Leia does distract him. She’s not the one who redeems him, it’s Rey. Kylo starts second guessing his dark path after Rey “kills” him and then revives him. The “hallucination” of Han is a personification of Ben’s internal struggle. He’s reliving a memory of his darkest moment and realizing it could’ve gone differently.
The issue I have with the bridge shot and moving the Vader (other than kylo losing his motivation to build a new helmet) is that the the first shot of Kylo on Mustafar is a very “establishing” shot, like it feels like a reveal. A “here’s Kylo!” moment. If you place the bridge or helmet moment first, then the first shots of Kylo are kind of underwhelming. But then they’re immediately followed up by a dramatic reveal of his face fighting. In all the mockups people have done it just feels disjointed.
Just my two cents
I’m curious to see what people might come up with putting the helmet scene at the start. The fact that he knows Palps is behind Vader’s voice is definitely an important question. In my edit I tried to solve this by having Kylo hear Palps’s voice when he touches the helmet, so basically it’s like Kylo was checking to see if what he said was true.
I think keeping the Vader helmet where you originally have it is best. It gives Kylo motivation to rebuild his helmet. And I totally picked up on him testing to see if it really was palpatine.
Continuity error with Rey and the saber.
https://i.redd.it/0eju4uoy3jy41.jpgThis has ruined the movie for me.
Really? To me this is no different than Luke leaving the Death Star without his lightsaber and somehow magically having it on Endor to celebrate.
I’m sorry, I don’t know what you mean by “repurposed chess scene.” Did I miss something?
People were discussing moving the chess scene to the end of the movie. This way it shows that the whole crew went with Rey to tatooine.
Played around with that Coruscant concept art from DOTF: https://vimeo.com/416679459
It might be usable with some added lights and sfx.This could be useful: [CVPR 2020] 3D Photography using Context-aware Layered Depth Inpainting
Similar project: 3d-ken-burnsIt can be ran in Google Colab, but unfortunately, the resolution is quite low since the runtime is limited.
The result would have to be touched up obviously, but this is how the Coruscant concept art turned out.
It would be cool to replace that superstructure with the star destroyer that gets destroyed during the end. Would be a nice way to include coruscant further.
Jadi ghosts_purple version
https://vimeo.com/412387620
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Jonh you absolute beast!! It looks great.
Edit: also I wanna say, I hope you’re still working on fixing Luke’s hair. Your test mock-up already looks leagues better than the weird wig they stuck Luke in.
To move crawl discussion for this project into its own thread, here’s my current draft. Could stand some tweaking yet.
Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
Across the galaxy, the spark of hope lives on. To suffocate a growing uprising, the tyrannical First Order has silenced communication between neighboring systems.Attempting to unite the disparate rebelling worlds, General Leia Organa dispatches her brave agents across the stars to fan the flame of Resistance.
Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar in search of a rumored Imperial fleet that would allow him to destroy any threat to his power…
Maybe instead of “suffocate” you go with “extinguish”. Unless that’s beating the spark motif to death
shit … I couldn’t contain myself, fucking hair
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ibJV4LFQlxx8fkjBmT71UDQh-PuPUT8r
only a test,
I have to improve it
Jonh you are a vfx wizard. Already looks better than than the official release
I’d personally keep Rey Palptine just cus I’d like to be able to watch this edit with any future content and not have to worry about canon contradictions cus I’m an annoying nerd.
But I agree with these guys about Rey’s parents staying drunkards. It’s weird that she’d say her parents were strong and then reject their name and take Skywalker. (Not an advocate of a “just Rey” ending though as the way “Rey Skywalker” was handeled was exactly how I wanted going into the movie.)
Hal, what from Dominic’s edit are you specifically looking at using. I really enjoy the way he’s restructuring Rey and Kylo’s visions to be separate scenes.
I might be in the minority, but I really like the ending as is. The only thing I would add is Force Ghost Ben Solo.
After Palpatine bids Kylo to “become what [his] grandfather, Vader, could not,” would it work to cut to the original last shot of the scene?
There’d be more time for a wipe transition, and it’d imply Palpatine arrogantly things he’s “got” him, like he has the hooks in his jaw ala Anakin in ROTS, but with a touch of being off the money ala Luke in ROTJ.
I think this is necessary. With Dom’s current cut it kinda implies that Rey is “what [Kylo’s] grandfather” could not become.
Hal 9000 said:
Rose’s theme bringing some resonance to Finn
Speaking of this, do y’all think Rose’s theme would work when the space-horses are charging the star destroyer?
I think it turns Rose’s theme into a pseudo-Finn’s Theme and could work well.
Here’s a really REALLY, rough proof of concept: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PwCT7Y_EWiJIatBFfZ5_bDutrhlKInmD
And there should, I feel, be at least one speaking gibberish. Like “Ooba dooba Skywalker!”
Only if there’s a Gungan yelling “Weesa doin this forsa Skywalker!” lol
On an unrelated note, in the novelization, when Lando and the fleet arrive at Exegol there’s a moment where a bunch of different ships call in. “Mon Calamari fleet standing by. Ghost standing by.” Stuff like that. It’s got Inferno Squad, the Aces from resistance, Alphabet Squadron all calling in. Could be a cool way to expand on the final battle to show that the whole galaxy has united together.
I do agree, but maybe reduce Finn screaming her name a lot.
That’s exactly what I would do. Have him do the first scream, get pushed back, and then cut after Jana says her line but before his second scream.
Here’s another attempt at rescoring the duel. This time, as Hal wanted to play with, I removed Finn and Jannah interfering and swelled the music as Ben walks through the wave as Jar Jar Bricks did.
https://vimeo.com/399031497
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I honestly kinda like Rey pushing Finn back. It shows how desperate she is to run away from her problems alone, how she doesn’t want her friends to get hurt.
Or maybe brighten or pink-ify the added footage to roughly match the look of the main footage. Or if you reuse Vader’s castle, possibly with Krennic’s shuttle removed, do the same to make its atmosphere feel the same as what follows. (I’m sure the planet still had lava, right?)
That, along with the crawl mentioning his “grandfather’s” wayfinder, would be pretty neat. Makes it feel less arbitrary that “two were made,” since it’d be more clear that there was one for each of two Sith.
I do like the concept and that’s not a bad mockup at all. Nice find with the volcanic footage!
Oh, and should Kylo’s scar from TLJ be further healed for that brief moment on the bridge?
I just started the audiobook of the novelization and it specifically mentions that the wayfinder belonged to Vader. I feel stating that somewhere could help solidify that we are on Mustafar to the audience.
What about slowing down Rey and Kylo’s visions in the first act. I feel like they flashed too fast to tell what was going on, like I didn’t realize we actually saw shots of Rey on the Sith throne until someone pointed it out.
So I just put the song over the fight on the Death Star Wreckage. Didn’t do any work to it at all (as I am not very good at editing), and it seemed to work pretty good:
https://vimeo.com/397812921
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That’s incredible. It needs some fine tuning of course, but it doesn’t seem like it’ll be too much work.
I think this score would fit perfectly into the rey and kylo Ren fight on the second death star. I hated how there was no big score it was just the waves crashing by. It needed its own Orginal score but this is a good compromise.
I would absolutely love if this was included. At least until Rey starts getting worn out and the fight slows down.
From the TFA:R thread -
Is anyone aware of a suitable bit of music which combines the Emperor’s theme and the Imperial March? I wonder if replacing the musical cue which accompanies Vader’s helmet would be helpful to connect to TROS.
I don’t feel it should replace the Imperial March, but evoking both themes would be appropriate. Does anyone know of such a piece, or could perhaps blend them like that?
I’d check out Samuel Kim on YouTube. He’s got mixes of a bunch of Star Wars themes.
Also a suggestion: Maybe add Palpatine’s laugh somewhere in Rey’s force vision in Episode VII. It might be too on the nose but it could be cool if you heard it when we see Rey’s parents leaving her on Jakku.
