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#1369517
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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jkimm said:

smudger9 said:

The end is near! Final cut has been reviewed. All that is left is the rendering… and maybe a trailer.

How’s the rendering coming along? 😃

You know how it is with editing. I was about to render and then found something else I wasn’t happy with 😂. I’m just tidying up the opening shot then I’m good to go.

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#1368303
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CMMAP said:

smudger9 said:

The end is near! Final cut has been reviewed. All that is left is the rendering… and maybe a trailer.

Here is the poster

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UGku3aqxoy--z2H8_nLUFXXTjNsq2i2S/view?usp=sharing

Great news smudger 😃
The poster is awesome, the stylistic choice appeals to me. Only the roman letter I feels strange. It is a good idea, but maybe it should look different, perhaps less opacity or incorporate the I into the title (got no idea for that unfortunately).

Yeah, I’m no artist! Couldn’t think of any other way to subtly get the episode number in there.

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#1368158
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liambrazier said:

smudger9 said:

The end is near! Final cut has been reviewed. All that is left is the rendering… and maybe a trailer.

Here is the poster

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UGku3aqxoy--z2H8_nLUFXXTjNsq2i2S/view?usp=sharing

Exciting! (says there’s no access on that poster link)

Should work now

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#1367182
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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jkimm said:

I’m listening on headphones so it might be amplified but the two little notes that fade with the hyperspace sound are what’s bugging me. It’s obviously not a big deal but if you’re able to fade them out more it might help. I can’t tell you how much I appreciate what you’ve done here. Really looking forward to seeing the final version.

I know the 2 notes you’re talking about. They don’t actually fade out, they lead into the end “blast” of the “You Are a Mandalorian” track. Its the end blast that fades into the blast of the end credits. If you want to listed to what I’m talking about its from the Chapter 1 soundtrack “You are a Mandalorian” from 2:30 onwards.
I’ve tried it without those 2 notes and decided the 2 note lead-in sounds better.

Here are the two different options (audio only)
https://youtu.be/yA9IhO-7pjU

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#1366943
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Broom Kid said:

The music transition IS really good.

Quick corrections: There’s no H in “Jon Favreau” and (I just looked this up) he didn’t direct any of the Mandalorian’s episodes. I knew he was the executive producer and the primary showrunner - but he never did direct any of the Mandalorian’s episodes.

Just checked the individual credits and you’re right about Favreau… I should know better than to trust Wookieepedia 😃

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#1366942
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jkimm said:

That transition works really well. I have a tiny nitpick with the music at 3:10 as the Razor Crest jumps into hyperspace. The timing sounds slightly off flowing into the credits. I can’t quite place it but it seems like the Mando music gets cut off a second too soon (or maybe needs to be extended a tiny bit).

The Mando music fades out to nothing underneath the blast of the end credits. Is it the Timing of the hyperspace noise that’s the problem? Pushing the end credits music any later creates a step.

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#1366880
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The penultimate piece in the jigsaw… the closing scene.
I’ve kept the Moff Gideon Scene out but have rescored it using a portion of “you are a Mandalorian”.
This provides an almost seamless music transition from the chapter 8 clip to the added chapter 3 clip and runs much better into the classical Star Wars music.

https://vimeo.com/444382218

just the opening crawl to go…

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#1366393
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liambrazier said:

You could always save the scene for near the start of the second-series-as-a-movie when it (hopefully) comes?

Or people who don’t want it could just press stop before the credits end.

I’m leaning towards leaving it as a post credits scene. It’s not long enough to be used as a “flashback” in Episode 2.

Had a productive holiday. Have my final list of minor corrections, and have also found a much better music extension for the final scene before the iris-out. Very much on track for an August release.

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#1365818
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JakeRyan17 said:

smudger9 said:

JakeRyan17 said:

smudger9 said:

Broom Kid said:

Cut Moff Gideon survival reveal scene and added as post credits scene.

doesn’t this sort of blow the whole “classic Star Wars” vibe you’re going for all by itself?

It seems sort of jarring to adhere so strongly to main saga convention and then make a Marvel gimmick the last thing anyone sees.

Not at all. It’s removal means that the end scene is Much more like a classical Star was movie with a long, music driven closing scene. I was originally intending to cut it completely. Putting it at the end is just a way of keeping it in the movie In some form. When I view it I’ll be ignoring it.

I would cut it completely or move it earlier. The post-credit scene is just too un-Star Wars. You could put it immediately after he crashes, or just not have it. To me, it’s nice to know the villain survived, which is pretty classic Star Wars. Just move it before the scene with the heroes and music swelling. Or let him pop up, miraculously surviving, in the next movie for season two without that scene.

I’d argue that it’s more “Star Wars” to not know whether the villain has survived or not… Darth Maul, Boba Fett, The Emperor

Moving it earlier just doesn’t work for the ending when you view it as a whole movie… it feels like the ending of a TV series.

All three of those examples are retcons. If you look at Darth Vader in A New Hope, Boba Fett and Vader in Empire Strikes Back, Sidious/Palpatine in Phantom Menace, Dooku and Palpatine in Attack of the Clones, Vader and Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith…

There was almost always a final shot of the villain ensuring we knew there was an ongoing threat just before the heroes reunited and had the hopeful look into the distance shot with swelling music before the circle-wipe transition to the credits.

There is, but it’s usually a subtle shot demonstrating the threat and never of a character that our heroes believe to be dead.

If we take EpI and EPIV those shots are extremely subtle. We’ve certainly never had a “Aha, I survived” shot at the end of a Star Wars movie.

When it comes down to it, we won’t know what will work best until season 2 is released, but my feeling is that not knowing Gideon is alive will play out better.

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#1365807
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JakeRyan17 said:

smudger9 said:

Broom Kid said:

Cut Moff Gideon survival reveal scene and added as post credits scene.

doesn’t this sort of blow the whole “classic Star Wars” vibe you’re going for all by itself?

It seems sort of jarring to adhere so strongly to main saga convention and then make a Marvel gimmick the last thing anyone sees.

Not at all. It’s removal means that the end scene is Much more like a classical Star was movie with a long, music driven closing scene. I was originally intending to cut it completely. Putting it at the end is just a way of keeping it in the movie In some form. When I view it I’ll be ignoring it.

I would cut it completely or move it earlier. The post-credit scene is just too un-Star Wars. You could put it immediately after he crashes, or just not have it. To me, it’s nice to know the villain survived, which is pretty classic Star Wars. Just move it before the scene with the heroes and music swelling. Or let him pop up, miraculously surviving, in the next movie for season two without that scene.

I’d argue that it’s more “Star Wars” to not know whether the villain has survived or not… Darth Maul, Boba Fett, The Emperor

Moving it earlier just doesn’t work for the ending when you view it as a whole movie… it feels like the ending of a TV series.

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#1365804
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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Broom Kid said:

Cut Moff Gideon survival reveal scene and added as post credits scene.

doesn’t this sort of blow the whole “classic Star Wars” vibe you’re going for all by itself?

It seems sort of jarring to adhere so strongly to main saga convention and then make a Marvel gimmick the last thing anyone sees.

Not at all. It’s removal means that the end scene is Much more like a classical Star was movie with a long, music driven closing scene. I was originally intending to cut it completely. Putting it at the end is just a way of keeping it in the movie In some form. When I view it I’ll be ignoring it.

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#1364206
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JakeRyan17 said:

Or:

Following the death of EMPEROR PALPATINE at the Battle of Endor, a power vacuum has plunged the galaxy into chaos. The IMPERIAL REMNANT have become war lords ruling over the splintered galaxy.

The newly-formed GALACTIC REPUBLIC has failed to bring any but the core systems to order, leaving the rest of the galaxy without hope of justice. Many have turned to BOUNTY HUNTERS to enforce being about order to the Outer Rim.

Commissioned by THE GUILD, bounty hunters are given an age and tracking beacons to the chain codes of targets. With the promise of a vast reward, a lone MANDALORIAN approaches the last known location of his prey…

Thanks for that, some great ideas.

But don’t forget that they normally get more than a target’s age…

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#1364186
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I wasn’t happy with the opening crawl, so I’ve been playing around with it. I’ve settled on this. Any comments?

Following the Battle of Endor the NEW REPUBLIC has restored peace to the core systems, but a power vacuum has plunged the outer rim into chaos.

IMPERIAL REMNANTS have formed in the shadows. They have taken control of distant worlds as they search for a mysterious asset that could return them to power.

Commissioned by the Bounty Hunter Guild and given only the asset’s age and the promise of a vast reward, a lone MANDALORIAN approaches its last known location…

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#1363988
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Sooooooo… its finished!!!

Just in time to render a HQ version to take on holiday with me next week and study the final product.

Should be set for an early August release.

Here is the final alterations list:

Classical Star Wars Opening Crawl and Pan sequence.

Chapter 1
Cut first 21 minutes of Chapter 1…. includes Mytherol bounty capture scene and all scenes on Nevarro.
Crawl pans to manufactured Razorcrest hyperspace exit merging into the approach to Arvala-7.
Arvala-7 approach re-scored using “Face to Face”.
Cut head-on shot of Mando in the cockpit to add impact to his “reveal” exit from the Razorcrest.
Trimmed Razorcrest exit sequence to speed up pacing.
Extended Mando/Kuill hut scene by reversing a shot of Kuill and adding in “you are a Mandalorian, your ancestors rode the great Mythosaur’. This line now cuts to Mando mounting and riding the Blurg.
Cut all but last 10 seconds of the ‘learning to ride Blurg’ scene.
Trimmed scene of IG getting shot as the CGI looks too animated.
Cut exchange between IG and Mando where IG runs a diagnostic.
Cut Mando shooting enemy as they enter the building.
Used a reversed shot to extend the pause between the blaster shot and IG falling to the ground.
Re-scored the child reveal using “Farewell” to give a more natural transition into the first scene of chapter 2.

Chapter 2
Rebuild sound mix to remove music from Trandoshan scene.
All Jawa scenes cut.
Transition straight from Trandoshan scene to Mando walking to Mudhorn valley.
Rescored transition using “The Hangar” and “The Egg".
Mudhorn scene re-cut so that Mudhorn is out of the cave as Mando walks into the valley.
Slo-motion edits when Mando is dazed have been cut.
Mudhorn scene cuts to scene where Mando is repairing himself and his armour.
Altered soundtrack of Mando repairing scene to transition better into the walking montage.
Transition to Kuill homestead scene.
Audio rebuilt to allow add in of discussion between Kuill and Mando about the child’s force ability (added from cut Jawa-related scene).
Cut child eating creature scene.
End of scene rescored using “Celebration”.
Transition from Kuill’s camp to Razorcrest.
Rebuilt audio of Mando leaving Arvala to allow a re-score of the scene - rescored with “Trashed Crest”.
Cut to Kuill-IG reprogram scene from Chapter 7. Audio rebuilt to remove Kuill narration and score extended using “Reprogram”. Reprogram scene upto the point where IG awakens is used, rest is cut.

Chapter 3
Added Razorcrest cockpit shot of hyperspace exit from chapter 6 and immediately cut to hyperspace exit shot from chapter 3.
Cut Grief Carga line “I don’t know if he wants to eat it or hang it on his wall, but he’s getting very ansy”.
Cut transition wipe as Mando walks through town.
When Mando meets the Client added “Beskar?” and “Go ahead, its real” from Chapter 1.
Added scene from Chapter 1 where Mando leaves the Client’s office including the line “the Beskar belongs back into the hands of a Mandalorian……”. Shots reused to hide the fact that Mando doesn’t have a beskar pauldron.
Rebuilt audio to allow smooth music transition to Mando walking back through town.
Added armourer lines from Chapter 1 “this is from the great purge… it is good it is back from the tribe”.
Cut Armourer “This would be in order for your station”.
Cut Mando “That would be a great honour”.
Insert Armourer/Mando “has your signet been revealed….not yet” from Chapter 1.
Cut Mando/Armourer exchange about whistling birds.
Cut whistling birds from the armour sequence.
Add Cantina patron scene from Chapter 1 to Cantina intro sequence.
Add Grief Carga/Mando exposition dialogue from Chapter 1…. referring to Bounty hunter guild using cuts from Chapter 3.
Cut section of stormtrooper search “We’ll flush him out”.
Cut scene where Mando is captured inside the client’s office and uses whistling birds.
Removed wipe before tracking fobs activate.
Shortened Grief Carga/Mando final confrontation scene to shorten the 2 excessive pauses.
Re-scored the Razorcrest escape using “Nightriders” to increase tension.
Cut the flying Mandalorian next to the Razorcrest.
Cut the Mando passing the ball to the child.
Added clip from Chapter 6 of “In cockpit hyperspace jump”.
Added clip from Chapter 6 of Mando handing the ball to the child so it now happens with the Razorcrest in hyperspace.
Moved Grief Carga survival scene to here to give a tense escape from Nevarro and to provide a bridge scene between the Razorcrest entering and exiting hyperspace.

Chapter 4
Added Hyperspace exit from Chapter 6.
Cut opening Raiders scene.
Cut line “I’m gonna need one more thing, give me those credits”.
Cut training montage.
Cut Cara line “I hope the plan worked”.
Trimmed AT-ST arrival scene to speed things up.
Cut Cara line “Its stopped”.
Cut Mando line “you got this”.
Cut the villager attack “its now or never” clip.
Cut child eating a frog scene.
Cut Mando “world travels fast”.
Recut Mando/villager kissing scene to show that Mando wants to stay and that he was about to let the villager remove his helmet until the gunshot.
Trim end scene to transition before dramatic music starts.

Chapter 5
Removed

Chapter 6
Removed

Chapter 7
Cut Grief Karga line “I guess we can call it even”.
Added in space battle scene from start of Chapter 5, but cut the severe engine damage from the sequence, removed Mando “that’s my line” and cut any image of Tatooine.
Cut down approach to Arvala-7.
Cut IG reprogram scene… first part edited and used between Chapters 2 and 3.
Kut Kuill “or whom I should serve”.
Cut Grief Karga “It appears introductions are in order. It appears we have both brought a security detail”.
Cut Grief Karga “I’m glad this matter will be put to test once and for all”.
Cut some sitting around the campfire.
Cut Grief Karga lines about the child being a carnivore and the Empire paying a King’s ransom.
Trimmed Bird attack scene.
Cut Grief Karga line “he’s trying to eat me”.
Cut Mando line to Kuill about engaging ground security protocols.
Trim Mando/Cara/Karga approach to biker scouts.
Move Mando reposte “on your wall” until after they are allowed passage through the checkpoint.
Cut Grief Karga “go with it”.
Cut First Kuill on Blurg clip.
Cut Client “libation” line.
Cut Client line “we all will be quiet”.
Cut Cara “you said 4” line.
Cut Client line “Currently it is sleeping” and Gideon line “you might want to check again” so that when the client says he has the child he is immediately shot.
Cut third Kuill on Blurg clip so that the Gideon arrival scene is uninterrupted.
Trim Kuill v Biker scout death clips just to reveal Kuill lying on the ground

Chapter 8
Cut entire Biker Scout scene.
Cut Mando Line “I’m out of charges”.
Cut Gideon proposal. Now plays out as though Gideon thinks the child is there.
Trim scene of IG coming through the town.
Cut Mando asking Cara to leave him.
Cut intro shot of Flametrooper.
Cut Mando saying he’s not going to make it.
Cut the Mando/IG “get it over with” exchange.
Trim searching in the sewers scene.
Cut Mando line “you go, I can’t leave it like this”.
Cut first part of flashback scene.
Cut Mando “you wish me to train this thing”.
Cut armourer “it is too weak, it would die”.
Add in “I was once a foundling…… I know” lines from Chapter 1.
Cut Cara line about an escape plan.
Cut dialogue where Armourer gives Mando directions to the lava river.
Cut Mando line about staying.
Remove transition wipes either side of armourer v stormtroopers scene.
Cut Grief Karga line “There’s the larva river”.
Remove wipe as boat travels along larva river.
Cut Mando Line “That supersedes your manufacturer’s protocol… right”.
Cut IG-88 line “This is correct”.
Cut Mando line “Grab a blaster and help us shoot our way out”.
Cut Mando line “No, we need you”.
Cut IG Line “There is nothing to be sad about, I’ve never been alone”.
Cut Mando line “I’m not sad”.
Cut IG Line “yes you are, I’m a nurse droid. I’ve analysed your voice”.
Added Razorcrest entering space clip from Chapter 3 to extend exit sequence.
Used Score from Chapter 3 to merge into Star Wars theme for the classical “Iris Out” transition to credits.
Cut Moff Gideon survival reveal scene and added as post credits scene.

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#1363434
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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Completion draws ever nearer. All changes required to start the film on Arvala have now been completed. I just need to fine tune a few things in the final act and it’s good to go. It should be completed by the end of next week, just in time for me to do a couple a full viewings on holiday and then start rendering.

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#1363049
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JakeRyan17 said:

StarkillerAG said:

I know, but he’s already planning to include an “Episode 7” version for sequel haters, so I don’t see why one extra version would be a problem.

But if I was on a desert island and I could only have one version, I would probably prefer an opening crawl. The first half of the first episode has been cut in this version, so it’s the only way the plot could make sense without all that exposition.

Some of that exposition could be added back to when Dyn is bringing back The Child, seeing as in the series he was revisiting locations. Might be messy though. A lot of that early exposition is unnecessary, as it’s repeated later.

The first (successful) mission being lost might be required to add back in to show that he’s a good bounty hunter (since his mission to retrieve the Child is full of failures and I believe the Tattooine adventure was cut). That would be the only thing I could think of to add back in if the crawl was cut.

You can’t put the Mytherol capture scene in without including the first Nevarro trip.

I’ve put the Trandoshan scene back in so Dyn does come across as a decent bounty hunter. In the first act he successfully captures the child, shoots IG and sees off 2 Trandoshans. He then retrieves the child from the Client.
His only “failures” are being beaten by the mudhorn and being understandably pinned down by virtually the entire bounty hunter guild.