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#72802
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Lazy, lazy Lucas.
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Originally posted by: Darth Justin
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Originally posted by: starkiller
3. The line from Back to the Future is "My name is Darth Vader. I come from the planet Vulcan."


Actually, ahem...it's:

"My name is Darth Vader. I am an extra-terrestrial from the planet Vulcan."


I better get the family copy of the movie out...I'm forgetting the lines.
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#72695
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Lazy, lazy Lucas.
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1. I never said or suggested Palpatine could.

2. Paraphrasing Admiral Motti:
Well, why not use the Force to find the Rebel base, or the stolen data tapes? I don't know, but what could else could the Force be used for that shows it to be a greater power than the Death Star? Perhaps destroy a star, but that seems like too much.

3. The line from Back to the Future is "My name is Darth Vader. I come from the planet Vulcan."
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#72267
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Lazy, lazy Lucas.
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
How would Vader destroy Naboo?
I viewed it mentally to be similar to what happens to Veridian 3(?) towards the end of Star Trek: Generations.

A massive wave of energy just slams into Naboo, causing it to break apart. Fast enough that no one can get off the planet, but slow enough that the molten core cools as it is exposed to the vacuum of space, essentially creating a massive field of debris.
No massive explosions. An almost peaceful destruction.
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#72113
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Wormie
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Kaiju,

Did you see starwars.com on April Fools a few years ago?? They went retro. Everything was shades of green (to go with the computer screens of the age), they were reviewing one of the Han Solo books, a teaser picture of "a general observing a battle" (Dodonna watching the Battle of Yavin), and there was a poll:
Who should Leia end up with? Luke or Han.

I actually went to every page, and downloaded the entire retro site. Ive got it on my PC at home.
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#72070
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Lazy, lazy Lucas.
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Well, maybe the memory wipe thing was a little much. I was thinking that such a wipe would ensure that people understand why Naboo is never mentioned in 4, 5, or 6.

It was probably 4 years ago that I had that idea. I think what I had written (it was a SW email group at collegeclub.com) was that Obi-wan and Padme start getting close, and it pushes Anakin over the edge. Palpatine tells his 'apprentice' to destroy Naboo. What he doesn't know, is the Padme is ON Naboo when it happens, and that pushes him farther.
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#72044
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NFL
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Originally posted by: Warbler
Well, after next week they will be 3 and 1.

p.s. If you live in Cleveland, why are you a Packers fan?
I lived the first 10 years of my life in...ready the jokes...Oshkosh WI. We moved to Cleveland many years ago, and I never forgot that Packers loyalty.
I lost all loyalty to the Milwaukee Brewers when Robin Yount retired and they changed their logo in the early 90s. I never really had any strong loyalty to the Bucks. I didn't get into basketball until I was here in Cleveland, with the strong Cavaliers teams that only missed the NBA Finals because of legendary #23.
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#72042
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Internets????
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Assuming this is what I think it is, I did a double-take myself when Bush said internets.

But, in his defense, I've heard of a project called Internet2. Its a group of colleges that are attempting to build a super-high-speed connection system between themselves, not unlike the original intent of the Internet. My old college was part of it.
They're site says:
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Internet2 is a consortium being led by 207 universities working in partnership with industry and government to develop and deploy advanced network applications and technologies, accelerating the creation of tomorrow's Internet. Internet2 is recreating the partnership among academia, industry and government that fostered today´s Internet in its infancy. The primary goals of Internet2 are to:
- Create a leading edge network capability for the national research community
- Enable revolutionary Internet applications
- Ensure the rapid transfer of new network services and applications to the broader Internet community.


So, from a certain point of view one could consider there to be multiple internets.
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#71836
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It's official...
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Originally posted by: Warbler
ok I'm done with thread, continue your hate speeches without me.
I'm with Warbler. When this thread started, I was hoping for at least a semi-intelligent discussion of politics. It has since degraded into a religious/political shouting match, where we see who can scream the loudest and most offensive obscenities.

I will not participate in such a match. It is not in my nature.
Now, if you will excuse me, NFL Gamecenter indicates that the Packers are driving down the field to break this 7-7 tie against division leading Detroit.
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#71835
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Lazy, lazy Lucas.
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Originally posted by: Mentasm
It really annoys me that we were denied the films for years for no good reason, only for them to be rushed out because of 'piracy' concerns.
If Lucas wanted to reduce piracy, he probably should/would have released the originals.

He's not stupid. He knows that plenty of people do not like the Special editions. By releasing these DVDs, he almost acknowledges the fact that he will never release the originals, which will drive an increase in piracy of the originals.

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#71664
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Lazy, lazy Lucas.
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1. I noticed that, but I thought maybe I was just listening to it too hard.
2. Well, what was Jucas going to do, rebuild the set and refilm it?? He wasn't going to leave it as it was.
3. No matter what reasons you give, it all boils down to this: Lucas should have kept Bolloch's voice.
4. I always hoped that in EP3, we'd see why Vader says "The power to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force." We learn that HE destroys Naboo in a fit of pure dark-side rage. In addition, this rage strips the memory of the planet from everyone.
That is power.
5. Cannot comment, except to say I don't like the change at all.

Lightsabers:
Horrible mistakes. Especially that last one. Luke's green saber should be in front, since its being blocked by Vader's blade, yet we see the red core of Vader's saber. We should see Luke's core.
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#71649
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It's official...
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Originally posted by: Regicidal_Maniac
As to "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" foreign policy, does anyone ever wonder why America has all these enemies in the first place? Hint: it's not because they are jealous of you.
Well, I'm sure some are jealous.
But for the most part, its simply a matter of You cannot please everyone. No matter what a person, group, country etc. does, someone will be unhappy about the decision.
Say we go into North Koera next, in a couple years. North Korea won't be happy. China wouldn't be happy. Many Americans will not be happy.

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Originally posted by: Regicidal_Maniac
Oh an Communism the ultimate evil? Yeah okaaaay. Quick there's a red behind you! No wait it's a witch, no wait it's a terrorist, no wait it's a gay man... Whatever.
I was speaking of the mentality of the time period, not my personal feelings.
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#71642
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It's official...
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Originally posted by: motti_soL
its funny how bush supporters forget the past so quickly. bush sr. with reagan and all the other cronies from the 80's places osama bin ladin in power, they are the ones that places saddam hussein in power and just smiled when this "axis of evil" was operating at its worst.

bush speaks of WMD? where are they? not a single shred of evidence that supports that theory has been presented.

saddam hussein has no links to al-qaeda or afghanistan, this has been proved.

if it is saddam hussein that you wanted to get rid of then get rid of him, dont violate the entire country. you (as in the americans) have put people on the moon, surely you would be able to get one man?

why so sceptical about iran and north korea getting nuclear power? oh youre afraid that they will develop WMD as in nuclear bombs? true, it would be unfortunate if they were to use them. but what does that make the USA, being the only country in over 50 years to ever have used the bomb on a population... twice...
1. The UN came out this week saying that a building, known to hold dual-purpose nuclear refining equipment has disappeared. Not the equipment, the entire building!!
Note: Nuclear refining equipment. But he didn't have weapons. No, he had all the knowledge and equipment to build them as soon as the UN sanctions were gone, and as evidence from the Duelfer Report, we know that he was strongly working on removing those.

2. Saddam Hussein HAD links to al-qaeda. Saddam had no links to 9/11. The headline writers at the New York Times and all those other newspapers that said that after the 9/11 Commision report came out are morons.

3. Oh, assassinate Saddam, that's a smart idea. Who takes power when he's gone?? Uday or Qusay?? Those 2 are (well, were) more blood-thirsty and maniacal that Saddam was.
Saddam was like the single head of a hydra. Cut it off, and more will popup in his place.

Regicidal_Maniac,
I've said this several times, in the boards various political discussions.
During the years past, the United States has held a The enemy of my enemy is my friend attitude.

In WW2, Churchill and Roosevelt knew that Stalin was as evil a man as Hitler, but they also knew they had no hopes of winning the war without the USSR. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

During the Iraq-Iran War, Iran was considered the far greater threat to the Middle East, so the US backed Saddam (I believe Iran was also backed by the USSR, and the US took every opportunity to stop the spread of communism). The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, we knew that they must be stopped. Communism was the ultimate evil, so we armed and trained a "rebel" named Osama bin Laden. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

This administration has not taken up that same montra. Enemies are enemies and friends are friends. This administration has learned from the mistakes of the past. Unlike others, which decided to continue dealing with terrorists in a police fashion, or that pull out at the first death of an American soldier (Somalia, Lebanon), we stand firm.

I'm not touching Israel. I do not feel I have enough knowledge about the situation to participate in an educated discussion. I will say, however, that I've never heard of Israelis strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up buses. I do not consider them terrorists.

As for your interesting attempt at an insult:
neo-con: Believe it or not, I don't even know what this refers to.
right-wing: Darn proud of it.
christian: Actually, Roman Catholic, but I try not to talk religion on the boards.
reich: I take it this is a reference to nazism. I find that interesting.
I was under the impression that nazism was short for 'National Socialism". Socialism is strongly equated with communism, and communism is on the far left of the political spectrum. So, for someone to be a "right-wing nazi" would be an oxymoron.
However, its been many years since I had my Government and Politics class in high school, so I could be wrong about the above paragraph.
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#71482
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Question about PT to OT continuity
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I think a certain testament to the strength of the midiclorian explanation is evident in EP2.

But there is no talk about midiclorians in EP2!

My point exactly.

People showed a general distaste for the midiclorian talk in EP1. So, it was completely absent in EP2. It will likely not be discussed any in EP3.
Likewise, I don't think people liked the sappy Anakin/Padme scenes. As a result, we haven't heard about there being anything like it in EP3.
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#71455
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It's official...
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(Page numbers are using Adobe Acrobat numbering)
Page 90:
The Regime sought a favorable relationship with France because France was influential as a permanent member of the UN Security Council and was in a good position to help Iraq with lifting sanctions.

Page 138:
One aspect of Saddam’s strategy of unhinging the UN’s sanctions against Iraq, centered on Saddam’s efforts to influence certain UN SC permanent members, such as Russia, France, and China and some nonpermanent (Syria, Ukraine) members to end UN sanctions.

Page 191:
Moreover, the IIS paper targeted a number of French individuals that the Iraqi’s thought had close relations to French President Chirac, including, according to the Iraqi assessment, the official spokesperson of President Chirac’s re-election campaign, two reported “counselors” of President Chirac, and two well-known French businessmen. In May 2002, IIS correspondence addressed to Saddam stated that a MFA (quite possibly an IIS officer under diplomatic cover) met with French parliamentarian to discuss Iraq-Franco relations. The French politician assured the Iraqi that France would use its veto in the UNSC against any American decision to attack Iraq, according to the IIS memo.

Page: 246
The French-Iraqi procurement relationship existed within a larger bi-lateral political relationship, which was turbulent and problematic throughout the 1990s up until OIF. From Saddam Husayn’s perspective, the relationship was built on Iraq’s hopes to influence a permanent membership on the UN Security Council against the United State and UK (see the Ministry of Foreign Affairs section).
• Illustrating Iraq’s persistent efforts to curry favor in Paris, France, was one of the top three countries with companies or individuals receiving secret oil vouchers (see the Oil Voucher section). Iraq also awarded numerous short-term contracts under the UN OFF program to companies in France totaling $1.78 million, approximately 14 percent of the oil allocated under the UN OFF Program.

That's a small percentage of the French references I found. There were also numerous references to procurement deals involving France that "eroded the sanctions".
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#71433
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It's official...
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Originally posted by: motti_soL
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saved Iraq, saved Afganistan


LOL, youre kidding, right?

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France and Germany weren't allies lost by Bush. They were bribed by Hussein to go against us. If they had just not helped us, it would be no big deal, but they tried to stop us from taking out a regime that was an obvious threat to the world and Iraq's own people.


are you serious? do you truly believe what you are saying?!?!
Its not what Darth Chaltab and myself said...its what the Duelfer Report says. Its a left-wing biased national media that is being hush-hush on the details that support the war.
Duelfer Report: Summary of Key Findings, from CIA website
Duelfer Report: Access to all 3 parts, and summary

I'm currently downloading the 53MB first 1/3 of the full report. I will search it for references to France, and post here later.
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#71364
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
They can't.

the simple fact is that all their reasons for hating Bush are ridicuous, or based in mistruths and exagerations. There is no reason to hate our current president. France and Germany weren't allies lost by Bush. They were bribed by Hussein to go against us. If they had just not helped us, it would be no big deal, but they tried to stop us from taking out a regime that was an obvious threat to the world and Iraq's own people.
To be completely technical about it, I believe the countries mentioned in the Dulfer (sp?) Report were France, Russia and China, not Germany.
Not to say Germany might not have profitted from Food for Oil, I don't know. Just relaying what I heard.

However, I saw a headline today (didn't read the article) that Germany may be willing to help in Iraq...it may not happen for a number of years.
Found it:
Germany: Never say never on Iraq
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#71066
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It's official...
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Originally posted by: motti_soL
anyone see the debate last night? i didnt feel like staying up until 3am to watch it, so give a very quick rundown of who came out on top...
Pundits take: Bush crushed Kerry
Snap polls taken right after debate: At best, Bush tied Kerry. Otherwise, Kerry won.

However, Bush was quite strong. He put Kerry on the defensive for most of the debate. Bush brought up Kerry's senate record, voting to raise taxes X times, voting against lower taxes Y times, etc.

Kerry also said some things that hit some trouble spots:
1. He brought up Cheney's daughter, which sent the gasp through the crowd and rattled the press corp. It hurt Edwards when he talked about it in the VP debate, why would Kerry talk about it?
2. The last question: Here, I'll just get a transcript and copy-and-paste.
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SCHIEFFER: We've come, gentlemen, to our last question. And it occurred to me as I came to this debate tonight that the three of us share something. All three of us are surrounded by very strong women. We're all married to strong women. Each of us have two daughters that make us very proud.

I'd like to ask each of you, what is the most important thing you've learned from these strong women?

BUSH: To listen to them.

(LAUGHTER)

To stand up straight and not scowl.

(LAUGHTER)

I love the strong women around me. I can't tell you how much I love my wife and our daughters.

I am -- you know it's really interesting. I tell the people on the campaign trail, when I asked Laura to marry me, she said, Fine, just so long as I never have to give a speech. I said, OK, you've got a deal. Fortunately, she didn't hold me to that deal. And she's out campaigning along with our girls. And she speaks English a lot better than I do. I think people understand what she's saying.

But they see a compassionate, strong, great first lady in Laura Bush. I can't tell you how lucky I am. When I met her in the backyard at Joe and Jan O'Neill's in Midland, Texas, it was the classic backyard barbecue. O'Neill said, Come on over. I think you'll find somebody who might interest you. So I said all right. I walked over there. There was only four of us there. And not only did she interest me, I guess you would say it was love at first sight.

SCHIEFFER: Senator Kerry?

KERRY: Well, I guess the president and you and I are three examples of lucky people who married up.

(LAUGHTER)

And some would say maybe me moreso than others.

(LAUGHTER)

But I can take it.

(LAUGHTER)

Can I say, if I could just say a word about a woman that you didn't ask about, but my mom passed away a couple years ago, just before I was deciding to run. And she was in the hospital, and I went in to talk to her and tell her what I was thinking of doing.

And she looked at me from her hospital bed and she just looked at me and she said, Remember: integrity, integrity, integrity. Those are the three words that she left me with.

And my daughters and my wife are people who just are filled with that sense of what's right, what's wrong.

They also kick me around. They keep me honest. They don't let me get away with anything. I can sometimes take myself too seriously. They surely don't let me do that.

And I'm blessed, as I think the president is blessed, as I said last time. I've watched him with the first lady, who I admire a great deal, and his daughters. He's a great father. And I think we're both very lucky.

So, Kerry JOKED about marrying into money, and then when he talked about his strong female influences, he DOESN'T talk about his wife...he talks about his MOTHER????