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#1364186
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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I wasn’t happy with the opening crawl, so I’ve been playing around with it. I’ve settled on this. Any comments?

Following the Battle of Endor the NEW REPUBLIC has restored peace to the core systems, but a power vacuum has plunged the outer rim into chaos.

IMPERIAL REMNANTS have formed in the shadows. They have taken control of distant worlds as they search for a mysterious asset that could return them to power.

Commissioned by the Bounty Hunter Guild and given only the asset’s age and the promise of a vast reward, a lone MANDALORIAN approaches its last known location…

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#1363988
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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Sooooooo… its finished!!!

Just in time to render a HQ version to take on holiday with me next week and study the final product.

Should be set for an early August release.

Here is the final alterations list:

Classical Star Wars Opening Crawl and Pan sequence.

Chapter 1
Cut first 21 minutes of Chapter 1…. includes Mytherol bounty capture scene and all scenes on Nevarro.
Crawl pans to manufactured Razorcrest hyperspace exit merging into the approach to Arvala-7.
Arvala-7 approach re-scored using “Face to Face”.
Cut head-on shot of Mando in the cockpit to add impact to his “reveal” exit from the Razorcrest.
Trimmed Razorcrest exit sequence to speed up pacing.
Extended Mando/Kuill hut scene by reversing a shot of Kuill and adding in “you are a Mandalorian, your ancestors rode the great Mythosaur’. This line now cuts to Mando mounting and riding the Blurg.
Cut all but last 10 seconds of the ‘learning to ride Blurg’ scene.
Trimmed scene of IG getting shot as the CGI looks too animated.
Cut exchange between IG and Mando where IG runs a diagnostic.
Cut Mando shooting enemy as they enter the building.
Used a reversed shot to extend the pause between the blaster shot and IG falling to the ground.
Re-scored the child reveal using “Farewell” to give a more natural transition into the first scene of chapter 2.

Chapter 2
Rebuild sound mix to remove music from Trandoshan scene.
All Jawa scenes cut.
Transition straight from Trandoshan scene to Mando walking to Mudhorn valley.
Rescored transition using “The Hangar” and “The Egg".
Mudhorn scene re-cut so that Mudhorn is out of the cave as Mando walks into the valley.
Slo-motion edits when Mando is dazed have been cut.
Mudhorn scene cuts to scene where Mando is repairing himself and his armour.
Altered soundtrack of Mando repairing scene to transition better into the walking montage.
Transition to Kuill homestead scene.
Audio rebuilt to allow add in of discussion between Kuill and Mando about the child’s force ability (added from cut Jawa-related scene).
Cut child eating creature scene.
End of scene rescored using “Celebration”.
Transition from Kuill’s camp to Razorcrest.
Rebuilt audio of Mando leaving Arvala to allow a re-score of the scene - rescored with “Trashed Crest”.
Cut to Kuill-IG reprogram scene from Chapter 7. Audio rebuilt to remove Kuill narration and score extended using “Reprogram”. Reprogram scene upto the point where IG awakens is used, rest is cut.

Chapter 3
Added Razorcrest cockpit shot of hyperspace exit from chapter 6 and immediately cut to hyperspace exit shot from chapter 3.
Cut Grief Carga line “I don’t know if he wants to eat it or hang it on his wall, but he’s getting very ansy”.
Cut transition wipe as Mando walks through town.
When Mando meets the Client added “Beskar?” and “Go ahead, its real” from Chapter 1.
Added scene from Chapter 1 where Mando leaves the Client’s office including the line “the Beskar belongs back into the hands of a Mandalorian……”. Shots reused to hide the fact that Mando doesn’t have a beskar pauldron.
Rebuilt audio to allow smooth music transition to Mando walking back through town.
Added armourer lines from Chapter 1 “this is from the great purge… it is good it is back from the tribe”.
Cut Armourer “This would be in order for your station”.
Cut Mando “That would be a great honour”.
Insert Armourer/Mando “has your signet been revealed….not yet” from Chapter 1.
Cut Mando/Armourer exchange about whistling birds.
Cut whistling birds from the armour sequence.
Add Cantina patron scene from Chapter 1 to Cantina intro sequence.
Add Grief Carga/Mando exposition dialogue from Chapter 1…. referring to Bounty hunter guild using cuts from Chapter 3.
Cut section of stormtrooper search “We’ll flush him out”.
Cut scene where Mando is captured inside the client’s office and uses whistling birds.
Removed wipe before tracking fobs activate.
Shortened Grief Carga/Mando final confrontation scene to shorten the 2 excessive pauses.
Re-scored the Razorcrest escape using “Nightriders” to increase tension.
Cut the flying Mandalorian next to the Razorcrest.
Cut the Mando passing the ball to the child.
Added clip from Chapter 6 of “In cockpit hyperspace jump”.
Added clip from Chapter 6 of Mando handing the ball to the child so it now happens with the Razorcrest in hyperspace.
Moved Grief Carga survival scene to here to give a tense escape from Nevarro and to provide a bridge scene between the Razorcrest entering and exiting hyperspace.

Chapter 4
Added Hyperspace exit from Chapter 6.
Cut opening Raiders scene.
Cut line “I’m gonna need one more thing, give me those credits”.
Cut training montage.
Cut Cara line “I hope the plan worked”.
Trimmed AT-ST arrival scene to speed things up.
Cut Cara line “Its stopped”.
Cut Mando line “you got this”.
Cut the villager attack “its now or never” clip.
Cut child eating a frog scene.
Cut Mando “world travels fast”.
Recut Mando/villager kissing scene to show that Mando wants to stay and that he was about to let the villager remove his helmet until the gunshot.
Trim end scene to transition before dramatic music starts.

Chapter 5
Removed

Chapter 6
Removed

Chapter 7
Cut Grief Karga line “I guess we can call it even”.
Added in space battle scene from start of Chapter 5, but cut the severe engine damage from the sequence, removed Mando “that’s my line” and cut any image of Tatooine.
Cut down approach to Arvala-7.
Cut IG reprogram scene… first part edited and used between Chapters 2 and 3.
Kut Kuill “or whom I should serve”.
Cut Grief Karga “It appears introductions are in order. It appears we have both brought a security detail”.
Cut Grief Karga “I’m glad this matter will be put to test once and for all”.
Cut some sitting around the campfire.
Cut Grief Karga lines about the child being a carnivore and the Empire paying a King’s ransom.
Trimmed Bird attack scene.
Cut Grief Karga line “he’s trying to eat me”.
Cut Mando line to Kuill about engaging ground security protocols.
Trim Mando/Cara/Karga approach to biker scouts.
Move Mando reposte “on your wall” until after they are allowed passage through the checkpoint.
Cut Grief Karga “go with it”.
Cut First Kuill on Blurg clip.
Cut Client “libation” line.
Cut Client line “we all will be quiet”.
Cut Cara “you said 4” line.
Cut Client line “Currently it is sleeping” and Gideon line “you might want to check again” so that when the client says he has the child he is immediately shot.
Cut third Kuill on Blurg clip so that the Gideon arrival scene is uninterrupted.
Trim Kuill v Biker scout death clips just to reveal Kuill lying on the ground

Chapter 8
Cut entire Biker Scout scene.
Cut Mando Line “I’m out of charges”.
Cut Gideon proposal. Now plays out as though Gideon thinks the child is there.
Trim scene of IG coming through the town.
Cut Mando asking Cara to leave him.
Cut intro shot of Flametrooper.
Cut Mando saying he’s not going to make it.
Cut the Mando/IG “get it over with” exchange.
Trim searching in the sewers scene.
Cut Mando line “you go, I can’t leave it like this”.
Cut first part of flashback scene.
Cut Mando “you wish me to train this thing”.
Cut armourer “it is too weak, it would die”.
Add in “I was once a foundling…… I know” lines from Chapter 1.
Cut Cara line about an escape plan.
Cut dialogue where Armourer gives Mando directions to the lava river.
Cut Mando line about staying.
Remove transition wipes either side of armourer v stormtroopers scene.
Cut Grief Karga line “There’s the larva river”.
Remove wipe as boat travels along larva river.
Cut Mando Line “That supersedes your manufacturer’s protocol… right”.
Cut IG-88 line “This is correct”.
Cut Mando line “Grab a blaster and help us shoot our way out”.
Cut Mando line “No, we need you”.
Cut IG Line “There is nothing to be sad about, I’ve never been alone”.
Cut Mando line “I’m not sad”.
Cut IG Line “yes you are, I’m a nurse droid. I’ve analysed your voice”.
Added Razorcrest entering space clip from Chapter 3 to extend exit sequence.
Used Score from Chapter 3 to merge into Star Wars theme for the classical “Iris Out” transition to credits.
Cut Moff Gideon survival reveal scene and added as post credits scene.

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#1363434
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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Completion draws ever nearer. All changes required to start the film on Arvala have now been completed. I just need to fine tune a few things in the final act and it’s good to go. It should be completed by the end of next week, just in time for me to do a couple a full viewings on holiday and then start rendering.

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#1363049
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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JakeRyan17 said:

StarkillerAG said:

I know, but he’s already planning to include an “Episode 7” version for sequel haters, so I don’t see why one extra version would be a problem.

But if I was on a desert island and I could only have one version, I would probably prefer an opening crawl. The first half of the first episode has been cut in this version, so it’s the only way the plot could make sense without all that exposition.

Some of that exposition could be added back to when Dyn is bringing back The Child, seeing as in the series he was revisiting locations. Might be messy though. A lot of that early exposition is unnecessary, as it’s repeated later.

The first (successful) mission being lost might be required to add back in to show that he’s a good bounty hunter (since his mission to retrieve the Child is full of failures and I believe the Tattooine adventure was cut). That would be the only thing I could think of to add back in if the crawl was cut.

You can’t put the Mytherol capture scene in without including the first Nevarro trip.

I’ve put the Trandoshan scene back in so Dyn does come across as a decent bounty hunter. In the first act he successfully captures the child, shoots IG and sees off 2 Trandoshans. He then retrieves the child from the Client.
His only “failures” are being beaten by the mudhorn and being understandably pinned down by virtually the entire bounty hunter guild.

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#1362717
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hitfan said:

This sounds like a great idea. I haven’t watched the show, so if I watch this edit, I can let you know what I think.

Wow. It would be great to get the perspective of someone who hasn’t seen the show. I would still recommend watching the show because there is a lot of cool stuff that I haven’t been able to include.

jkimm said:

I wonder if it would flow better to cut Mando in the cockpit so that the first time we see him is stepping off the Razor Crest? I suppose you could include the shot of him from behind. It would add a little mystery to who is piloting the ship as it descends on the planet.

Actually I think I may go for a halfway house on this. I’ll cut the frontal cockpit shot and leave the shot from the rear. It’ll give the opening a real TPM vibe… similar space pan, shot of Mando from the rear, ship lands and a frontal Mando reveal.

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#1362690
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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szopman said:

smudger9 said:

Broom Kid said:

I think at this point, considering how well liked Rogue One is (and to a lesser degree, Solo) the argument can be made that “The Theatrical Star Wars Experience” can just cold-open after “A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Away…” now. Maybe it couldn’t have done that before, but it’s fairly accepted now, and honestly - it probably just works better here.

I’d suggest just cutting the crawl entirely. You don’t need it for a Star Wars movie to still feel like a Star Wars movie.

Solo also had an opening crawl. For me it’s a crucial part of a Star Wars theatrical experience. In terms of the font colour. I’ll be producing 2 versions… the pale Mando version and a classical yellow Star Wars version.

oh, sorry, I thought the yellow one is only for Episode VII version 😉

About Solo, there was a kind of opening crawl there, but not the classic one. Actually, I think it would work veeery well in the Mandalorian. And It would Save you a lot of work actually 😄

It would certainly save me work! These pan shots are very time consuming to construct!

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#1362657
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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Broom Kid said:

I think at this point, considering how well liked Rogue One is (and to a lesser degree, Solo) the argument can be made that “The Theatrical Star Wars Experience” can just cold-open after “A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Away…” now. Maybe it couldn’t have done that before, but it’s fairly accepted now, and honestly - it probably just works better here.

I’d suggest just cutting the crawl entirely. You don’t need it for a Star Wars movie to still feel like a Star Wars movie.

Solo also had an opening crawl. For me it’s a crucial part of a Star Wars theatrical experience. In terms of the font colour. I’ll be producing 2 versions… the pale Mando version and a classical yellow Star Wars version.

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#1362564
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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cavy8 said:

Wow, it’s so good to see you back. This edit looks incredible so far, can’t wait to see it finished!

Thanks! Great to be back. The hunger has returned!

So protect Arvala Opening has now been finished. Took a bit of time because I recreated the starfield around the iris transition, create the hyperspace exit and re-do the opening crawl. Then I couldn’t get the music to transition from the opening theme to the Arvala scene so I had to rebuild the sound mix and re-score it.

However, its now done so I’m back on track. The opening crawl doesn’t flow as well as I’d like so any suggestions would be much appreciated.

https://vimeo.com/438096328

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#1361990
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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WitchDR said:

Any updates on a final version yet? Super excited to check out the finished movie!

The project was basically finished and then I was persuaded to consider cutting the first trip to Nevarro, which actually works very well.

It means the movie now starts as the Mando approaches Arvala-7.

That has meant a bit more work to retain few lines of exposition from the cut scenes and add them into the other Nevarro scenes. That work is mostly completed.

The thing that has taken a bit of time is constructing a pan shot of the Razorcrest approaching Arvala-7. I’ve just cracked the visual pan, I now need to sort out the music transition

So I’m getting there. Completion might have to be pushed back to the start of August.

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#1360402
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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So, after discussion with @jkimm I’m exploring the idea of cutting out the first trip to Nevarro and starting on Arvala-7. However, there is still some exposition from the first Nevarro trip that I want to retain, particularly from the armourer scene.

Here is the first edited scene… the client… this is the first time Mando will meet the client.

Its only the centre audio channel at the moment to get an idea of how it flows.

https://vimeo.com/435292948

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#1360401
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Broom Kid said:

just a correction to the end titles preview: There’s no “h” in Jon Favreau. Also, the directors credits should probably be all on the same card instead of split over two.

Also, it’s a thing I see a lot around here, but I feel like aiming for a runtime for the sake of hitting the runtime instead of letting the runtime be whatever it is naturally when you feel the pacing is perfect is a practice that only makes sense when you’re a studio actively trying to squeeze out as many screenings as possible.

If you’re fan-editing, and it’s never going to be in a theater, there’s no real reason to aim for runtime benchmarks for the sake of nothing other than hitting the benchmarks. Usually this concern goes the other way (people refusing to cut a movie under a certain runtime because then it’ll be “too short” despite the fact “too short” doesn’t mean anything in the abstract like that) but if you feel like you had the pacing really solid a couple edits back and the only reason you pushed it to go shorter is just so you can say you pushed it shorter, I’d suggest maybe re-thinking that inclination and really giving that longer cut a rewatch to see if it really does just feel better at the prior length.

Anyway, I’m very glad to see you’re back to fanediting and I’m very much looking forward to seeing how this project turns out.

Thanks for the spelling Correction.

In terms of having a target runtime, the reason I use it as a guide is because I’m editing TV episodes into a movie. It gives an indication of whether there is too much or too little material to produce a movie. Over 2.5 hours suggests there is too much being crammed in, and 2 separate movies is a better option. Throughout this edit I felt I’ve been pushing things to put it into a single movie.

I agree the feel and pacing is more important, but in my experience sitting down to watch something over 2.5 hours is challenging, no matter how good it is!

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#1359298
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AbramPT said:

I’d also love a link for a test viewing!

I like the idea of the Mudhorn already waiting outside the cave. I’m at work so I’ve only seen the clip on my phone with no volume, but I wonder if it would make sense to flip the shot of the Mudhorn roaring. It seems to mess a little with the 180-degree rule as it doesn’t seem to be roaring at the Mando.

Thanks for the tip!

StarkillerAG said:

I’d like a link too, if you’re still sending them. If not, I can wait for the final release.

I have three volunteers already and I’m hoping that will be sufficient. Thanks for the offers.

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#1358838
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jkimm said:

Looks good but is there a particular reason why you didn’t have the Razor Crest jump to hyperspace before the credits? Here’s a rough version:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Slg79VVlnPngh1XhYUtnrtXZ_DUOhsgy/view?usp=sharing

A couple of reasons.

  1. I didn’t think that a blank space image made a good iris-out shot… it looked better with the Razorcrest in full view.

  2. Having the Razorcrest slowly moving through space fits with the long, slow journey ahead of them.