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@DrDre & Turisu: thanks!

@Bobson Dugnutt: took a look, it seems great! Don’t know if this project could have a reason…

@RU.08: agree partially; it looks a bit platic-y, because I maybe exceeded with the sharpening, and also the fact source is HDTV instead BD did not help - indeed, previous comparison made using BD looks better IMHO.
But, sharpening it less, and/or blurring the image a bit, watching in motion, at the normal distance (not zoomed in, of course) could lead to a nice result. Of course, as usual, any feedback is welcome!

Thanks!

A lot of avisynth cleaning, denoising, sharpening, upscaling, downscaling, and so on… 😄

May you point me to that ROTS project? Thanks!

Attack of the Clones upscale: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/130317

This is even worse, as it takes around four minutes (!) for each frame!

I’m 99.99% sure that Phantom Menace is not available in UHD (BD or WEB); yet, I’ve found that someone released a so-called UHD-rip… now, again 99.99% sure it is a mere upscale (and not greatly made, I should add).

So, I can’t resist to make an attempt to clean and upscale the BD - and also regrade, as I was there! 😃

Sadly, no BD player on my PC, so I just took the “UHD”, downscale it 50% with paint (!) and started to develop a suitable script… it took several days of trials&errors, but I think I got a nice result: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/130289

(Note: you can see some details lost in the dark areas, it’s due to my regrade choice, but this is out of the scope of this thread for the moment)

Problem #1: the difference, when zoomed in, is great, but at normal size it is far less impressive…

Problem #2: to render a single frame, my PC takes around 2 minutes (!) - so, at that rate, it will take around 8 months and half, 24/7!!! So, unless someone would kindly give me a powerful workstation as a gift (or more than one) 😉 that will reduce rendering time to a decent amount (“only” one month? two?), the whole project will not happen…

Opinions?

ZigZig said:

Here is the resut (compared to another project where a simple upscaled SD video seems to be used):

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/KKW7NNNX

Comparison :

SD upscaled :

ZigZig’s HD reconstruction :

I did it quicky without really adjusting the fine parameters, but the result seems to me already very promising.

I just took my TB copy (ORF is the same, by the way), upscaled on MSpaint to get HD size, and noted that in this shot, its frame is bigger on all sides, in particular on bottom…

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/129849

I also noted that Chewielewis’ frame size is a bit bigger, albeit your has more details; I wonder you have used the BD and overlaid the humans only, right? Why don’t you use both SD and Chewie’s versions to get added “borders”? Just my 2c, hope this could be useful!

Eagerly waiting to see this release - do not let us wait until 20th Anniversary! 😄

The IAR (Intended Aspect Ratio) was 1.85; the 1.78:1 version shown on HDTV has a bit more image on top and bottom; the 1.33:1 fullscreen DVD has much more image on top and bottom on most shots, while loosing some on left and/or right side; but only the original film frame was full open matte, containing the whole 1.85:1 width, plus more on top and bottom - sometimes not intended parts, too, hence boom mics etc, that you will never see on any official versions.

deleted_10-Mar-2023 said:

Are there any clean sources for Michael Jackson music videos in HD (other than the ones in Moonwalker)? I’m specifically looking for Thriller, Bad, and Ghosts

Ghosts is available in HD for sure.

Great! Curious to see the difference!

Interesting project!

May you make a comparison video with untouched and your version?

Thanks!

Resurrect this old thread because I don’t think there is a need to start a new one…

Well, “ages” ago I was trying to regrade the WOWOW recording; the color target was a set of screenshots taken from the theatrical print (please do not ask me which one, because I simply can’t remember!); I used RaiTre recording as color reference, with few settings more to go closer to the target.

Top WOWOW, bottom WOWOW regraded:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/128073

do note that Luke in the jail corridor should not be so magenta; probably it’s due to out-of-sync problems, and the color macthing should have picked up a magenta laser (probably?)

Avatar_Emil_Borg said:
I’m not using the HDTV simply because it is not a good place to start. Quality might be passable, but the resolution? Not so much.

So, the PAL DVD is better?!?

Brand new regrade, using Arrow as source!

Arrow

D Ξ Г Ι П Ι Т Ι V Λ

Comparison: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/127884

Avatar_Emil_Borg said:

The primary source will be the PAL DVD as it is the only source I could find (outside the HDTV broadcast) that was widescreen.

A question: why you are not using the HDTV as main source? It can’t be worse than DVD, right?

oojason said:

Superb work ^…^ 😃

I think you’ve already covered most (if not all) of the publicised scene changes to Rogue One, though I hope this may be of some small help:

Going to steal’em all, and paste on the first post! 😉

Oh well, better to add a “simple” link to your post here! 😄

JayArgonaut said:

^…^ said:

Yes, DVB transmissions started around 2004 IIRC, and DVD recorders were available around that year…

In Italy? Here in the UK, DVB transmissions began in the late 90s.

Yes, I should have been more specific! 😄

First post updated with ITV info!

Thanks!

Please post language of audio and sub tracks, and audio and video bitrates, thanks again! 😃

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsl7-TJtPew

😄 😄 😄

Agree!

But first, let’s find’em all! 😄

JayArgonaut said:

There’s also the ITV broadcasts too, if you’re interested? Previously, they were cropped to fill 16:9 but in the past 2 years, at least, the films have been shown in their OAR and appear to have been sourced from the same masters as the Blu-ray and post-Disney purchase.

If you can provide more info, I’ll add them.

Also, just received a confimation that a broadcast of EPII was in 16:9 (with SFX cropped); it will be great to have it capped, along with EPII (if in 16:9 as well)!

Original post: https://forum.fanres.com/thread-2455.html

Great addition from oojason here: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1263912/action/topic#1263912

NOTE:
I tried very hard to “convert” the post in markdown to get it here (first manually, then using several online converter), but I wasn’t able to do it properly… until someone would “translate” it and send it via PM (ask for the HTML source!), I’m forced to show just a screenshot of the post I made on fanres…

Really sorry for the problem, hope to solve it soon!

😦

Nope. Yet. But… 😉

I’m sure there are some HDTV recordings floating around of EPVII with the IMAX scene inside it; it will be nice to get file info of the untouched file.

EP II and III: as they were filmed with a digital camera, in 16:9, it “may” be possible that an open matte version of these could be available as an HDTV recording; if someone is aware of this, please post a comment here!

UPDATE!

updated first post; added deleted scenes of EPVIII and Solo, plus something about Rogue One.

It would be nice to find out a complete list of its cut shots found on trailers and teasers…

Indeed, Tomb Raider has a lot of great full open matte shots available in 1.33:1 frame size - can’t say it is the whole film frame, but those shots are way better than letterbox version!