One urge I Keep having is to turn Arvala into Tattooine. It can be done really easily, but I guess Arvala is just a little too muddy!
Woooow, thats a great idea!
Would certainly add to the association between Tattooine and force users!
One urge I Keep having is to turn Arvala into Tattooine. It can be done really easily, but I guess Arvala is just a little too muddy!
Are you plannIng to share a vimeo link with download option as you used to do with the TCW edits? š
Yes, but Iām limited to 4GB on Vimeo so itāll be a 720 version.
Running time now clocks in at a very reasonable 2h 25minsā¦ Cutting the first Nevarro scenes saved 10mins, but I also retained a minute or so from those scenes and also put back in some things that were previously cut to get better pacing, particularly from the Child rescue scenes.
Completion draws ever nearer. All changes required to start the film on Arvala have now been completed. I just need to fine tune a few things in the final act and itās good to go. It should be completed by the end of next week, just in time for me to do a couple a full viewings on holiday and then start rendering.
I know, but heās already planning to include an āEpisode 7ā version for sequel haters, so I donāt see why one extra version would be a problem.
But if I was on a desert island and I could only have one version, I would probably prefer an opening crawl. The first half of the first episode has been cut in this version, so itās the only way the plot could make sense without all that exposition.
Some of that exposition could be added back to when Dyn is bringing back The Child, seeing as in the series he was revisiting locations. Might be messy though. A lot of that early exposition is unnecessary, as itās repeated later.
The first (successful) mission being lost might be required to add back in to show that heās a good bounty hunter (since his mission to retrieve the Child is full of failures and I believe the Tattooine adventure was cut). That would be the only thing I could think of to add back in if the crawl was cut.
You canāt put the Mytherol capture scene in without including the first Nevarro trip.
Iāve put the Trandoshan scene back in so Dyn does come across as a decent bounty hunter. In the first act he successfully captures the child, shoots IG and sees off 2 Trandoshans. He then retrieves the child from the Client.
His only āfailuresā are being beaten by the mudhorn and being understandably pinned down by virtually the entire bounty hunter guild.
Sounds good. If you really want a TPM vibe, replace the child with a baby jarjar. š
Mesa donāt like that idea!
This sounds like a great idea. I havenāt watched the show, so if I watch this edit, I can let you know what I think.
Wow. It would be great to get the perspective of someone who hasnāt seen the show. I would still recommend watching the show because there is a lot of cool stuff that I havenāt been able to include.
I wonder if it would flow better to cut Mando in the cockpit so that the first time we see him is stepping off the Razor Crest? I suppose you could include the shot of him from behind. It would add a little mystery to who is piloting the ship as it descends on the planet.
Actually I think I may go for a halfway house on this. Iāll cut the frontal cockpit shot and leave the shot from the rear. Itāll give the opening a real TPM vibeā¦ similar space pan, shot of Mando from the rear, ship lands and a frontal Mando reveal.
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I think at this point, considering how well liked Rogue One is (and to a lesser degree, Solo) the argument can be made that āThe Theatrical Star Wars Experienceā can just cold-open after āA Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Awayā¦ā now. Maybe it couldnāt have done that before, but itās fairly accepted now, and honestly - it probably just works better here.
Iād suggest just cutting the crawl entirely. You donāt need it for a Star Wars movie to still feel like a Star Wars movie.
Solo also had an opening crawl. For me itās a crucial part of a Star Wars theatrical experience. In terms of the font colour. Iāll be producing 2 versionsā¦ the pale Mando version and a classical yellow Star Wars version.
oh, sorry, I thought the yellow one is only for Episode VII version š
About Solo, there was a kind of opening crawl there, but not the classic one. Actually, I think it would work veeery well in the Mandalorian. And It would Save you a lot of work actually š
It would certainly save me work! These pan shots are very time consuming to construct!
I think at this point, considering how well liked Rogue One is (and to a lesser degree, Solo) the argument can be made that āThe Theatrical Star Wars Experienceā can just cold-open after āA Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Awayā¦ā now. Maybe it couldnāt have done that before, but itās fairly accepted now, and honestly - it probably just works better here.
Iād suggest just cutting the crawl entirely. You donāt need it for a Star Wars movie to still feel like a Star Wars movie.
Solo also had an opening crawl. For me itās a crucial part of a Star Wars theatrical experience. In terms of the font colour. Iāll be producing 2 versionsā¦ the pale Mando version and a classical yellow Star Wars version.
Sorry, could you let us know the password to view? Loving what Iāve read on this edit thus far.
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Wow, itās so good to see you back. This edit looks incredible so far, canāt wait to see it finished!
Thanks! Great to be back. The hunger has returned!
So protect Arvala Opening has now been finished. Took a bit of time because I recreated the starfield around the iris transition, create the hyperspace exit and re-do the opening crawl. Then I couldnāt get the music to transition from the opening theme to the Arvala scene so I had to rebuild the sound mix and re-score it.
However, its now done so Iām back on track. The opening crawl doesnāt flow as well as Iād like so any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Any updates on a final version yet? Super excited to check out the finished movie!
The project was basically finished and then I was persuaded to consider cutting the first trip to Nevarro, which actually works very well.
It means the movie now starts as the Mando approaches Arvala-7.
That has meant a bit more work to retain few lines of exposition from the cut scenes and add them into the other Nevarro scenes. That work is mostly completed.
The thing that has taken a bit of time is constructing a pan shot of the Razorcrest approaching Arvala-7. Iāve just cracked the visual pan, I now need to sort out the music transition
So Iām getting there. Completion might have to be pushed back to the start of August.
So, after discussion with @jkimm Iām exploring the idea of cutting out the first trip to Nevarro and starting on Arvala-7. However, there is still some exposition from the first Nevarro trip that I want to retain, particularly from the armourer scene.
Here is the first edited sceneā¦ the clientā¦ this is the first time Mando will meet the client.
Its only the centre audio channel at the moment to get an idea of how it flows.
just a correction to the end titles preview: Thereās no āhā in Jon Favreau. Also, the directors credits should probably be all on the same card instead of split over two.
Also, itās a thing I see a lot around here, but I feel like aiming for a runtime for the sake of hitting the runtime instead of letting the runtime be whatever it is naturally when you feel the pacing is perfect is a practice that only makes sense when youāre a studio actively trying to squeeze out as many screenings as possible.
If youāre fan-editing, and itās never going to be in a theater, thereās no real reason to aim for runtime benchmarks for the sake of nothing other than hitting the benchmarks. Usually this concern goes the other way (people refusing to cut a movie under a certain runtime because then itāll be ātoo shortā despite the fact ātoo shortā doesnāt mean anything in the abstract like that) but if you feel like you had the pacing really solid a couple edits back and the only reason you pushed it to go shorter is just so you can say you pushed it shorter, Iād suggest maybe re-thinking that inclination and really giving that longer cut a rewatch to see if it really does just feel better at the prior length.
Anyway, Iām very glad to see youāre back to fanediting and Iām very much looking forward to seeing how this project turns out.
Thanks for the spelling Correction.
In terms of having a target runtime, the reason I use it as a guide is because Iām editing TV episodes into a movie. It gives an indication of whether there is too much or too little material to produce a movie. Over 2.5 hours suggests there is too much being crammed in, and 2 separate movies is a better option. Throughout this edit I felt Iāve been pushing things to put it into a single movie.
I agree the feel and pacing is more important, but in my experience sitting down to watch something over 2.5 hours is challenging, no matter how good it is!
In the final stages now. Feedback coming in from the test viewings and some minor adjustments being made.
Running time now down to 2:29:49ā¦ Finally made it under the magic 2h 30mins!
Iād also love a link for a test viewing!
I like the idea of the Mudhorn already waiting outside the cave. Iām at work so Iāve only seen the clip on my phone with no volume, but I wonder if it would make sense to flip the shot of the Mudhorn roaring. It seems to mess a little with the 180-degree rule as it doesnāt seem to be roaring at the Mando.
Thanks for the tip!
Iād like a link too, if youāre still sending them. If not, I can wait for the final release.
I have three volunteers already and Iām hoping that will be sufficient. Thanks for the offers.
I tried that originally. However it takes a lot of zoom to cut Mando out and that accentuates shaky cam.
Iām happy with the current cut. Itās certainly better than walking into the cave for no reason!
So here is my finished Mudhorn scene edit with the cave cut out. It works a lot better than the previous cut and removes the issue of the Mandalorian entering the cave for no apparent reason.
So, Iām tinkering with a few scenes that Iām not 100% happy with. First up is the Mudhorn.
Iām trying to cut it together so that the Mudhorn is already out of the cave when Mando walks into the Valley. Here is a rough cut. Let me know what you think
Episode 1 is done. I have DMād the three users that were interested in a test viewing. The final version looks like being ready to go by the end of July!
Looks good but is there a particular reason why you didnāt have the Razor Crest jump to hyperspace before the credits? Hereās a rough version:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Slg79VVlnPngh1XhYUtnrtXZ_DUOhsgy/view?usp=sharing
A couple of reasons.
I didnāt think that a blank space image made a good iris-out shotā¦ it looked better with the Razorcrest in full view.
Having the Razorcrest slowly moving through space fits with the long, slow journey ahead of them.
The final piece in the jigsawā¦ the closing scene and iris-out to credits.
Total running time weighing in at 2h 31mins.
I now just need to do a technical check of the audio channels and transcode a 720 version for a couple of test viewers.
Since it should be in the classic Star Wars film-style: Will there be Star Wars end credits in typical blue writings and font? š
Of course!