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Broom Kid said:

I think at this point, considering how well liked Rogue One is (and to a lesser degree, Solo) the argument can be made that “The Theatrical Star Wars Experience” can just cold-open after “A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Away…” now. Maybe it couldn’t have done that before, but it’s fairly accepted now, and honestly - it probably just works better here.

I’d suggest just cutting the crawl entirely. You don’t need it for a Star Wars movie to still feel like a Star Wars movie.

Solo also had an opening crawl. For me it’s a crucial part of a Star Wars theatrical experience. In terms of the font colour. I’ll be producing 2 versions… the pale Mando version and a classical yellow Star Wars version.

oh, sorry, I thought the yellow one is only for Episode VII version 😉

About Solo, there was a kind of opening crawl there, but not the classic one. Actually, I think it would work veeery well in the Mandalorian. And It would Save you a lot of work actually 😄

It would certainly save me work! These pan shots are very time consuming to construct!

Broom Kid said:

I think at this point, considering how well liked Rogue One is (and to a lesser degree, Solo) the argument can be made that “The Theatrical Star Wars Experience” can just cold-open after “A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Far Away…” now. Maybe it couldn’t have done that before, but it’s fairly accepted now, and honestly - it probably just works better here.

I’d suggest just cutting the crawl entirely. You don’t need it for a Star Wars movie to still feel like a Star Wars movie.

Solo also had an opening crawl. For me it’s a crucial part of a Star Wars theatrical experience. In terms of the font colour. I’ll be producing 2 versions… the pale Mando version and a classical yellow Star Wars version.

liambrazier said:

smudger9 said:

https://vimeo.com/438096328

Sorry, could you let us know the password to view? Loving what I’ve read on this edit thus far.

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cavy8 said:

Wow, it’s so good to see you back. This edit looks incredible so far, can’t wait to see it finished!

Thanks! Great to be back. The hunger has returned!

So protect Arvala Opening has now been finished. Took a bit of time because I recreated the starfield around the iris transition, create the hyperspace exit and re-do the opening crawl. Then I couldn’t get the music to transition from the opening theme to the Arvala scene so I had to rebuild the sound mix and re-score it.

However, its now done so I’m back on track. The opening crawl doesn’t flow as well as I’d like so any suggestions would be much appreciated.

https://vimeo.com/438096328

WitchDR said:

Any updates on a final version yet? Super excited to check out the finished movie!

The project was basically finished and then I was persuaded to consider cutting the first trip to Nevarro, which actually works very well.

It means the movie now starts as the Mando approaches Arvala-7.

That has meant a bit more work to retain few lines of exposition from the cut scenes and add them into the other Nevarro scenes. That work is mostly completed.

The thing that has taken a bit of time is constructing a pan shot of the Razorcrest approaching Arvala-7. I’ve just cracked the visual pan, I now need to sort out the music transition

So I’m getting there. Completion might have to be pushed back to the start of August.

So, after discussion with @jkimm I’m exploring the idea of cutting out the first trip to Nevarro and starting on Arvala-7. However, there is still some exposition from the first Nevarro trip that I want to retain, particularly from the armourer scene.

Here is the first edited scene… the client… this is the first time Mando will meet the client.

Its only the centre audio channel at the moment to get an idea of how it flows.

https://vimeo.com/435292948

Broom Kid said:

just a correction to the end titles preview: There’s no “h” in Jon Favreau. Also, the directors credits should probably be all on the same card instead of split over two.

Also, it’s a thing I see a lot around here, but I feel like aiming for a runtime for the sake of hitting the runtime instead of letting the runtime be whatever it is naturally when you feel the pacing is perfect is a practice that only makes sense when you’re a studio actively trying to squeeze out as many screenings as possible.

If you’re fan-editing, and it’s never going to be in a theater, there’s no real reason to aim for runtime benchmarks for the sake of nothing other than hitting the benchmarks. Usually this concern goes the other way (people refusing to cut a movie under a certain runtime because then it’ll be “too short” despite the fact “too short” doesn’t mean anything in the abstract like that) but if you feel like you had the pacing really solid a couple edits back and the only reason you pushed it to go shorter is just so you can say you pushed it shorter, I’d suggest maybe re-thinking that inclination and really giving that longer cut a rewatch to see if it really does just feel better at the prior length.

Anyway, I’m very glad to see you’re back to fanediting and I’m very much looking forward to seeing how this project turns out.

Thanks for the spelling Correction.

In terms of having a target runtime, the reason I use it as a guide is because I’m editing TV episodes into a movie. It gives an indication of whether there is too much or too little material to produce a movie. Over 2.5 hours suggests there is too much being crammed in, and 2 separate movies is a better option. Throughout this edit I felt I’ve been pushing things to put it into a single movie.

I agree the feel and pacing is more important, but in my experience sitting down to watch something over 2.5 hours is challenging, no matter how good it is!

In the final stages now. Feedback coming in from the test viewings and some minor adjustments being made.

Running time now down to 2:29:49… Finally made it under the magic 2h 30mins!

AbramPT said:

I’d also love a link for a test viewing!

I like the idea of the Mudhorn already waiting outside the cave. I’m at work so I’ve only seen the clip on my phone with no volume, but I wonder if it would make sense to flip the shot of the Mudhorn roaring. It seems to mess a little with the 180-degree rule as it doesn’t seem to be roaring at the Mando.

Thanks for the tip!

StarkillerAG said:

I’d like a link too, if you’re still sending them. If not, I can wait for the final release.

I have three volunteers already and I’m hoping that will be sufficient. Thanks for the offers.

I tried that originally. However it takes a lot of zoom to cut Mando out and that accentuates shaky cam.

I’m happy with the current cut. It’s certainly better than walking into the cave for no reason!

So here is my finished Mudhorn scene edit with the cave cut out. It works a lot better than the previous cut and removes the issue of the Mandalorian entering the cave for no apparent reason.

https://vimeo.com/433819754

So, I’m tinkering with a few scenes that I’m not 100% happy with. First up is the Mudhorn.

I’m trying to cut it together so that the Mudhorn is already out of the cave when Mando walks into the Valley. Here is a rough cut. Let me know what you think

https://vimeo.com/433644892

Episode 1 is done. I have DM’d the three users that were interested in a test viewing. The final version looks like being ready to go by the end of July!

jkimm said:

Looks good but is there a particular reason why you didn’t have the Razor Crest jump to hyperspace before the credits? Here’s a rough version:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Slg79VVlnPngh1XhYUtnrtXZ_DUOhsgy/view?usp=sharing

A couple of reasons.

1. I didn’t think that a blank space image made a good iris-out shot… it looked better with the Razorcrest in full view.

2. Having the Razorcrest slowly moving through space fits with the long, slow journey ahead of them.

The final piece in the jigsaw… the closing scene and iris-out to credits.

https://vimeo.com/433395764

Total running time weighing in at 2h 31mins.

I now just need to do a technical check of the audio channels and transcode a 720 version for a couple of test viewers.

BandobrasTuk said:

Since it should be in the classic Star Wars film-style: Will there be Star Wars end credits in typical blue writings and font? 😃

Of course!

jkimm said:

Cutting an entire series down to that time is very impressive. I’m glad you cut the baby yoda scene although others may be a little upset. 😄 Do you think the work print will be available to view soon?

And the nice thing is that despite all the cuts, it still has a lovely pace to it. The only slight issue is walking straight to the Mudhorn cave, but cutting the Jawas was a key thing to do for pacing. I’m going to try tinkering with that scene to see if I can add a small line of dialogue.

I’ve completed a full second watch- through and made most of the adjustments, so the first print should be ready for a couple of test viewers within a week. The only tasks remaining are a touch-up of the opening pan shot and changing the closing music.

jkimm said:

Everything has looked great so far. Just curious what the runtime is at this point?

2h 36mins

I was hoping to get it down to 2h 30mins but haven’t quite managed it. Mainly because its difficult to cut much out of the village episode without it feeling rushed.

I’ve also now removed the Baby yoda eating scene after your suggestion.
https://vimeo.com/431615493

BandobrasTuk said:

Excuse me for repeating myself: I’m so excited to see the whole movie!
This will probably be my ultimate Version of the Show. 😃

Thanks. Hopefully it will meet your expectations. I’m about to do a full watch-through to check that it all flows.

Final transition is completed. This moves from the village episode into Chapter 7. Chapters 5 and 6 have been completely cut apart from the space battle scene from chapter 5.

I’ve added the space battle because… its Star Wars and otherwise there is no space battle in the movie, and it adds another “close call”, which gives more weight to Mando’s decision to risk everything by returning to Nevarro.

https://vimeo.com/431208933

The rest of the IG reprogram flashback has been cut. There is sufficient exposition in the conversation between Mando and Kuill to cut it out.

Third chapter transition done. This also required a small segment of audio reconstruction, but not a tricky as the last transition. I also re-scored Mando’s exit from Nevarro, to give it a more tense “escape” feel, rather than the triumphant score from the series.

I’ve then immediately cut in the Mando-Baby Yoda scene from Chapter 6 because its a hyperspace scene and fits with the “escape” from Nevarro.

https://vimeo.com/429443881

Just the Chapter 4 to Chapter 7 transition left… this one is a bit more involved because I’m adding in the space battle scene from Chapter 5 to add weight to Mando’s decision to risk everything by heading back to Nevarro. Once that’s done it will hopefully just be some tinkering left and hopefully someone will volunteer for a test viewing!

Chase Adams said:

The rebuilding of the sound mix you have done here is outstanding! 😱

Thanks!

jkimm said:

The sound seems to be the trickiest part of editing this series and you’re nailing it.

Yes, and the audio mix is an absolute bitch.

The centre channel is rarely “clean”, all indoor scenes have dialogue “echo” throughout all the channels and the music mix is sometimes different in the centre channel compared to the other 4 channels.
I miss the Clone wars with its perfectly clear centre channel.

Further update.

Finally finished the transition between chapters 2 and 3.

This is (hopefully) the most difficult one - just 2 left now.

It required a complete rebuild of a 2-minute segment of the audio, then rescoring and then sorting out the transition into and out of the Kuill-IG reprogram scene.

Here is the 5 minute segment.

https://vimeo.com/428975097