angus Dei)

Removed: Shot of hologram warming up
(removes tension, too similar to the ‘pups’ going down a corridor)

Removed: multiple short shots of the holograms
(removes tension)

Added: Darkness around the Engineer Head stature when the door opens up.

Removed: the majority of the ‘LIFE’ musical theme from the film

Added: Soundtrack sections from Alien
(the alien planet)

Removed: a quick shot of Shaw grabbing on to something after being blown back by the storm.

Added:‘Were not Alone Anymore’ deleted scene

Removed: David talking to Old-Man Wayland

Removed: Line “DNA MATCH”
(Now just Shaws reaction after the two overlay, “it’s us, its everything” still in)

Removed: Sections of Janek’s “theres a ping…” conversation.

Removed: The Bedroom Scene between Shaw and Holloway

Added: Alt. Version ‘Strange Bedfellows’ from the deleted scenes.

Removed: Milbourne and Fifield finding the Hammerpede, and general stupidity

Added: ‘Skin’ deleted scene instead.

Added: Soundtrack sections from Alien 3
(The first attack)

Removed: the musical sting when Holloway looks at his eye
(as well as almost a second cut from the film)

Added: Soundtrack sections from Alien
(Main titles)

Removed: Multiple Shots of the engineer hologram

Added: the majority of the ‘Janek fills Vickers In’ deleted scene
(In between Shaws scene with david, and her waking up/c section)

Moved: Pre-door opening ‘Fifield Attacks’ to before the c section scene

Removed: Original Zombie Fifield

Added: Sleeker Xenomorph-esque ‘Fifield Attacks’ from the deleted scenes
(the majority of it)

Added: Soundtrack sections from Alien 3
(Lullaby Elegy)

Removed: Shaw and Janek’s scene, due to redundancy

Added: Sections of “the engineer speaks” deleted scene

Removed: Shots of Vickers escape pod landing
(not the lifeboat)

Removed: Chance and the other pilot’s last lines about the bet.

Added: Sections of the “final battle” deleted scene
(also added: Sections of Death Dance from Alien3)

Added: Sections of the “Paradise” deleted scene

Added: Soundtrack Sections from Alien
(the landing)

Removed: THE DEACON

Added: ‘the arrival of the engineers’ deleted scene

About 24 minutes CUT

About 42 minutes ADDED

Nicely done! The next shot after the ending should be the destruction of their ship, and this is gold.

So I was watching the Recent "fall of the jedi" trilogy... and a i thought of a couple cuts to rearrange and tighten up the intro... and ill be vague.


you got your intro to episode one, change the text as you may, this cut is only for the intro.

The ship lands in the docking bay, NO OBI WAN AND QUIGON TEA PARTY, no "send da droiiid"

we cut to the tail end of the viceroy/sidious/"queen amadala is young and naive", combined with "shoulda never brought them into this,kill them immediatly", BOOM Ship explodes.

cut to Queen Amadala on naboo, shorthand up till, "can mean only one thing, invasion"

A bunch of droids walk up to a door, "destroy whats left of them" door opens, first time we see lightsabers, NO GAS, and a killer intro for obi wan and qui gon.

hmm having him lost the race as early as possible, how about after the opening crawl starting on Darth Maul landing and releasing the probes.That scene always struck me as a decent, heres-the-bad-guy-opening-scene, like in a new hope.